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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. 15:56 - Oct 13 with 4369 viewsITFC_Forever

Simply that their pitch couldn’t handle a few hours of rain.

It was 12 hours of rain, or a rainy day as it’s known.

It wasn’t even several days of persistent rain.

And they’re moaning they have to replay the game. Should count themselves lucky we weren’t awarded a 3-0 win for failing to provide an adequate playing surface.



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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 16:10 - Oct 13 with 4173 viewsDJR

I thought it was nothing to do with the river anyway, given the downward slope at the side of the pitch is much steeper and higher than at Portman Road. But that only made me think that, with an adequate drainage system, the rain shouldn't have been an issue.

They also didn't have people on the pitch at half-time prodding the pitch as they do at Portman Road, and took an awfully long time after the players had gone off to bring into use the only pitchfork that they seemed to possess.
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 16:32 - Oct 13 with 3981 viewsBent_double

Fair play to him for holding his hands up and telling the truth - makes a change in this day and age!

Might not make it to 45 years at the club though

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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 16:33 - Oct 13 with 3965 viewsexeterblue10

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 16:10 - Oct 13 by DJR

I thought it was nothing to do with the river anyway, given the downward slope at the side of the pitch is much steeper and higher than at Portman Road. But that only made me think that, with an adequate drainage system, the rain shouldn't have been an issue.

They also didn't have people on the pitch at half-time prodding the pitch as they do at Portman Road, and took an awfully long time after the players had gone off to bring into use the only pitchfork that they seemed to possess.
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Ten thousand holes in Blackburn, Lancashire but none in the pitch.
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 17:00 - Oct 13 with 3723 viewskeighleyblue

Brave guy for making this public.
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 17:11 - Oct 13 with 3655 viewsSheffordBlue

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 17:00 - Oct 13 by keighleyblue

Brave guy for making this public.


With it being an interview filmed and organised by the club I guess it was a PR decision rather than his and they could have edited it once it had been recorded. If the club hiearchy didn't want this to be the message then I don't think this would have gone out.

It's also only a few years ago that if we'd had the same volume of rain in the same time frame our pitch would have really struggled to cope .
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 18:02 - Oct 13 with 3371 viewsSwansea_Blue

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 16:10 - Oct 13 by DJR

I thought it was nothing to do with the river anyway, given the downward slope at the side of the pitch is much steeper and higher than at Portman Road. But that only made me think that, with an adequate drainage system, the rain shouldn't have been an issue.

They also didn't have people on the pitch at half-time prodding the pitch as they do at Portman Road, and took an awfully long time after the players had gone off to bring into use the only pitchfork that they seemed to possess.
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I think that’s extremely unfair to Blackburn. They own six forks and we saw them all

I assumed it was just a bad pitch and the water should be able to drain due to it being elevated (as shown by that gulley around it). Someone did make a valid point at the time that the drains could have backed up if all the drainage was feeding into a swollen river. But we now know that wasn’t the issue. I think the groundsman in that clip is underplaying how bad their pitch is (not surprisingly). That other pitches in the area saw games completed and all the talk about trying to get holes in it suggests the drainage system is b*ggered (the correct technical term, def info).

I’m surprised about the 3” of rain claim too. We had very little rain driving up and walked to the ground without getting wet. It was only through the match it started to get heavy. Maybe it had tipped it down overnight.

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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 18:24 - Oct 13 with 3253 viewsChurchman

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 18:02 - Oct 13 by Swansea_Blue

I think that’s extremely unfair to Blackburn. They own six forks and we saw them all

I assumed it was just a bad pitch and the water should be able to drain due to it being elevated (as shown by that gulley around it). Someone did make a valid point at the time that the drains could have backed up if all the drainage was feeding into a swollen river. But we now know that wasn’t the issue. I think the groundsman in that clip is underplaying how bad their pitch is (not surprisingly). That other pitches in the area saw games completed and all the talk about trying to get holes in it suggests the drainage system is b*ggered (the correct technical term, def info).

I’m surprised about the 3” of rain claim too. We had very little rain driving up and walked to the ground without getting wet. It was only through the match it started to get heavy. Maybe it had tipped it down overnight.


It looks to me like they haven’t invested in their pitch and ground in years. That means they have had financial advantage over other clubs that have made improvements.

As far as I’m concerned that’s a 3-0 win awarded to us plus costs to the club, ticket and travel to the ITFC supporters plus £500 each compo for a wasted day. A 40 point deduction for the season along with compulsory sorting their pitch out for the start of next season or another 40 point deduction.

Oh, and Blackburn itself to be raised to the ground by Christmas 2026 because it’s horrible. That’d give them something to moan about.

Sounds fair to me!
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 18:27 - Oct 13 with 3254 viewsJeremiahBrown

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25539231.blackburn-rovers-address-ip
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 20:34 - Oct 13 with 2824 viewsEdwardStone

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 18:24 - Oct 13 by Churchman

It looks to me like they haven’t invested in their pitch and ground in years. That means they have had financial advantage over other clubs that have made improvements.

As far as I’m concerned that’s a 3-0 win awarded to us plus costs to the club, ticket and travel to the ITFC supporters plus £500 each compo for a wasted day. A 40 point deduction for the season along with compulsory sorting their pitch out for the start of next season or another 40 point deduction.

Oh, and Blackburn itself to be raised to the ground by Christmas 2026 because it’s horrible. That’d give them something to moan about.

Sounds fair to me!


Always important to be fair and not vindictive in these cases

Your thoughts seem balanced and proportionate to my unbiased eyes
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 21:00 - Oct 13 with 2735 viewsChurchman

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 20:34 - Oct 13 by EdwardStone

Always important to be fair and not vindictive in these cases

Your thoughts seem balanced and proportionate to my unbiased eyes


Absolutely. It’s always best to take a thoughtful, calm, even handed views on matters and come to balanced, fair conclusions.

Always worked for me 😀😄😂😅🤣.
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 08:19 - Oct 14 with 2177 viewsIH_KGF

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 16:32 - Oct 13 by Bent_double

Fair play to him for holding his hands up and telling the truth - makes a change in this day and age!

Might not make it to 45 years at the club though


He's probably told them a million times that work is required, and he's probably been ignored a million times.
So thought fck it. thrown them under the bus
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 09:01 - Oct 14 with 2054 viewsDJR

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 18:02 - Oct 13 by Swansea_Blue

I think that’s extremely unfair to Blackburn. They own six forks and we saw them all

I assumed it was just a bad pitch and the water should be able to drain due to it being elevated (as shown by that gulley around it). Someone did make a valid point at the time that the drains could have backed up if all the drainage was feeding into a swollen river. But we now know that wasn’t the issue. I think the groundsman in that clip is underplaying how bad their pitch is (not surprisingly). That other pitches in the area saw games completed and all the talk about trying to get holes in it suggests the drainage system is b*ggered (the correct technical term, def info).

I’m surprised about the 3” of rain claim too. We had very little rain driving up and walked to the ground without getting wet. It was only through the match it started to get heavy. Maybe it had tipped it down overnight.


Only one of the forks had four spikes, and that came out only after the others.

It was a last desperate throw of the dice.
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 09:04 - Oct 14 with 2047 viewsTractor_Boy333

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 16:10 - Oct 13 by DJR

I thought it was nothing to do with the river anyway, given the downward slope at the side of the pitch is much steeper and higher than at Portman Road. But that only made me think that, with an adequate drainage system, the rain shouldn't have been an issue.

They also didn't have people on the pitch at half-time prodding the pitch as they do at Portman Road, and took an awfully long time after the players had gone off to bring into use the only pitchfork that they seemed to possess.
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No doubt that Blackburn were happy with the pitch the way I it was at Halftime. It was levelling things up why did they want to do anything about it until the game was stopped.

The Blackburn fans didn’t take it well after the match saying how can anyone do anything about the river bursting its banks…I won’t hold my breath for their apologies 🤣
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 13:25 - Oct 14 with 1648 viewsstonojnr

He's a groundsman not a geologist maybe he should look into water tables before declaring it had absolutely nothing to do with the river. Here's a hint though where do you think all the rain was draining too...
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 14:24 - Oct 14 with 1513 viewsLeoMuff

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 13:25 - Oct 14 by stonojnr

He's a groundsman not a geologist maybe he should look into water tables before declaring it had absolutely nothing to do with the river. Here's a hint though where do you think all the rain was draining too...


How do you he hasn’t studied geology?

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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 11:16 - Oct 15 with 1097 viewsAbujaBlue

And yet the whole pitch argument is one conveniently ignored by all of the faux outrage about the unfairness of it all for poor old plucky Blackburn having 3 points snatched from then. Henry Winter's one-sided superficial coverage of it being a prime example.

Good to see some Blackburn fans acknowledging that it's not due to 'whiny McKenna' that the game was replayed, but because of deep-seated issues and a lack of investment at their club. The Lancashire Telegraph is happy to highlight this.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25539231.blackburn-rovers-address-ip
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 12:33 - Oct 15 with 968 viewsAlpineBlue

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 13:25 - Oct 14 by stonojnr

He's a groundsman not a geologist maybe he should look into water tables before declaring it had absolutely nothing to do with the river. Here's a hint though where do you think all the rain was draining too...


It wasn't draining. That's why the game was called off.
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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 15:30 - Oct 15 with 749 viewsWeWereZombies

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 09:01 - Oct 14 by DJR

Only one of the forks had four spikes, and that came out only after the others.

It was a last desperate throw of the dice.


So spikes but were all the other parts of the forks present ? Especially the fork handles...

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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 07:13 - Oct 16 with 534 viewsYou_Bloo_Right

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 15:30 - Oct 15 by WeWereZombies

So spikes but were all the other parts of the forks present ? Especially the fork handles...


Floodlight failure too?

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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 07:30 - Oct 16 with 508 viewsgainsboroughblue

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 11:16 - Oct 15 by AbujaBlue

And yet the whole pitch argument is one conveniently ignored by all of the faux outrage about the unfairness of it all for poor old plucky Blackburn having 3 points snatched from then. Henry Winter's one-sided superficial coverage of it being a prime example.

Good to see some Blackburn fans acknowledging that it's not due to 'whiny McKenna' that the game was replayed, but because of deep-seated issues and a lack of investment at their club. The Lancashire Telegraph is happy to highlight this.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25539231.blackburn-rovers-address-ip
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Given they've been banned by the club from entering the ground, they've probably lost sympathy with them too.

An absolute farce truth be told and as a club, we took a very unfair battering from a lot of reactionary types over the affair.

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Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 09:35 - Oct 16 with 361 viewsWeWereZombies

Rovers groundsman confirmed it was nothing to do with the river…. on 07:13 - Oct 16 by You_Bloo_Right

Floodlight failure too?


AI tells me 'The total candela output of a floodlight fixture is a result of its total lumen output and its beam angle. For example, 800 lumens in a 5° hotspot would be about 135,200 candela.'

So fork handles would describe the likely effort that Blackburn's owners put into pitch drainage and also the lighting...

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