| Are we simply a poor side? 18:48 - Oct 22 with 2105 views | skinnybob72 |
Been wondering for a while if the simple truth is that we are a poor side.
Did we as a fanbase hide behind the 'gap is too big' excuse in the PL because us, Leicester & Southampton were all toiling? Did we fail to notice that perhaps we were just rubbish?
The 3 that went up have all made a decent start and the 3 of us that came down are all still toiling. After last night the 3 teams that came up from L1 have collectively won more games than the 3 of us that were relegated.
If you ignore the price tags of the players we have signed, and the form they showed at other clubs, can we honestly say they make a better TEAM than we had 2 years ago? I think that no is the answer to that. We lost just 6 games in the Championship 2 seasons ago - we have lost 3 already this season and but for 2 stoppage time penalties and an abandonment we would have lost 6!
Football moves on, you cannot keep the same players forever, so harping on about Woolfy & Burgess et al doesn't help - so we must hope that KM and the players can turn things around fairly quickly or we could be looking over our shoulders rather than looking up. |  | | |  |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 18:55 - Oct 22 with 2044 views | BouncebackIpswich |
Good manager, good player quality, extremely poor and confused recruitment strategy and execution is hampering the first two, it will come good but it may come at the cost of this season being a success. |  | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 18:57 - Oct 22 with 2037 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Overall we recruited fairly poorly with the level of spend and I think without the major hit on the Delap signing, we might have be right there with Southampton. There was a bit of a false notion we were much more competitive than Leicester last year, we were not.
This year has been much more disappointing so far though, the odds were always stacked against us in the PL but we still don't seem to stabilized our squad into cohesive units IMO. A tone of talent is here though so we still have chance to right the ship if we can figure a few things out. [Post edited 22 Oct 18:58]
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 18:59 - Oct 22 with 2007 views | SomethingBlue |
The word "poor" needs banning permanently from our fanbase, it has lost every semblance of meaning. | |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:04 - Oct 22 with 1932 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 18:59 - Oct 22 by SomethingBlue |
The word "poor" needs banning permanently from our fanbase, it has lost every semblance of meaning. |
How else would you describe 2025? Good? | |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:06 - Oct 22 with 1913 views | SomethingBlue |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:04 - Oct 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
How else would you describe 2025? Good? |
No. But I would not call us a poor side. | |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:11 - Oct 22 with 1870 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:06 - Oct 22 by SomethingBlue |
No. But I would not call us a poor side. |
Agree but it's been a poor year, with quite a few poor performances, so it's ok to use it when appropriate I guess. | |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:17 - Oct 22 with 1824 views | SomethingBlue |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:11 - Oct 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Agree but it's been a poor year, with quite a few poor performances, so it's ok to use it when appropriate I guess. |
When appropriate, definitely, but it's lost all currency. | |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:17 - Oct 22 with 1820 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:17 - Oct 22 by SomethingBlue |
When appropriate, definitely, but it's lost all currency. |
Same as folks calling our attack "great". | |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:20 - Oct 22 with 1791 views | skinnybob72 |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:06 - Oct 22 by SomethingBlue |
No. But I would not call us a poor side. |
If not 'poor', how would you describe a side that won just 4 from 38 last season - finishing 16 points from safety - have won just 3 from 10 this season and exited the LC to a L2 side? | | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:24 - Oct 22 with 1747 views | Scuzzer |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:04 - Oct 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
How else would you describe 2025? Good? |
Disappointing |  |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:39 - Oct 22 with 1671 views | itfcsuth |
At the moment yes, that’s the reality - whether we can develop into a good side with this group of players as is, I have my doubts. As I said yesterday, the rebuild already needs a renovation.
It ultimately goes back to our recruitment strategy over the past 18 months, the intentions I’m sure were to take us forward but it’s quite remarkable just how far it has taken us backwards - we demolished a mansion and built a bungalow. |  | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 13:28 - Oct 23 with 1296 views | ArnieM |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:24 - Oct 22 by Scuzzer |
Disappointing |
Not good enough? |  |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 13:39 - Oct 23 with 1242 views | BlueForYou |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:04 - Oct 22 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
How else would you describe 2025? Good? |
Average side with a barely competent defence. |  | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 13:49 - Oct 23 with 1211 views | TractorJack |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:06 - Oct 22 by SomethingBlue |
No. But I would not call us a poor side. |
Don't understand why you'd try and describe it in one word. |  | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 14:18 - Oct 23 with 1136 views | Jermynblue |
It depends what you mean by poor. In 2023/24 we achieved 96 points and played good quality football in achieving that outcome. Now, ten games into the 2025/26 season back in the same division we are achieving 1.3 points a game, on course for around 60 points for the season based on that points per game and the football is less attractive to watch. Personally, I think that we will achieve in the region of 65-75 points this season based on what I have seen so far, which would mean an improvement in the remaining part of the season compared to the first ten games. However, this is a decline compared to what was achieved in 2023/24. There have been quite significant changes to the team and based on the money we had available to spend it would be natural to think that we should be doing better than we are. Ultimately, whether this team is poor will be decided by the end of the season based on what they achieve - but the early signs are not encouraging. There have been may issues, but four points have been noticeable for me. Firstly, our passing game is weak with too many players not comfortable on the ball, able to a pass or being in the right places to receive the pass as the move develops. Secondly, our pressing as a team is very poor and also our defensive positioning - this is a concern as some of the transfers made were to make us more defensively solid perhaps at the sacrifice of attacking plan. Thirdly, I don't think the players have the same mentality to find the way to win - many have not actually enjoyed success in their careers. Finally, we are making a lot of individual errors and this number needs to reduce. I would like to think that this team has the potential to improve but as more games go by I become more concerned that this might not be the case. | | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 15:33 - Oct 23 with 1017 views | mellowblue |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:06 - Oct 22 by SomethingBlue |
No. But I would not call us a poor side. |
of course not, they've got loads of money. oh... I see what you mean | | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 15:35 - Oct 23 with 1000 views | Trequartista |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 19:20 - Oct 22 by skinnybob72 |
If not 'poor', how would you describe a side that won just 4 from 38 last season - finishing 16 points from safety - have won just 3 from 10 this season and exited the LC to a L2 side? |
pisspoor |  |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 17:53 - Oct 23 with 829 views | braveblue |
Brentford, Wolves, Forest, West Ham all
Much poorer than last season. Makes a big difference. | | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 09:56 - Oct 24 with 598 views | Wickets |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 18:59 - Oct 22 by SomethingBlue |
The word "poor" needs banning permanently from our fanbase, it has lost every semblance of meaning. |
Well winning 3 games out of 10 with no away win is not great Bud . I suppose expectation has been risen through the media expecting us to walk the league has not helped but without going overboard we have not been good enough think everybody can agree on that . |  | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 10:28 - Oct 24 with 523 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 09:56 - Oct 24 by Wickets |
Well winning 3 games out of 10 with no away win is not great Bud . I suppose expectation has been risen through the media expecting us to walk the league has not helped but without going overboard we have not been good enough think everybody can agree on that . |
Saw one of those end of season table predictions earlier this week, think it The Sun.
They predicted we would end up 14th, or was it 15th, with 56 points losing 18 games. No surprise Norwich were predicted to be relegated but was surprised they had Sheffield United ending up in 7th place.
The truth iis where we end the season will depend on McKenna sorting out his priorities.if he gets it right we gain promotion, if he doesn’t he and the club part company. |  |
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 10:39 - Oct 24 with 506 views | football |
Not a poor side and recruitment has been generally good. There have been some poor performances mind, but on paper the side is not poor, in fact its probably the best in the Championship. Now, Norwich is a poor side | | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 10:42 - Oct 24 with 489 views | Bluemike31 |
Maybe drop "poor" and replace it with "Inept". | | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 12:54 - Oct 24 with 421 views | TownieRob |
I think we are currently 'average'. Based on that, I do think the recruitment has been 'poor' due the the fact that spending as much money as we have should not result in being an average Championship side. | | | |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 13:20 - Oct 24 with 361 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 18:55 - Oct 22 by BouncebackIpswich |
Good manager, good player quality, extremely poor and confused recruitment strategy and execution is hampering the first two, it will come good but it may come at the cost of this season being a success. |
This is where I am at tbh.
I have full faith in Mckenna and the idea of sacking him is crazy talk.
I have serious concerns with our recruitment. It seems very random, very disorganised, very expensive as well, more than it needed to be in my opinion. Starting to et worried with that department especially after the Prem recruitment as well. [Post edited 24 Oct 13:21]
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| Are we simply a poor side? on 13:37 - Oct 24 with 286 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Are we simply a poor side? on 18:55 - Oct 22 by BouncebackIpswich |
Good manager, good player quality, extremely poor and confused recruitment strategy and execution is hampering the first two, it will come good but it may come at the cost of this season being a success. |
I think this is spot on.
I'd say we are unlikely to go up this season, which leads to another issue, unrealistic fan expectations.
I did giggle in the summer reading people's views on here... "HMS piss the league" etc.. was never going to be that easy after losing the spine of our team.
Patience is key, KMc is the man, the squad will come good, but it won't happen overnight. |  |
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