| So tragic on 10:19 - Oct 16 with 2238 views | Bluemike31 |
Terribly sad for anyone to get that low in life, a tragic end for sure. |  | |  |
| So tragic on 10:22 - Oct 16 with 2210 views | IH_KGF |
Thoughts also to the poor person that has found him, and will live with that vision for the rest of their own life.
Horrible situation all round. |  | | |
| So tragic on 10:23 - Oct 16 with 2205 views | Pinewoodblue |
Everyone has spoken about what a great guy he was but it is sad there was no one he felt able to turn to in his moment of need. |  |
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| So tragic on 10:25 - Oct 16 with 2186 views | mellowblue |
| So tragic on 10:23 - Oct 16 by Pinewoodblue |
Everyone has spoken about what a great guy he was but it is sad there was no one he felt able to turn to in his moment of need. |
I would hope there was, but probably the despair outweighs the need to talk. Just wanted to end the pain. Poor guy. | | | |
| So tragic on 10:51 - Oct 16 with 2102 views | Pippin1970 |
My best friend found his dad hung years ago. He never talked about it and years later effected his mental health. He's great now but talking important etc. The stigma for men not doing it. Great boxer and guy too | | | |
| So tragic on 11:13 - Oct 16 with 2023 views | Mullet |
News was all around the community about an hour or so after he was found. My colleague told me that afternoon.
Mental health provision and breaking down stigma can only do so much I guess. |  |
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| So tragic on 11:29 - Oct 16 with 1910 views | FromReuserWithLove |
So sad. Ricky was one of the good guys too and we're quickly running out of those. |  | | |
| So tragic on 13:00 - Oct 16 with 1678 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
Tragic.
Probably my favourite fighter alongside Big Frank. Just always seemed like such a lovely guy. Really endeared himself to the fans because of it. A proper hero in my eyes a s hell of a fighter.
RIP Ricky. True legend |  |
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| So tragic on 13:15 - Oct 16 with 1610 views | stonojnr |
| So tragic on 10:25 - Oct 16 by mellowblue |
I would hope there was, but probably the despair outweighs the need to talk. Just wanted to end the pain. Poor guy. |
With mental health & depression its not so much about whether Ricky wanted to talk about it or not, and i suspect he almost certainly wanted to, but didnt know who. It's really whether anyone wanted to talk to him and i dont want to say then empower him to talk because that sounds very trite in the circumstances.
But people open up the moment you give them that secure link point for them,the its ok not to be ok conversation, the check in on your friends piece, theyre not just catchy slogans, those videos football clubs are increasingly producing about mental health its all about getting people to talk to one another, to support each other.
Because very few people who are suffering with their mental health will just offer it up by themselves and infact they go out of their way to hide the anguish they're feeling and give the pretence everything is fine. Which is why so many times with news reports on suicides you get the family, friends, neighbours always saying but they seemed totally fine, were looking forward to doing something in the future, and its a complete shock to them. | | | |
| So tragic on 13:40 - Oct 16 with 1525 views | mattyboar |
| So tragic on 13:15 - Oct 16 by stonojnr |
With mental health & depression its not so much about whether Ricky wanted to talk about it or not, and i suspect he almost certainly wanted to, but didnt know who. It's really whether anyone wanted to talk to him and i dont want to say then empower him to talk because that sounds very trite in the circumstances.
But people open up the moment you give them that secure link point for them,the its ok not to be ok conversation, the check in on your friends piece, theyre not just catchy slogans, those videos football clubs are increasingly producing about mental health its all about getting people to talk to one another, to support each other.
Because very few people who are suffering with their mental health will just offer it up by themselves and infact they go out of their way to hide the anguish they're feeling and give the pretence everything is fine. Which is why so many times with news reports on suicides you get the family, friends, neighbours always saying but they seemed totally fine, were looking forward to doing something in the future, and its a complete shock to them. |
Everything you've written really resonates with me.
I went through a long period of struggling with mental health, but I kept it hidden behind a façade. So much so that when I spoke about it openly for the first time (during my wedding speech) the room was in audible shock. I wasn’t looking for sympathy. I just hoped that maybe one person in that room who needed to hear it would feel encouraged to speak up or reach out.
I shared my journey, which only my wife had known about until that moment, and talked about the importance of opening up. It was also aimed as a reminder to those in attendance that even the happiest-looking person might be carrying something heavy inside and thinking of doing the unspeakable.
If you're going through something, please don’t wait. Talk to someone - a friend, partner, family member, colleague. You don’t need to have the perfect words. Just start the conversation. It can make all the difference.
The above was also a hospital pass to my best man, whose speech was to follow! As an aside, I am happy, healthy and still married to the same wonderful lady. | | | |
| So tragic on 13:47 - Oct 16 with 1488 views | lambo77 |
| So tragic on 13:40 - Oct 16 by mattyboar |
Everything you've written really resonates with me.
I went through a long period of struggling with mental health, but I kept it hidden behind a façade. So much so that when I spoke about it openly for the first time (during my wedding speech) the room was in audible shock. I wasn’t looking for sympathy. I just hoped that maybe one person in that room who needed to hear it would feel encouraged to speak up or reach out.
I shared my journey, which only my wife had known about until that moment, and talked about the importance of opening up. It was also aimed as a reminder to those in attendance that even the happiest-looking person might be carrying something heavy inside and thinking of doing the unspeakable.
If you're going through something, please don’t wait. Talk to someone - a friend, partner, family member, colleague. You don’t need to have the perfect words. Just start the conversation. It can make all the difference.
The above was also a hospital pass to my best man, whose speech was to follow! As an aside, I am happy, healthy and still married to the same wonderful lady. |
well done mate | | | |
| So tragic on 14:00 - Oct 16 with 1413 views | Benters |
Poor bloke. |  |
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| So tragic on 14:56 - Oct 16 with 1291 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| So tragic on 13:40 - Oct 16 by mattyboar |
Everything you've written really resonates with me.
I went through a long period of struggling with mental health, but I kept it hidden behind a façade. So much so that when I spoke about it openly for the first time (during my wedding speech) the room was in audible shock. I wasn’t looking for sympathy. I just hoped that maybe one person in that room who needed to hear it would feel encouraged to speak up or reach out.
I shared my journey, which only my wife had known about until that moment, and talked about the importance of opening up. It was also aimed as a reminder to those in attendance that even the happiest-looking person might be carrying something heavy inside and thinking of doing the unspeakable.
If you're going through something, please don’t wait. Talk to someone - a friend, partner, family member, colleague. You don’t need to have the perfect words. Just start the conversation. It can make all the difference.
The above was also a hospital pass to my best man, whose speech was to follow! As an aside, I am happy, healthy and still married to the same wonderful lady. |
Well done.
One of the things I love about this place is that you can always find support and understanding here. Sometime opening up to people around you can be hard and I think its great that we have a community here where we can do that without judgement and usually find words of advice and support. These moments can make a big difference | |
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| So tragic on 15:07 - Oct 16 with 1257 views | mattyboar |
| So tragic on 14:56 - Oct 16 by BlueandTruesince82 |
Well done.
One of the things I love about this place is that you can always find support and understanding here. Sometime opening up to people around you can be hard and I think its great that we have a community here where we can do that without judgement and usually find words of advice and support. These moments can make a big difference |
I should have added TWTD to my options of who to speak to! I know I've reached out to people on here who appear troubled, or in need of a chat, so its certainly a very valuable resource for many of us.
Despite some of the arguments and topics, it is a great community to be part of, even if only virtually for most of us. | | | |
| So tragic on 15:51 - Oct 16 with 1166 views | mellowblue |
| So tragic on 13:15 - Oct 16 by stonojnr |
With mental health & depression its not so much about whether Ricky wanted to talk about it or not, and i suspect he almost certainly wanted to, but didnt know who. It's really whether anyone wanted to talk to him and i dont want to say then empower him to talk because that sounds very trite in the circumstances.
But people open up the moment you give them that secure link point for them,the its ok not to be ok conversation, the check in on your friends piece, theyre not just catchy slogans, those videos football clubs are increasingly producing about mental health its all about getting people to talk to one another, to support each other.
Because very few people who are suffering with their mental health will just offer it up by themselves and infact they go out of their way to hide the anguish they're feeling and give the pretence everything is fine. Which is why so many times with news reports on suicides you get the family, friends, neighbours always saying but they seemed totally fine, were looking forward to doing something in the future, and its a complete shock to them. |
Hatton had a long history of depression so I suspect he knew the drill and I believe he had had good support in the past. maybe it just got too much. When he announced his come back I wondered at the time whether this was to give him the buzz to mask whatever problems he faced. Many sportsmen have faced mental issues post-retirement. | | | |
| So tragic on 15:52 - Oct 16 with 1162 views | Blue_Uprising |
Not necessarily saying this is the case here. But worryingly and sadly there is a very significant link between athletes that take their own lives and CTE brain injuries. In some studies up to 40% had as yet undiagnosed CTE. It shows that lots of contact sports really need to have greater support for retired athletes. Hopefully they can develop more accurate predictors of issues and find interventions that work. The statements, for example from some of the impacted rugby players about how daily life has been impacted, are harrowing. |  | | |
| So tragic on 15:54 - Oct 16 with 1154 views | mellowblue |
| So tragic on 13:40 - Oct 16 by mattyboar |
Everything you've written really resonates with me.
I went through a long period of struggling with mental health, but I kept it hidden behind a façade. So much so that when I spoke about it openly for the first time (during my wedding speech) the room was in audible shock. I wasn’t looking for sympathy. I just hoped that maybe one person in that room who needed to hear it would feel encouraged to speak up or reach out.
I shared my journey, which only my wife had known about until that moment, and talked about the importance of opening up. It was also aimed as a reminder to those in attendance that even the happiest-looking person might be carrying something heavy inside and thinking of doing the unspeakable.
If you're going through something, please don’t wait. Talk to someone - a friend, partner, family member, colleague. You don’t need to have the perfect words. Just start the conversation. It can make all the difference.
The above was also a hospital pass to my best man, whose speech was to follow! As an aside, I am happy, healthy and still married to the same wonderful lady. |
brave fellow, well done. I can imagine the looks on guest's faces ! Glad it has worked out well for you and your wife. | | | |
| So tragic on 16:55 - Oct 16 with 988 views | gsoly |
| So tragic on 13:15 - Oct 16 by stonojnr |
With mental health & depression its not so much about whether Ricky wanted to talk about it or not, and i suspect he almost certainly wanted to, but didnt know who. It's really whether anyone wanted to talk to him and i dont want to say then empower him to talk because that sounds very trite in the circumstances.
But people open up the moment you give them that secure link point for them,the its ok not to be ok conversation, the check in on your friends piece, theyre not just catchy slogans, those videos football clubs are increasingly producing about mental health its all about getting people to talk to one another, to support each other.
Because very few people who are suffering with their mental health will just offer it up by themselves and infact they go out of their way to hide the anguish they're feeling and give the pretence everything is fine. Which is why so many times with news reports on suicides you get the family, friends, neighbours always saying but they seemed totally fine, were looking forward to doing something in the future, and its a complete shock to them. |
Fine words.
I know he’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but this post from Stan Collymore today has stuck with me.
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| So tragic on 17:23 - Oct 16 with 933 views | ArnoldMoorhen |
Just a gentle reminder to everyone that National Print Media used to follow a code of practice that methods of suicide are not reported, as it is proven to be epidemiological and copycatting does happen.
While it is good that mental health, and men's mental health in particular, are no longer taboo subjects, it isn't a good thing for anyone to discuss methods of suicide.
On this Forum I see the beginning of your post under the heading, which means the method of suicide is viewable accidentally by those who wouldn't want to read about it. [Post edited 16 Oct 17:29]
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| So tragic on 17:39 - Oct 16 with 898 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
| So tragic on 17:23 - Oct 16 by ArnoldMoorhen |
Just a gentle reminder to everyone that National Print Media used to follow a code of practice that methods of suicide are not reported, as it is proven to be epidemiological and copycatting does happen.
While it is good that mental health, and men's mental health in particular, are no longer taboo subjects, it isn't a good thing for anyone to discuss methods of suicide.
On this Forum I see the beginning of your post under the heading, which means the method of suicide is viewable accidentally by those who wouldn't want to read about it. [Post edited 16 Oct 17:29]
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This is an extremely important comment you've made that I will reiterate.
The OP is clearly not trying to be provocative or knowingly enabling anyone to take their own life, but research has proven that people can be and have been moved to action on their suicide ideation, if they read about methods of ending their life.
Please, please do talk about mental health issues and definitely tell someone if you are feeling suicidal, but please, please don't discuss methods people have used on this forum, as you don't know the impact it might have on someone reading it.
And to anyone reading this message, I am always happy to DM anyone who needs someone to talk to. The world is a better place with you in it. |  |
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| So tragic on 18:34 - Oct 16 with 765 views | PhilTWTD |
| So tragic on 17:39 - Oct 16 by Hugoagogo_Reborn |
This is an extremely important comment you've made that I will reiterate.
The OP is clearly not trying to be provocative or knowingly enabling anyone to take their own life, but research has proven that people can be and have been moved to action on their suicide ideation, if they read about methods of ending their life.
Please, please do talk about mental health issues and definitely tell someone if you are feeling suicidal, but please, please don't discuss methods people have used on this forum, as you don't know the impact it might have on someone reading it.
And to anyone reading this message, I am always happy to DM anyone who needs someone to talk to. The world is a better place with you in it. |
Noted and OP amended. |  | | |
| So tragic on 19:09 - Oct 16 with 700 views | FrimleyBlue |
| So tragic on 18:34 - Oct 16 by PhilTWTD |
Noted and OP amended. |
Phil, Appreciate this is entirely upto you and Gav
But how about a tab at the top next to shop with a link to MIND, Samaritans etc.
Just something that someone may see when logging on and not in the best state. |  |
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