| Three points off second. 22:58 - Nov 28 with 2678 views | jasondozzell |
Team has improved a lot since tricky start to season.
We'll no doubt strengthen in Jan.
Just enjoy getting behind them! |  | | |  |
| Three points off second. on 23:21 - Nov 28 with 675 views | jasondozzell |
| Three points off second. on 23:18 - Nov 28 by Funge |
The returning acceptance of this drift back into mediocrity, last seen under Paul Cook, wigs me out.
You are clearly very content with our progress this season, after we went down without even a suggestion, even a hint, of any fight whatsoever last year. For clarity, I absolutely am not content, far from it.
2025 has been, in the main, a woeful year on the pitch. We have beaten those Norfolk pricks, which has been, by some sizeable difference, the highlight of the year. There really isn't much more.
The kindest way I can summarise this is to state that your views on this teams performances, and mine, are very far apart indeed. |
How many points clear at the top of the league should we be? | | | |
| Three points off second. on 23:23 - Nov 28 with 668 views | itfcsuth |
We haven’t improved, that’s your delusion kicking in again, we’ve been stagnant all season, we haven’t got any worse, we haven’t got any better.
It’s still a disjointed, unbalanced group, that lacks any level cohesion or connection - the January window is not going to fix the problems we have.
Performances are still absolutely miles away from where we would want be. [Post edited 28 Nov 23:37]
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| Three points off second. on 23:24 - Nov 28 with 656 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Three points off second. on 23:21 - Nov 28 by jasondozzell |
How many points clear at the top of the league should we be? |
Personally think based on finances we should as well as the other parachute clubs be either with Coventry or slightly behind. |  |
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| Three points off second. on 23:31 - Nov 28 with 628 views | Funge |
| Three points off second. on 23:21 - Nov 28 by jasondozzell |
How many points clear at the top of the league should we be? |
Asinine response.
You are clearly happy with this mediocity, as, indeed, you appear to be after every poor result.
This is one of the most expensive squads ever assembled at this level - Oxford's squad cost what, 5% of ours? Charlton/ Preston/ Blackburn the same.... and we've looked drek against all of them, as we've done against Watford/ WBA, hell, everyone except the Blunts, QPR and Swansea.
Matusiwa is arguably the only player in this team who looks like he would fit in, in the Prem. Perhaps Philogene at a push, but he struggled like hell last season.
For £150m, that's astonishing. |  | | |
| Three points off second. on 23:31 - Nov 28 with 628 views | jasondozzell |
| Three points off second. on 23:24 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Personally think based on finances we should as well as the other parachute clubs be either with Coventry or slightly behind. |
We're not far off then. 29 games to make up 10 points or so. | | | |
| Three points off second. on 23:34 - Nov 28 with 616 views | Esseeja |
| Three points off second. on 23:21 - Nov 28 by jasondozzell |
How many points clear at the top of the league should we be? |
I've said this twice now, but if we cherry-picked the 4 games where we scored 3 or more goals in, then our goal difference is -2, with 13 played, 13 scored, and 15 conceded.
It's unacceptable.
A team of our quality should be far better than this, and should be fighting Coventry within at least a point either side at this stage of the season. |  | | |
| Three points off second. on 23:36 - Nov 28 with 602 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Three points off second. on 23:21 - Nov 28 by jasondozzell |
How many points clear at the top of the league should we be? |
Can you just stop with this ridiculous routine every time we have a crap result? You embarrass yourself every time. |  |
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| Three points off second. on 23:36 - Nov 28 with 601 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Three points off second. on 23:31 - Nov 28 by jasondozzell |
We're not far off then. 29 games to make up 10 points or so. |
Tomorrow could be 13. No thats not close or just behind. | |
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| Three points off second. on 23:38 - Nov 28 with 595 views | jasondozzell |
| Three points off second. on 23:34 - Nov 28 by Esseeja |
I've said this twice now, but if we cherry-picked the 4 games where we scored 3 or more goals in, then our goal difference is -2, with 13 played, 13 scored, and 15 conceded.
It's unacceptable.
A team of our quality should be far better than this, and should be fighting Coventry within at least a point either side at this stage of the season. |
Perhaps it's expectations then.
You've started the season thinking we must be first or one point off it.
I said at the start that I expected us to be top 6 and hoped we would be top two eventually. My view was it was going to take some patience and with the turnover, relegation hangover and knowing the league it was not going to be easy. | | | |
| Three points off second. on 23:39 - Nov 28 with 589 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| Three points off second. on 23:17 - Nov 28 by jasondozzell |
I'm not sure that would even get into the top 200 games of dross I've seen us play.
Cmon. You watched the game. We were in control for long periods. We lost to two sloppy goals. It happens. |
First point in your post is irrelevant.
Second point - we were never in control of that game. Meaningless possession does not equate to control. We conceded countless big chances to them and had Walton to thank for keeping the score down.
It was a dire, guyless performance. Again. |  | | |
| Three points off second. on 23:57 - Nov 28 with 550 views | Esseeja |
| Three points off second. on 23:38 - Nov 28 by jasondozzell |
Perhaps it's expectations then.
You've started the season thinking we must be first or one point off it.
I said at the start that I expected us to be top 6 and hoped we would be top two eventually. My view was it was going to take some patience and with the turnover, relegation hangover and knowing the league it was not going to be easy. |
If your standards are top 6 for the money spent, the expectations, and the quality of this league, then I think your standards are too low.
Look at the quality of this league, and the money we have spent.
Most of this team have already played with each other since last season, we are now 3 months in with all the training and match time they have played together, and we are still falling so far short of where we SHOULD be, in a league that cannot stay consistent. Tonight was our chance to take advantage of it and go on a winning run.
We've only managed to win 2 games in a row at most so far, and we are about to enter another tough December.
Blackburn away, where we failed to score against them for 80 minutes before it was called off.
League leaders Coventry - who score for fun.
Stoke - this is actually a good opportunity, 7 of their 12 goals conceded so far have come away from home.
Leicester away - who although have only lost once at home so far, have also only one once in their last 5 home games.
Weds - If we don't win this then expect prams everywhere. No excuses.
Millwall away - Who have won 4 of their last 5 home games, the other being a draw.
Coventry away.
We were in the best position out of the 3 teams coming down in terms of squad quality. We've added to it, and we are somehow worse off for it.
Southampton are on their way up, Wrexham and Derby are managing their circumstances far better than we are managing ours, and are now chasing the top 6 with their recent run of results. Birmingham are now scoring for fun at home and are now chasing us as well, Stoke managed a point more than us in the last 5. Preston managed the same amount as us.
We are failing to chase, and are at risk of failing to pull away. There is a real risk we don't get top 6 this season.
I agree, it's expectations. | | | |
| Three points off second. on 00:11 - Nov 29 with 513 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Three points off second. on 23:57 - Nov 28 by Esseeja |
If your standards are top 6 for the money spent, the expectations, and the quality of this league, then I think your standards are too low.
Look at the quality of this league, and the money we have spent.
Most of this team have already played with each other since last season, we are now 3 months in with all the training and match time they have played together, and we are still falling so far short of where we SHOULD be, in a league that cannot stay consistent. Tonight was our chance to take advantage of it and go on a winning run.
We've only managed to win 2 games in a row at most so far, and we are about to enter another tough December.
Blackburn away, where we failed to score against them for 80 minutes before it was called off.
League leaders Coventry - who score for fun.
Stoke - this is actually a good opportunity, 7 of their 12 goals conceded so far have come away from home.
Leicester away - who although have only lost once at home so far, have also only one once in their last 5 home games.
Weds - If we don't win this then expect prams everywhere. No excuses.
Millwall away - Who have won 4 of their last 5 home games, the other being a draw.
Coventry away.
We were in the best position out of the 3 teams coming down in terms of squad quality. We've added to it, and we are somehow worse off for it.
Southampton are on their way up, Wrexham and Derby are managing their circumstances far better than we are managing ours, and are now chasing the top 6 with their recent run of results. Birmingham are now scoring for fun at home and are now chasing us as well, Stoke managed a point more than us in the last 5. Preston managed the same amount as us.
We are failing to chase, and are at risk of failing to pull away. There is a real risk we don't get top 6 this season.
I agree, it's expectations. |
Doesn’t looks like a top 2 team does it? Let’s see how we are after Cov and Stoke. If we fail to beat either big questions are going to be asked on the direction of travel. | |
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| Three points off second. on 02:15 - Nov 29 with 457 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Three points off second. on 23:21 - Nov 28 by jasondozzell |
How many points clear at the top of the league should we be? |
Tedious b/s |  | | |
| Three points off second. on 07:34 - Nov 29 with 369 views | WestSussexBlue |
| Three points off second. on 23:24 - Nov 28 by FrimleyBlue |
Personally think based on finances we should as well as the other parachute clubs be either with Coventry or slightly behind. |
It doesn’t all come down to finances. | | | |
| Three points off second. on 07:41 - Nov 29 with 361 views | bluesym |
I have absolutely no problem with positivity and totally get the glass half full outlook but honestly, sometimes I think you are just on a wind up. |  |
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| Three points off second. on 07:42 - Nov 29 with 359 views | Swansea_Blue |
3 points off 15th too, so I wouldn’t read too much in to the table with 29 games to go. We’re in a reasonable position with a good chance to stake a claim for the top two, and lots of other clubs will feel the same. There are going to be plenty more highs and lows along the way as nobody bar Coventry is showing consistency.
Buckle up and enjoy the ride!  |  |
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| Three points off second. on 07:47 - Nov 29 with 350 views | cbower |
| Three points off second. on 23:31 - Nov 28 by Funge |
Asinine response.
You are clearly happy with this mediocity, as, indeed, you appear to be after every poor result.
This is one of the most expensive squads ever assembled at this level - Oxford's squad cost what, 5% of ours? Charlton/ Preston/ Blackburn the same.... and we've looked drek against all of them, as we've done against Watford/ WBA, hell, everyone except the Blunts, QPR and Swansea.
Matusiwa is arguably the only player in this team who looks like he would fit in, in the Prem. Perhaps Philogene at a push, but he struggled like hell last season.
For £150m, that's astonishing. |
Precisely this although Philogene isn't Premier League quality either, flashes but that's all |  |
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| Three points off second. on 07:53 - Nov 29 with 344 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Three points off second. on 07:34 - Nov 29 by WestSussexBlue |
It doesn’t all come down to finances. |
If finances didnt help then you'd have sides like Oxford in the top 6 not the bottom.
There's a reason why parachute clubs in general yo yo unless finances used wrongly
I think it'd fair to say our spend has been extreme and on the wrong players.
A few as individuals in a squad fine. But individuals together in this unit isn't balanced. | |
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| Three points off second. on 08:37 - Nov 29 with 288 views | Blue_Heath |
| Three points off second. on 23:18 - Nov 28 by Funge |
The returning acceptance of this drift back into mediocrity, last seen under Paul Cook, wigs me out.
You are clearly very content with our progress this season, after we went down without even a suggestion, even a hint, of any fight whatsoever last year. For clarity, I absolutely am not content, far from it.
2025 has been, in the main, a woeful year on the pitch. We have beaten those Norfolk pricks, which has been, by some sizeable difference, the highlight of the year. There really isn't much more.
The kindest way I can summarise this is to state that your views on this teams performances, and mine, are very far apart indeed. |
Spot on, without doubt shutting that lot up by far and away the best thing about 2025 so grateful for that.
Besides that going to PR starting to feel McCarthyesque in that you know how things will play out most of the time and few wins to celebrate.
If people are happy with 2025 home form I amazed, you folk must be easily pleased. | |
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| Three points off second. on 08:57 - Nov 29 with 268 views | TownieRob |
As I was making the four-hour drive home last night with a car full of disgruntled friends. I joked, “I wonder how Jasondozzell from TWTD will manage to put a positive spin on that...and fair play, you’ve not disappointed. I genuinely tip my hat. This might be one of your finest efforts yet. | | | |
| Three points off second. on 09:02 - Nov 29 with 259 views | jasondozzell |
| Three points off second. on 07:41 - Nov 29 by bluesym |
I have absolutely no problem with positivity and totally get the glass half full outlook but honestly, sometimes I think you are just on a wind up. |
Having sat through the bleakest of times under Evans, I just refuse to behave like we're adrift in league one and rudderless when the club is in rude financial health, had the best manager we've had for 25 years if not longer, and is 3 points off second. I really do question whether people who are overreacting have forgotten what normal seasons were like here.
This was always going to be tricky. KM patiently explains why but people don't listen. I've seen enough to know that we will finish top 6 comfortably and I expect top two.. It's not a video game. Setbacks happen. We're going clearly in the right direction. We played some good stuff last night. | | | |
| Three points off second. on 09:03 - Nov 29 with 255 views | jasondozzell |
| Three points off second. on 08:37 - Nov 29 by Blue_Heath |
Spot on, without doubt shutting that lot up by far and away the best thing about 2025 so grateful for that.
Besides that going to PR starting to feel McCarthyesque in that you know how things will play out most of the time and few wins to celebrate.
If people are happy with 2025 home form I amazed, you folk must be easily pleased. |
'Going to PR is starting to feel McCarthyesque'
Get a grip! | | | |
| Three points off second. on 09:08 - Nov 29 with 230 views | jasondozzell |
| Three points off second. on 08:57 - Nov 29 by TownieRob |
As I was making the four-hour drive home last night with a car full of disgruntled friends. I joked, “I wonder how Jasondozzell from TWTD will manage to put a positive spin on that...and fair play, you’ve not disappointed. I genuinely tip my hat. This might be one of your finest efforts yet. |
Journeys home from aways used to be a lot more grim before the KM era.
Listen to what he's saying in the interview.
There no divine right to beat teams in this division. Anyone who knows the championship knows that.
Surely you can see that we've made progress since Birmingham? KM has never been about individual games, he's always been more interested in the process. Like he always says, football is a random low scoring event. So better to not overreact and stick to the principles he has. Like for example using squad depth. It might not work straight away but in the end it will win us more points.
3 points off second. Keep the faith. I can't think of a manager who deserves that more than KM. [Post edited 29 Nov 9:15]
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| Three points off second. on 09:09 - Nov 29 with 226 views | Herbivore |
| Three points off second. on 23:34 - Nov 28 by Esseeja |
I've said this twice now, but if we cherry-picked the 4 games where we scored 3 or more goals in, then our goal difference is -2, with 13 played, 13 scored, and 15 conceded.
It's unacceptable.
A team of our quality should be far better than this, and should be fighting Coventry within at least a point either side at this stage of the season. |
How does our record look if we decide to randomly discount our four defeats instead? We've been very frustrating this season and last night was a microcosm of the issues that have made it a frustrating season. Before that we were unbeaten in 6 and our record since the end of the transfer window has been decent. We need to improve and be more clinical in the final third but there have been signs of improvement prior to last night. This place loses all sense of perspective on a result by result basis. |  |
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| Three points off second. on 09:22 - Nov 29 with 210 views | TownieRob |
| Three points off second. on 09:08 - Nov 29 by jasondozzell |
Journeys home from aways used to be a lot more grim before the KM era.
Listen to what he's saying in the interview.
There no divine right to beat teams in this division. Anyone who knows the championship knows that.
Surely you can see that we've made progress since Birmingham? KM has never been about individual games, he's always been more interested in the process. Like he always says, football is a random low scoring event. So better to not overreact and stick to the principles he has. Like for example using squad depth. It might not work straight away but in the end it will win us more points.
3 points off second. Keep the faith. I can't think of a manager who deserves that more than KM. [Post edited 29 Nov 9:15]
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We had a tally up on the way home. We’ve played 18 games across league and cup, and in our view we’ve been average or sub-par in 11 of them, including four of the last five. So no, that’s not improvement or development. Most of the wins this season have come from moments of individual brilliance, which you’d expect given the transfer fees involved. Again, that’s not evidence of progression.
And without going over the top, which is very possible given how tired I am, I honestly don’t see how he suddenly gets a tune out of this group when he hasn’t managed to so far. To be clear, my opinion is that this isn't on McKenna solely, unless he's 100% responsible for recruitment (which I can't believe or want to believe he is). This is where I lay the blame.
Anyway, up and down and all that. | | | |
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