| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 18:35 - Nov 22 with 3353 views | jasondozzell |
These types of games happen.
Far too much knee jerk overreaction.
Fairly sanguine. Controlled the game. Should have won. Move on.
Squad players need confidence not moans. Chuba wasn't as bad as many saying. Some good things in there and good touch at times. Unsurprisingly still adapting to new surroundings.
Even the boos at the end were embarrassed.
Everyone's been spoilt. Home draw in November isn't a crisis.
Onto the next one.
For me it's meh and onto Hull. [Post edited 22 Nov 18:40]
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| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 18:35 - Nov 23 with 588 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 18:34 - Nov 23 by waveneyblue |
I can but its no point in arguing with a stuck record like you.
So i wont bother thanks all the same |
Great effort. |  |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 18:56 - Nov 23 with 560 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 16:22 - Nov 23 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
“That’s the opposite of how it works”
You’re really not very bright are you.
Maybe look at how many clubs that have filled the automatic spots over the last decade have been parachute clubs. Clue, it’s quite a lot. Do you think that has any financial correlation? |
You're being obtuse. Of course there's a correlation. But it's not the only factor and one of many.
Otherwise there would be no reason to play the fixtures.
We're 6 points off those autos by the way with a game in hand. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 18:58 - Nov 23 with 552 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 18:56 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
You're being obtuse. Of course there's a correlation. But it's not the only factor and one of many.
Otherwise there would be no reason to play the fixtures.
We're 6 points off those autos by the way with a game in hand. |
You just said it works the opposite, I can’t keep up. | |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 19:00 - Nov 23 with 539 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 18:58 - Nov 23 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
You just said it works the opposite, I can’t keep up. |
We'll we'd better sack the manager then because we're 6 points off the spot the financial spreadsheet says we should be in. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 19:57 - Nov 23 with 489 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 19:00 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
We'll we'd better sack the manager then because we're 6 points off the spot the financial spreadsheet says we should be in. |
You’ve really excelled in this thread! | |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 19:58 - Nov 23 with 485 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 19:57 - Nov 23 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
You’ve really excelled in this thread! |
Are you going to tell KM he's lost his job or should I do it? | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:03 - Nov 23 with 479 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 19:58 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Are you going to tell KM he's lost his job or should I do it? |
This thread is a new level of stupid for you!
I’ve never once called for his job, just challenged your ridiculous everything is always great notion and your stupid comparisons that have nothing to do either each other two seasons later. Oh and that the money and success in football are opposites comment.
You’ve not once rebuffed any actual individual points because you can’t you’ve just changed the subject with random sentences about where we are off the top. | |
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| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:11 - Nov 23 with 468 views | itfcsuth |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 11:22 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
If we finish in the play offs we finish in the play offs and we'll have a good chance of winning them.
You can't just say 'i demand we are top two all season and if we're not I'm kicking off'
KM is at great pains to explain where we are every week and I'd say his analysis is worth more everyone else's put together! |
The play offs are a lottery, we’ll have a 25% chance of winning, just like everybody else. If we finish in the play offs, particularly if we stumble in as per our performances currently would indicate, you wouldn’t go in with confidence, and it would be reflective of a poor season.
I don’t think anyone is particularly kicking off, but to be frustrated with our performance levels, our lack of cohesion and results I would argue is merited.
Whilst I think KMc speaks so well, and is a top top manager, regardless of what his press conferences say, he is naturally and rightly going to look at the positive spins, but fans have eyes, and can also make their own conclusions.
To think we are anything where we would want to be, need to be and should be in this moment is delusional, and to try and spin it any other way I’m afraid is blind lunacy. |  | | |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:17 - Nov 23 with 463 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:03 - Nov 23 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
This thread is a new level of stupid for you!
I’ve never once called for his job, just challenged your ridiculous everything is always great notion and your stupid comparisons that have nothing to do either each other two seasons later. Oh and that the money and success in football are opposites comment.
You’ve not once rebuffed any actual individual points because you can’t you’ve just changed the subject with random sentences about where we are off the top. |
Everything isn't always great! That's my point!
It's football. It's not a Hollywood movie.
We're going to finish top 6 and you know that. I am pretty confident we'll be very happy with where in that top 6 we finish.
What are you individual points?
I'm not saying this team is the same as the 23/24 team. It's a different team. But constantly worrying about having spent money and not being top of the league just seems pretty pointless.
If your thought process was 'we've spent decent cash on players so if we're not top of the league from start to finish it's a disaster ' then you were guaranteed to be disappointed.
If we're not calling for KM's head then let's just let him crack on. The board is insane - we're in 'Mick in/out' argument territory a third of the way through the season within touching distance of the autos! Everyone's lost their minds. | | | |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:23 - Nov 23 with 456 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:11 - Nov 23 by itfcsuth |
The play offs are a lottery, we’ll have a 25% chance of winning, just like everybody else. If we finish in the play offs, particularly if we stumble in as per our performances currently would indicate, you wouldn’t go in with confidence, and it would be reflective of a poor season.
I don’t think anyone is particularly kicking off, but to be frustrated with our performance levels, our lack of cohesion and results I would argue is merited.
Whilst I think KMc speaks so well, and is a top top manager, regardless of what his press conferences say, he is naturally and rightly going to look at the positive spins, but fans have eyes, and can also make their own conclusions.
To think we are anything where we would want to be, need to be and should be in this moment is delusional, and to try and spin it any other way I’m afraid is blind lunacy. |
We've been inconsistent and we're still finding ourselves. That's pretty much what you would expect from a new team and squad that has been together for weeks. KM has been at pains to explain that.
All that matters is where we are at the end of the season. Are we trending the right way? Yes.
Relax! | | | |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:39 - Nov 23 with 444 views | itfcsuth |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:23 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
We've been inconsistent and we're still finding ourselves. That's pretty much what you would expect from a new team and squad that has been together for weeks. KM has been at pains to explain that.
All that matters is where we are at the end of the season. Are we trending the right way? Yes.
Relax! |
How long do we need to give it for this group to find itself then, given they’ve been together months now, not weeks, half the group have been together over 12 months now.
Interesting that you think we are trending in the right way, given we don’t know our best eleven, and can’t string 2/3 strong performances back to back together.
Just a reminder that this group was built for £125m+ to replace a record breaking Championship side, and yet we are currently 8th in the Championship 13 points off the pace setters, that doesn’t feel like we are trending in the right direction to me. | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 21:04 - Nov 23 with 422 views | SWLondonBlue93 |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:17 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Everything isn't always great! That's my point!
It's football. It's not a Hollywood movie.
We're going to finish top 6 and you know that. I am pretty confident we'll be very happy with where in that top 6 we finish.
What are you individual points?
I'm not saying this team is the same as the 23/24 team. It's a different team. But constantly worrying about having spent money and not being top of the league just seems pretty pointless.
If your thought process was 'we've spent decent cash on players so if we're not top of the league from start to finish it's a disaster ' then you were guaranteed to be disappointed.
If we're not calling for KM's head then let's just let him crack on. The board is insane - we're in 'Mick in/out' argument territory a third of the way through the season within touching distance of the autos! Everyone's lost their minds. |
We're not in "Mick In/Out territory". Almost nobody is calling for McKenna to go. In fact there are more people making this completely bogus claim than calling for a change of manager. People need to stop creating imaginary situations to get annoyed at. |  | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 21:12 - Nov 23 with 416 views | jasondozzell |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 21:04 - Nov 23 by SWLondonBlue93 |
We're not in "Mick In/Out territory". Almost nobody is calling for McKenna to go. In fact there are more people making this completely bogus claim than calling for a change of manager. People need to stop creating imaginary situations to get annoyed at. |
I meant Mick In/Out in terms of the antagonism on here during those years | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 21:15 - Nov 23 with 411 views | jas0999 |
It’s really not comparable. We have spent tens of millions on players, are paying a manager a lot of money this time round. How is Stoke away relevant to failing to beat Derby, Watford, Charlton and Wrexham at home- with our spend almost as much as theirs combined? Really poor excuses for a season which frankly isn’t good enough. A manager with no plan b. If we look at away games how about Bristol and Middlesboro- teams we beat last time out… we are WORSE than last time. No doubt. | | | |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 23:53 - Nov 23 with 365 views | reusersfreekicks |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 19:07 - Nov 22 by jasondozzell |
By how many points clear at the top of the table would you say we have to be in November for you to be satisfied? |
Maybe higher than 8th and playing well.
Give the uppers a rest |  | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 00:00 - Nov 24 with 362 views | reusersfreekicks |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:17 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Everything isn't always great! That's my point!
It's football. It's not a Hollywood movie.
We're going to finish top 6 and you know that. I am pretty confident we'll be very happy with where in that top 6 we finish.
What are you individual points?
I'm not saying this team is the same as the 23/24 team. It's a different team. But constantly worrying about having spent money and not being top of the league just seems pretty pointless.
If your thought process was 'we've spent decent cash on players so if we're not top of the league from start to finish it's a disaster ' then you were guaranteed to be disappointed.
If we're not calling for KM's head then let's just let him crack on. The board is insane - we're in 'Mick in/out' argument territory a third of the way through the season within touching distance of the autos! Everyone's lost their minds. |
Not really. Lot of measured analysis.
Then we get your relentless everything's great posts which don't stand up to scrutiny | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 00:18 - Nov 24 with 357 views | sundayroast |
What irks me is supporters just brushing off dropping points because of it’s ‘only November’
Get them points on the board now, and the job in April may be less stressful. Look at Coventry, they can come here and sit back safe in the knowledge they have points in the bag and the pressure is all on us
Saw people mocked on here earlier in the season saying ‘only 130 points to play for’ in the blink of an eye that’s now 93 to play for. If we are to get 90points (a figure which likely gets you 2nd) we need to average just over 2ppg for the rest of the season. Dropping points at home to the likes of Wrexham does matter, and is a big deal, brushing it off is just weird | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 06:45 - Nov 24 with 327 views | Blue_Heath |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 21:04 - Nov 23 by SWLondonBlue93 |
We're not in "Mick In/Out territory". Almost nobody is calling for McKenna to go. In fact there are more people making this completely bogus claim than calling for a change of manager. People need to stop creating imaginary situations to get annoyed at. |
Agreed, whilst I don't want him gone the next games of 2024 are pivotal for me. People keep saying only 3 off if we win game in hand, well we have to win it, also 3 points also from sliding a long way down the table.
We need a run of 6 wins, a draw and 2 losses to start 2026 in 2nd place which is at best what we are playing for now. In those 9 we are now playing teams above us.
It's right things are being 'discussed' as the only consistent things are our inconsistency and the constant changing of the team trying to find which one of the 1,024 permutations might work.
Sorry but going to PR has been a largely miserable experience this calendar year that said at least we beat that lot so credit for that. | |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 07:44 - Nov 24 with 309 views | chantryblueboy |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 07:20 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Football economics does not mean that spending equals success. That's the opposite of how it works!
Look at KM's comments from yesterday. He's spelling it out. He's knitting together a new team and squad. Even Jaden is like a new player!
Being patient and getting behind them will be a lot more fun I promise when we have success at the end of the season. |
Strange, could have sworn last season spending did equal success and that was why we had to put up with watching dross every week | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 07:58 - Nov 24 with 279 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 00:18 - Nov 24 by sundayroast |
What irks me is supporters just brushing off dropping points because of it’s ‘only November’
Get them points on the board now, and the job in April may be less stressful. Look at Coventry, they can come here and sit back safe in the knowledge they have points in the bag and the pressure is all on us
Saw people mocked on here earlier in the season saying ‘only 130 points to play for’ in the blink of an eye that’s now 93 to play for. If we are to get 90points (a figure which likely gets you 2nd) we need to average just over 2ppg for the rest of the season. Dropping points at home to the likes of Wrexham does matter, and is a big deal, brushing it off is just weird |
What do you want to do about it then? Wailing all over a football forum doesn't seem to have changed anything.
Brushing off a home draw against a low block is exactly what you have to do. |  |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 14:02 - Nov 24 with 211 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 20:17 - Nov 23 by jasondozzell |
Everything isn't always great! That's my point!
It's football. It's not a Hollywood movie.
We're going to finish top 6 and you know that. I am pretty confident we'll be very happy with where in that top 6 we finish.
What are you individual points?
I'm not saying this team is the same as the 23/24 team. It's a different team. But constantly worrying about having spent money and not being top of the league just seems pretty pointless.
If your thought process was 'we've spent decent cash on players so if we're not top of the league from start to finish it's a disaster ' then you were guaranteed to be disappointed.
If we're not calling for KM's head then let's just let him crack on. The board is insane - we're in 'Mick in/out' argument territory a third of the way through the season within touching distance of the autos! Everyone's lost their minds. |
You could just read the points on my replies if you want. I really have no idea what you’re banging on about at this point.
If I don’t want McKenna out, I can’t critique anything about where the team is at? Mick in, Mick out? Again no idea what you’re talking about.
You’re the definition of a clear and dry happy clapper.
This board is to discuss performances, players, where we are at. Much like podcasts and other forums.
Yes we will finish in at least the top 6, we might finish in the top 2, I’m not sure tbh. | |
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| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 14:10 - Nov 24 with 206 views | backwaywhen |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 20:13 - Nov 22 by itfcsuth |
Philogene was so poor, so ineffective when doesn’t drop a worldy from 25 yards.
They’re so far off the quality you would want to see it is actually frightening, we have a direct comparable to the 23/24 season and squad, and the gap is day and night.
Something isn’t right, when we replaced a record breaking squad by spending £100m to upgrade, and end up going backwards, yes I would probably say something isn’t quite right.
And we were 4th in the division in February when we drew at Bristol, if we are 4th in the Championship in February I’ll be amazed. |
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| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 14:13 - Nov 24 with 202 views | waveneyblue |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 00:18 - Nov 24 by sundayroast |
What irks me is supporters just brushing off dropping points because of it’s ‘only November’
Get them points on the board now, and the job in April may be less stressful. Look at Coventry, they can come here and sit back safe in the knowledge they have points in the bag and the pressure is all on us
Saw people mocked on here earlier in the season saying ‘only 130 points to play for’ in the blink of an eye that’s now 93 to play for. If we are to get 90points (a figure which likely gets you 2nd) we need to average just over 2ppg for the rest of the season. Dropping points at home to the likes of Wrexham does matter, and is a big deal, brushing it off is just weird |
What irks me - is that virtually nobody is "brushing it off" - but get accused of doing so, if they aren't being pathetically over dramatic trying to state that everything is shite.
Its just weird |  | | |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 14:17 - Nov 24 with 201 views | backwaywhen |
| QPR, Stoke at home in 23/24 on 21:12 - Nov 22 by DavoIPB |
We should be in Coventry's position with the amount of money we have spent. It's what most parachute teams do. |
Cough ….Leicester Southampton ? | | | |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 19:36 - Nov 24 with 136 views | sundayroast |
| QPR (h), Stoke (a) in 23/24 on 14:13 - Nov 24 by waveneyblue |
What irks me - is that virtually nobody is "brushing it off" - but get accused of doing so, if they aren't being pathetically over dramatic trying to state that everything is shite.
Its just weird |
Not entirely sure I’ve seen you post anything other than attempting to belittle those who raise genuine concerns, and aren’t wearing blue tinted glasses
I could be incorrect of course, and I’ve missed a really well written informed post.
If I have please do pop a link in a reply here | | | |
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