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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get 16:46 - Nov 19 with 1715 viewshype313

a 6 point deduction.

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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 16:51 - Nov 19 with 1655 viewsNthsuffolkblue

That's not going to be enough to help nodge if it is true.

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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 16:55 - Nov 19 with 1626 viewsCaptainAhab

Excellent news, well done FL for making a stand and hitting them were it hurts.
I know a lot of people were cynical and thought they'd never have the balls to really go after these cheats, but this should finally put paid to that nonsense and provide a huge deterrent for anyone thinking of gaming the system in the future.


Oh sorry I thought you said 60 points.
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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:37 - Nov 19 with 1241 viewsBent_double

Who's Stefan Borson? Someone who might be itk, or is he just guessing like everyone else?

I would say a minimum of 12 points, anything less would be a travesty.

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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:40 - Nov 19 with 1214 viewsbluefunk

Is that from the PL, EFL or both??
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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:44 - Nov 19 with 1199 viewsSheffordBlue

Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:40 - Nov 19 by bluefunk

Is that from the PL, EFL or both??


The PL case is being heard. After the decision on that the EFL will decide if they want to take their own case forward. Well that's how I understand it anyway!

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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:49 - Nov 19 with 1164 viewsBasingstokeBlue

Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 16:51 - Nov 19 by Nthsuffolkblue

That's not going to be enough to help nodge if it is true.



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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:52 - Nov 19 with 1144 viewsExiled2Surrey

Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:44 - Nov 19 by SheffordBlue

The PL case is being heard. After the decision on that the EFL will decide if they want to take their own case forward. Well that's how I understand it anyway!


Listening to the discussion, it is just the EPL, and his estimate is based on comparison to previous premier league fines (Forest etc).

The view I heard previously was that it is EFL who are particularly fed up with Leicester given how they basically stuck two fingers up at them, and while Borson might be strictly speaking correct that the EFL have a decision to make once the PL have done their business, I cant see them saying "yeah, thats enough, you have learned your lesson and are unlikely to do it again"...
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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:57 - Nov 19 with 1111 viewsmellowblue

Not exactly a deterrent.
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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 19:20 - Nov 19 with 966 viewsNthQldITFC

Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:57 - Nov 19 by mellowblue

Not exactly a deterrent.


Agreed. It's a pathetic 'carry on cheating' pass if true.

The game will always be corrupt until cheats get chucked out forcefully.

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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 19:46 - Nov 19 with 807 viewsHighgateBlue

This is a prediction. Plenty of people who are reasonably well qualified in different aspects of football make predictions all the time. Many of them are well wide of the mark.

Let's not treat this as someone who's in the know about something that's actually happened as a matter of fact.

He sets out his reasoning, and he may be right. One factor that I'm not sure he's considered (and I hope it's a point that has been raised in argument) relates to the difference between the EPL and the EFL. In the EPL, there are fewer teams, fewer matches, and hence a points deduction of X points has potentially more impact. So merely looking at previous deductions for EPL teams as a guide is not (in my view) an entirely fair measure.

But yeah, those wanting sanctions that are of an entirely different order of magnitude than previous decisions are likely to be disappointed.

I hate this kind of rule-breaking, and I would like to see it punished more stringently as a deterrent. However, PSR rules are supposed to be about ensuring 'sustainability'. It would be ironic if clubs are overspending because they can well afford to, but then get such a harsh penalty for doing so that they get relegated, are crippled by their huge wage bill and end up in administration. Whilst you might argue that the punishment would fit the crime, the rules meant to ensure sustainability would have done the exact opposite.
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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 20:24 - Nov 19 with 648 viewsArnieM

And they wonder why the game is going down the pan the way it is. Its rotten from the core outwards....

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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 20:27 - Nov 19 with 631 viewsbournemouthblue

Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 18:37 - Nov 19 by Bent_double

Who's Stefan Borson? Someone who might be itk, or is he just guessing like everyone else?

I would say a minimum of 12 points, anything less would be a travesty.


Unless the logic is they would halve it on appeal?

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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 20:32 - Nov 19 with 617 viewsSuffolkPunchFC

It’s all speculation for now. Points deduction, fine and transfer ban have all been ‘suggested’ in the last 24hrs. I believe the hearing and likely decision for the first offence is next week, so now there loads of ‘experts’ giving their ‘considered’ opinion on the outcome.
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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 22:32 - Nov 19 with 259 viewsSwansea_Blue

Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 16:55 - Nov 19 by CaptainAhab

Excellent news, well done FL for making a stand and hitting them were it hurts.
I know a lot of people were cynical and thought they'd never have the balls to really go after these cheats, but this should finally put paid to that nonsense and provide a huge deterrent for anyone thinking of gaming the system in the future.


Oh sorry I thought you said 60 points.


I felt my outrage-ometre climbing quickly for a second there. If it ends up as a 6 point deduction it’s not much disincentive at all is it? You’d claw that back through a couple of crap refereeing performances.

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Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 23:33 - Nov 19 with 128 viewsNthsuffolkblue

Stefan Borson claiming Leicester will probably get on 20:27 - Nov 19 by bournemouthblue

Unless the logic is they would halve it on appeal?


In which case deduct 24 points so that halving it on appeal still makes it 12!

To be honest, there ought to be clear rules with clear sanctions but it appears a right mess really.

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