| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? 22:37 - Nov 4 with 2011 views | ITFC_Forever |
Down by the Cobbold / North corner? |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:39 - Nov 4 with 1987 views | buoyant |
The ref, who up until about 60mins had a decent enough game, bottled it! |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:40 - Nov 4 with 1969 views | Herbivore |
Ref let them get away with a lot all night. He completely bottled that one. |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:41 - Nov 4 with 1950 views | BlueDouglas |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:39 - Nov 4 by buoyant |
The ref, who up until about 60mins had a decent enough game, bottled it! |
Thought to the ref was terrible. No authority right from the start which suited Watford. |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:43 - Nov 4 with 1908 views | Garv |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:40 - Nov 4 by Herbivore |
Ref let them get away with a lot all night. He completely bottled that one. |
He let us do the same at times. |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:43 - Nov 4 with 1913 views | skinnybob72 |
His first yellow was never a booking, a second for that one would have been very harsh. If he had not already been booked he would likely have received a yellow for it. |  | | |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:46 - Nov 4 with 1882 views | Rozz |
Reaction made it look worse, but I did call for it at the time.
He let a pull-back go early on and kept his card in his pocket, then had set a precedent. I normally like a ref that lets the game flow, but if that's "flow" then I'd rather have the free kicks please. |  | | |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:47 - Nov 4 with 1840 views | Herbivore |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:43 - Nov 4 by Garv |
He let us do the same at times. |
At times is doing some heavy lifting there. He let them get away with a lot of sh!thousing and generally kicking lumps out of us, thought he was poor. | |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:59 - Nov 4 with 1697 views | ITFC_Forever |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:43 - Nov 4 by skinnybob72 |
His first yellow was never a booking, a second for that one would have been very harsh. If he had not already been booked he would likely have received a yellow for it. |
Shouldn’t make any difference if a player has already been booked. | |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 23:17 - Nov 4 with 1566 views | homer_123 |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:43 - Nov 4 by skinnybob72 |
His first yellow was never a booking, a second for that one would have been very harsh. If he had not already been booked he would likely have received a yellow for it. |
His first yellow, I suspect, was more a culmination of fouls that had come before. |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 23:28 - Nov 4 with 1504 views | ReusersTown |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:59 - Nov 4 by ITFC_Forever |
Shouldn’t make any difference if a player has already been booked. |
The second one wasn't either tbf, doesn't really make a challenge, runs into Furlong. | | | |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 01:08 - Nov 5 with 1366 views | Garv |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:47 - Nov 4 by Herbivore |
At times is doing some heavy lifting there. He let them get away with a lot of sh!thousing and generally kicking lumps out of us, thought he was poor. |
Not for me. Maybe the yellows started to come a little later than they should, but overall it was refreshing to see a game managed like that. Not every tackle or 50/50 is a foul and not every foul is a yellow card no matter how much the home crowd tell you it is.
Also don't think the time wasting was that bad relatively speaking, although he definitely should have enforced the 8 second rule at one point. | |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 01:34 - Nov 5 with 1302 views | Matt_Netherlands |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:41 - Nov 4 by BlueDouglas |
Thought to the ref was terrible. No authority right from the start which suited Watford. |
I would actually argue that letting the game flow and setting a higher bar for what he deemed was as foul worthy of stopping play, showed a lot of authority and proper game management. |  | | |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 07:14 - Nov 5 with 1064 views | Blue_In_Boston |
Because when you see it in slow motion it is debatable if he even makes contact. Player and crowd all reacted to what they thought was going to happen as he came charging in, not to what actually happened. | | | |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 07:57 - Nov 5 with 957 views | Steve_M |
I thought the ref was poor, he wanted to let the game flow which is admirable, but as a result ended up being unduly lenient to Watford and their many cynical fouls.
The most obvious of second yellow cards that one, he just took a massive swipe at Furlong. |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 07:57 - Nov 5 with 955 views | Herbivore |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 01:08 - Nov 5 by Garv |
Not for me. Maybe the yellows started to come a little later than they should, but overall it was refreshing to see a game managed like that. Not every tackle or 50/50 is a foul and not every foul is a yellow card no matter how much the home crowd tell you it is.
Also don't think the time wasting was that bad relatively speaking, although he definitely should have enforced the 8 second rule at one point. |
No offence, Garv, but I find it hard to give your views of refereeing too much credit when you tried to claim that it wasn't a nailed on pen at home to Leicester last season when Chappers got clattered. Football is indeed a contact sport but it's not rugby. | |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 08:21 - Nov 5 with 867 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 01:08 - Nov 5 by Garv |
Not for me. Maybe the yellows started to come a little later than they should, but overall it was refreshing to see a game managed like that. Not every tackle or 50/50 is a foul and not every foul is a yellow card no matter how much the home crowd tell you it is.
Also don't think the time wasting was that bad relatively speaking, although he definitely should have enforced the 8 second rule at one point. |
Context is the thing that is important here. How many fouls did their #5 make when we were breaking in the first half. As fouls in their own right they were not that bad, but the impact on the attacking team was massively significant. I dont know the rules, but if it isn't a rule that if you foul on purpose to stop an attack happening it is a card, then it should be. | | | |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 08:23 - Nov 5 with 854 views | Herbivore |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 08:21 - Nov 5 by Exiled2Surrey |
Context is the thing that is important here. How many fouls did their #5 make when we were breaking in the first half. As fouls in their own right they were not that bad, but the impact on the attacking team was massively significant. I dont know the rules, but if it isn't a rule that if you foul on purpose to stop an attack happening it is a card, then it should be. |
Their number 10 similarly made several cynical fouls throughout the game and somehow got through 90 minutes without a yellow. If you don't punish a team for committing cynical fouls they'll continue to do it. I'm not sure I agree that the game flowed, the ref let a lot go but that just encouraged more foul play and there were periods of the game that were very stop start. | |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 08:30 - Nov 5 with 834 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 08:23 - Nov 5 by Herbivore |
Their number 10 similarly made several cynical fouls throughout the game and somehow got through 90 minutes without a yellow. If you don't punish a team for committing cynical fouls they'll continue to do it. I'm not sure I agree that the game flowed, the ref let a lot go but that just encouraged more foul play and there were periods of the game that were very stop start. |
There were times when the game was a bit basketball-like - which was fun but not particularly structured.
On the deliberate fouling point, two things from rugby that I quite like in this regard:
1. totting up - 4 or 5 cynical fouls to prevent an attacking team scoring and the last perpetrator of a foul gets to put their feet up for ten minutes - doesnt even matter if it is the worst offence. this is great because it prevents the team sharing out the fouls
2. deliberate knock-forward - preventing an attacking move by foul play - go straight to the bin for 10
Clearly not going to happen, but it does at least mean that the attackers are favoured rather than the team that is trying to shut down the game | | | |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 08:31 - Nov 5 with 833 views | thorpedo |
I was right near it and the noise was sickening. I thought Furlong had broken his leg but it must've been his shinpad. I thought possibly a straight red - certainly a yellow (I haven't seen it back since though). Ref was too slow getting his cards out and Watofrd got away with a lot. They time wasted so much in the added 7 minutes that I felt sure there would be a t least another two minutes added to that - but no - he blew uop exactly on 97. |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 09:39 - Nov 5 with 745 views | rickw |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 08:31 - Nov 5 by thorpedo |
I was right near it and the noise was sickening. I thought Furlong had broken his leg but it must've been his shinpad. I thought possibly a straight red - certainly a yellow (I haven't seen it back since though). Ref was too slow getting his cards out and Watofrd got away with a lot. They time wasted so much in the added 7 minutes that I felt sure there would be a t least another two minutes added to that - but no - he blew uop exactly on 97. |
From my angle I thought it was one of those challenges somewhere between a yellow and red so was amazed the player got nothing for it!
First half they stopped several of our promising attacks with tactical fouls - usually a team will get away with the first one of these but the ref let them get away with 4-5 before he finally booked one of them - which I think was for Baah |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 09:44 - Nov 5 with 735 views | MrPotatoHead |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 22:43 - Nov 4 by skinnybob72 |
His first yellow was never a booking, a second for that one would have been very harsh. If he had not already been booked he would likely have received a yellow for it. |
I agree with that. I don't really want to see players being sent off for 2 tackles like that, he only got the 1st yellow because his team mates had totted up a few before him and got away with it. On the face of it getting 1 yellow from those 2 tackles is probably fair. The game had some needle which was good to see, but I'll always defend a ref who lets that break out a little bit and tries to keep 22 players on the pitch. Nobody crossed a line, people complain of the game going too soft and then call out refs for not waving their cards around more. They can't win. |  | | |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 09:45 - Nov 5 with 730 views | bluelagos |
Fiik |  |
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| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 09:57 - Nov 5 with 702 views | DJR |
| How the hell was that not a second yellow for Baah? on 07:14 - Nov 5 by Blue_In_Boston |
Because when you see it in slow motion it is debatable if he even makes contact. Player and crowd all reacted to what they thought was going to happen as he came charging in, not to what actually happened. |
I could hear the impact of the challenge in the upper north, so difficult to argue there wasn't any contact. |  | | |
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