| Mandleson sacked 11:02 - Sep 11 with 1902 views | SitfcB |
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| Mandleson sacked on 11:36 - Sep 11 with 472 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:30 - Sep 11 by bartyg |
Don't think this take is "it", I'm afraid. His close association with Epstein was known and should have barred him from any public office |
"Because he was well-known and liked among some people who Trump mixed with, and the UK Government was willing to try anything to keep Trump inside over Ukraine, and amenable to a favourable Trade Deal" is the more plausible reason.
Although, now, being "well- known and liked among some people who Trump mixed with" is proving a whole lot more icky than Starmer may have anticipated. |  | | |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:38 - Sep 11 with 445 views | jas0999 |
Ten days in to the new parliamentary year and it’s been a tough one for Starmer. This sacking should have happened yesterday, rather than the public backing Starmer gave Mandlson - despite the latter publicly stating there would be more embarrassing revelations!
Suspect the questions about what Starmer knew about this will not go away anytime soon. | | | |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:42 - Sep 11 with 416 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:19 - Sep 11 by Mullet |
Because he’s an incredibly shrewd political brain. And very polarising with people who love him and hate him in equal measure. But the main reason was he was known to Trump and could work with him.
The fact it’s blown up is telling. |
As someone who has worked in those FCDO circles, sadly there are appointments made that prioritise certain elements of a persons background, who they know etc.
It’s done all over the world to ensure British relations overseas move as smoothly as possible.
Mandleson was seen as a schmoozer who could help us with Trump. That’s why he was there, nothing more.
The evidence we’ve seen come out in the last few weeks wasn’t known at appointment and the emails weren’t known until even yesterday, but would have been suspected, but that’s not enough to not put him in post. |  | | |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:50 - Sep 11 with 368 views | WeWereZombies |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:35 - Sep 11 by bartyg |
Not sure we can be held responsible for Trump being elected? |
Did I say we were ? I was comparing political cultures as a way of showing up the de jure failings and de facto 'needs must' of political appointments. This whole thread is an interesting read and perhaps the only conclusion that we can draw is that there are no easy answers. There do seem to be some uneasy ones though... [Post edited 11 Sep 13:51]
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| Mandleson sacked on 12:34 - Sep 11 with 296 views | NthQldITFC |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:09 - Sep 11 by Dubtractor |
Labour really are making an almighty pigs ear of this, aren't they?
Bloody hell. |
Bidenesque, ffs. |  |
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| Mandleson sacked on 12:37 - Sep 11 with 289 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Is it perhaps a good day to bury good news. |  |
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| Mandleson sacked on 12:41 - Sep 11 with 278 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:42 - Sep 11 by ElderGrizzly |
As someone who has worked in those FCDO circles, sadly there are appointments made that prioritise certain elements of a persons background, who they know etc.
It’s done all over the world to ensure British relations overseas move as smoothly as possible.
Mandleson was seen as a schmoozer who could help us with Trump. That’s why he was there, nothing more.
The evidence we’ve seen come out in the last few weeks wasn’t known at appointment and the emails weren’t known until even yesterday, but would have been suspected, but that’s not enough to not put him in post. |
Starmer doesn’t come out of this very well. He is a ditherer, reminds me of Cameron. As you say the information wasn’t available when the appointment was made. Nothing more has really come to light since Starmer earlier backed his appointment, should have been sacked before today. |  |
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| Mandleson sacked on 13:09 - Sep 11 with 223 views | BasingstokeBlue |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:08 - Sep 11 by bluejacko |
Oh dear it seems if Starmer has full confidence in you yesterday you are sacked today😂twice now isn’t it. |
Just like when a football club's board proclaims their "full confidence" in the manager! |  |
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| Mandleson sacked on 13:23 - Sep 11 with 177 views | Keno |
2005 called and wants it’s headline back |  |
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| Mandleson sacked on 13:31 - Sep 11 with 162 views | Mullet |
| Mandleson sacked on 11:30 - Sep 11 by bartyg |
Don't think this take is "it", I'm afraid. His close association with Epstein was known and should have barred him from any public office |
Someone asked why, not my opinion - they’re very different things |  |
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