| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea 18:33 - Dec 5 with 5579 views | chantryblueboy |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:02 - Dec 17 with 728 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 20:54 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
If they come out tomorrow and said our plan to make the club bigger and more successful was to sack McKenna would you blindly agree with that, or would you come to your own conclusion about what is for the best of the club in the long term? |
Can you put into words what it is you dislike about the club having plans for a larger stadium? |  |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:07 - Dec 17 with 718 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 20:54 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
If they come out tomorrow and said our plan to make the club bigger and more successful was to sack McKenna would you blindly agree with that, or would you come to your own conclusion about what is for the best of the club in the long term? |
I don’t blindly agree with anything they say. It’s about applying some critical thinking to what has been said about the club’s plans for the next 5-7 years, and a larger capacity stadium is a small part of that along the way.
If they announced they were building a 40k capacity stadium immediately, I’d question the rationale. They haven’t. If they say a 40k capacity stadium is part of their broader, long term ambition, I’d conclude that makes sense. This is what they have said.
I’m more than interested in hearing a detailed, thought out counter argument to this. | | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:10 - Dec 17 with 711 views | chantryblueboy |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:02 - Dec 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Can you put into words what it is you dislike about the club having plans for a larger stadium? |
Likelihood of it being filled week in week out
Loss of Portman Road being a traditional ground
Movement away from being a football club built on tradition and values and towards being a corporate template | | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:14 - Dec 17 with 684 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:10 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
Likelihood of it being filled week in week out
Loss of Portman Road being a traditional ground
Movement away from being a football club built on tradition and values and towards being a corporate template |
Nothing to do with atmosphere, then.
You would rather we downsized to ensure that, should we get less successful we at least had a full ground.
You opposed the development of the current stands and would prefer we still had sheds around the ground then?
You would prefer to support Ipswich Wanderers than a Premier League club. | |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:24 - Dec 17 with 670 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 19:49 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
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No i don’t |
Then you havent done your homework or been there for events... | | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:27 - Dec 17 with 656 views | chantryblueboy |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:14 - Dec 17 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Nothing to do with atmosphere, then.
You would rather we downsized to ensure that, should we get less successful we at least had a full ground.
You opposed the development of the current stands and would prefer we still had sheds around the ground then?
You would prefer to support Ipswich Wanderers than a Premier League club. |
Our current ground is too big when we are not successful. This has been proven | | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:27 - Dec 17 with 652 views | chantryblueboy |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:24 - Dec 17 by redrickstuhaart |
Then you havent done your homework or been there for events... |
I support a football club not a guitar concert | | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:36 - Dec 17 with 623 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:27 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
I support a football club not a guitar concert |
And? | | | |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:39 - Dec 17 with 612 views | chantryblueboy |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:36 - Dec 17 by redrickstuhaart |
And? |
And I care about how a football ground functions as a football ground not an events centre | | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:44 - Dec 17 with 603 views | bluefunk |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:27 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
I support a football club not a guitar concert |
If you do support the football club, then you’ll understand that to have a successful football team, you have to spend money (that usually dictates success, although there are exceptions). That being the case, we need revenue, part of which comes from selling seats but as importantly, from use of the ground when there isn’t a game. The stands we are considering developing are 40 and 50 years old, they are cramped and lacking facilities, so they need improvement no matter what. Not sure which bit of that means you don’t want it. |  | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 22:00 - Dec 17 with 562 views | Herbivore |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 20:46 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
Easy to spot those who only started going post Gamechanger |
Season ticket holder for over 20 years as it goes. And I've not heard anyone sing that our ground's too big for us, let alone on the numerous occasions you suggest. |  |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 22:01 - Dec 17 with 567 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:39 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
And I care about how a football ground functions as a football ground not an events centre |
Is there some suggestion that improving commercial revenue and facilities, like most serious clubs do now, would impact how the ground functions as a football ground?
And don't think we havent noticed how you have wriggled away from justifying your silly comments about Bristol. Which is really a very decent setup these days. [Post edited 17 Dec 22:02]
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 22:05 - Dec 17 with 560 views | chantryblueboy |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 22:00 - Dec 17 by Herbivore |
Season ticket holder for over 20 years as it goes. And I've not heard anyone sing that our ground's too big for us, let alone on the numerous occasions you suggest. |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 22:24 - Dec 17 with 518 views | MattinLondon |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:27 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
Our current ground is too big when we are not successful. This has been proven |
The same goes for all clubs though.
Stick all the present PL clubs in the championship for a couple seasons and watch their attendances plummet. |  | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 14:04 - Dec 18 with 347 views | Churchman |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 21:27 - Dec 17 by chantryblueboy |
Our current ground is too big when we are not successful. This has been proven |
Our current ground is too small when we are successful. This has been proven.
It’s 2025. The current ground with the exception of the lower section of the West Stand is completely changed from when I first entered it as a child. Where’s the ‘tradition’ in that? There isn’t any. There is just change. It’s the way of the world.
You might want just a football club and the ground used 23 times a year. We had that under Evans for 14 years. Joyous wasn’t it. That old tradition dirt on your trousers sitting on a seat with a rusty frame. The stench of the fetid bogs, East stand with its narrow gloomy stairs and seats where your shins are jammed against the seat in front unless you are a child or a dwarf. Floodlights with half the bulbs out. Ahhh, the good old days when the purchase of a tin of paint was seen as an upgrade.
Alternatively, how about accepting that unless you progress and embrace change you will go backwards as we had done after 2002 and before 2021. How about understanding that if you build something decent it’ll attract more people.
When Sunderland moved from Roker Park to SoL, their attendances rocketed. I wouldn’t expect that here, but I do think better facilities and an appropriate capacity would attract more people, especially those that can only make the odd game. And for those that already attend, how can better facilities be a bad thing? |  | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 14:36 - Dec 18 with 305 views | Vaughan8 |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 22:00 - Dec 17 by Herbivore |
Season ticket holder for over 20 years as it goes. And I've not heard anyone sing that our ground's too big for us, let alone on the numerous occasions you suggest. |
In the guys defence, I've heard it at our ground. We were getting 12-13k at one point.
If you've been a ST holder for 20 years, it's definitely been sung while you've been there. | | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 14:54 - Dec 18 with 268 views | positivity |
typical cbbs, any excuse to slag the club and town off... | |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 15:01 - Dec 18 with 258 views | Herbivore |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 14:36 - Dec 18 by Vaughan8 |
In the guys defence, I've heard it at our ground. We were getting 12-13k at one point.
If you've been a ST holder for 20 years, it's definitely been sung while you've been there. |
Fair play to you if you can remember opposition chants from a decade ago. I can remember chanting it myself on away days but don't recall hearing it at PR. Certainly it hasn't ever happened frequently enough for the OP to be wetting themselves over it. | |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 15:03 - Dec 18 with 260 views | Churchman |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 14:36 - Dec 18 by Vaughan8 |
In the guys defence, I've heard it at our ground. We were getting 12-13k at one point.
If you've been a ST holder for 20 years, it's definitely been sung while you've been there. |
We played Newcastle at St James Park in 1992. Lyall’s team were top and the crowd was 17k
They are now looking to increase their capacity to 60k plus. Times change.
I’m failing to understand why anyone would object to Portman Rd being redeveloped, made available for other usage beyond 23 games and the capacity realistically increased. Providing it’s planned and financed properly, unlike Sheepshanks’ dogs dinner in 2000, obviously. | | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 16:28 - Dec 18 with 215 views | Dubtractor |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 15:03 - Dec 18 by Churchman |
We played Newcastle at St James Park in 1992. Lyall’s team were top and the crowd was 17k
They are now looking to increase their capacity to 60k plus. Times change.
I’m failing to understand why anyone would object to Portman Rd being redeveloped, made available for other usage beyond 23 games and the capacity realistically increased. Providing it’s planned and financed properly, unlike Sheepshanks’ dogs dinner in 2000, obviously. |
It boils down to whether the club plans for failure or success.
If the plan is for us to spend 20 years in this division again, then absolutely the increased capacity will be unused, but that's a hell of a defeatist attitude. |  |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 16:39 - Dec 18 with 197 views | lurcher |
You need the free capacity to grow a fanbase. Tickets that are freely available for every game. |  | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 17:41 - Dec 18 with 140 views | Vaughan8 |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 15:01 - Dec 18 by Herbivore |
Fair play to you if you can remember opposition chants from a decade ago. I can remember chanting it myself on away days but don't recall hearing it at PR. Certainly it hasn't ever happened frequently enough for the OP to be wetting themselves over it. |
I can't remember the exact minute of the exact game, but considering nearly every club would have had it sung to them at some point, i'd say its very likely it has been sung at our ground and its very likely to be more than a handful of times, especially if the ground was half full, which lets face it, in the last 20 years was quite a few seasons.
He might be spouting a load of nonsense but a clock is at least right twice a day....! | | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 19:01 - Dec 18 with 101 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 14:36 - Dec 18 by Vaughan8 |
In the guys defence, I've heard it at our ground. We were getting 12-13k at one point.
If you've been a ST holder for 20 years, it's definitely been sung while you've been there. |
I recall it too. However, I think it would be during the 90s which is now well over 20 years ago. The truth is that without investment we would become how we were under Marcus Evans and with the ground as it is away fans could probably still sing it to us. Chantry has already admitted that when we are very poor the ground is already too big. I don't get why that is his aim, though. Surely we aim to do well and need investment in all areas including upgrading the ground.
Much as he has avoided my previous points, I genuinely think he would be more comfortable supporting a smaller local team like Ipswich Wanderers where the stands aren't going to be expanded significantly, the fans and most of the players truly are local and there is a greater sense of tradition and familiarity (apologies to Ipswich Wanderers if that is not a fair description of them - I don't follow them!) | |
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| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 19:41 - Dec 18 with 75 views | Dennyx4 |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 16:39 - Dec 18 by lurcher |
You need the free capacity to grow a fanbase. Tickets that are freely available for every game. |
Tickets are available for every game this season, except Norwich, however if you have a new family wanting to attend, it is still very hard to get 4 seats together, that are not restricted view. |  | | |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 19:46 - Dec 18 with 70 views | Herbivore |
| Expansion of the ground seems a great idea on 17:41 - Dec 18 by Vaughan8 |
I can't remember the exact minute of the exact game, but considering nearly every club would have had it sung to them at some point, i'd say its very likely it has been sung at our ground and its very likely to be more than a handful of times, especially if the ground was half full, which lets face it, in the last 20 years was quite a few seasons.
He might be spouting a load of nonsense but a clock is at least right twice a day....! |
We've never averaged less than half our capacity at any time in the last 20 years. We've had odd games where it's been less than half full but our lowest average attendance has been 16,272. It does sound a bit speculative from you that we've been on the receiving end of that chant, especially as the OP is claiming it's been a frequent occurrence and that doesn't seem to be the case. | |
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