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WTF? 07:18 - Dec 11 with 5310 viewsnoggin

Sky News have just shown homeless statistics. 1 in 45 people in London are considered homeless, including 97000 children.

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WTF? on 10:38 - Dec 11 with 900 viewsJ2BLUE

WTF? on 07:27 - Dec 11 by TNBlue

What are you personally doing about it may I ask?


If anyone would like to do something about it, these are great ways to help

https://www.crisis.org.uk/get-involved/donate-to-crisis-at-christmas

https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/support-salvation-army-christmas-3

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WTF? on 10:45 - Dec 11 with 873 viewsBenters

WTF? on 07:38 - Dec 11 by noggin

Homeless does not mean sleeping rough. You know that though, you heartless old fool.


Balls.

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WTF? on 10:49 - Dec 11 with 866 viewsDJR

WTF? on 10:38 - Dec 11 by J2BLUE

If anyone would like to do something about it, these are great ways to help

https://www.crisis.org.uk/get-involved/donate-to-crisis-at-christmas

https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/support-salvation-army-christmas-3


There's also the BBC Christmas Appeal which since 1927 has raised funds for St Martin-in-the Field.

The funds are divided equally between The Connection at St Martin's, which supports vulnerable and homeless people in central London, and the Vicar's Relief Fund, which makes grants, averaging £200, to people anywhere in the UK who are at risk of homelessness or with experience of being homeless.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wh1dk

The work of St. Martin's with the homeless date backs to WW1 when troops were sent back for a rest from the front but were often left stuck in London. I myself volunteered at the Connection back in the 1990s.
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WTF? on 10:51 - Dec 11 with 863 viewsBenters

WTF? on 08:38 - Dec 11 by witchdoctor

why not?..come out and say what you think instead of snidely asides…


I’m not racist I have a black Auntie and Cousins.

I don’t like uncontrolled immigrants pouring into the country though.

If that makes me a ‘racist’then so be it.

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WTF? on 11:34 - Dec 11 with 790 viewsStenvict

WTF? on 08:22 - Dec 11 by TNBlue

Yes its right to be appalled about it. Homelessness in Britain is at ridiculous levels considering we are the world's 6th biggest economy. Social housing stocks have been decimated and even young working people are struggling to buy homes. It makes me angry. FYI I have been homeless myself and I have also given back in terms of helping out charities like Emmaus and going out distributing sandwiches in the town centre, considering myself fortunate to have pulled myself out of that situation. What irks me is people virtue signalling about it and then having a dig at others. If you're doing FA to help then you're no more effecitvely helping than someone who doesn't care.


This

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WTF? on 11:40 - Dec 11 with 777 viewsGlasgowBlue

WTF? on 10:38 - Dec 11 by J2BLUE

If anyone would like to do something about it, these are great ways to help

https://www.crisis.org.uk/get-involved/donate-to-crisis-at-christmas

https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/support-salvation-army-christmas-3


So you are saying that there are real practical things we can all do to help people other than a daily dose of virtue signalling on a provincial football team's message board?

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WTF? on 11:48 - Dec 11 with 765 viewsJ2BLUE

WTF? on 11:40 - Dec 11 by GlasgowBlue

So you are saying that there are real practical things we can all do to help people other than a daily dose of virtue signalling on a provincial football team's message board?


There is. For relatively peanuts as well.

Don't wish to be a virtue signalling w@nker but I love this site https://www.goodgifts.org/all-gifts Discovered it on MSE so it's legit. When you see the things a small amount of money can buy it's so depressing that some people have billions.

The advent calendars are brilliant
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WTF? on 11:51 - Dec 11 with 755 viewsJ2BLUE

WTF? on 10:51 - Dec 11 by Benters

I’m not racist I have a black Auntie and Cousins.

I don’t like uncontrolled immigrants pouring into the country though.

If that makes me a ‘racist’then so be it.


You're not a racist IMO. You play the character of a racist on here and the same people take the bait but I don't believe you're a racist in the real world.

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WTF? on 12:34 - Dec 11 with 697 viewsusm

WTF? on 07:18 - Dec 11 by Benters

Rubbish.

*considered* does that mean temporary accommodation?
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Well here we are again.
One comment questioning a stat and suddenly you're a non caring, well off racist.
Me too I suspect, after this post.
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WTF? on 12:42 - Dec 11 with 675 views_CliveBaker_

The national average is 0.5%, so it being 4x that in the capital doesn't surprise me greatly, as depressing as it is.

The UK has some of the worst homeless rates (if not the worst) of any country in Europe.
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WTF? on 12:51 - Dec 11 with 653 viewsMattinLondon

WTF? on 12:42 - Dec 11 by _CliveBaker_

The national average is 0.5%, so it being 4x that in the capital doesn't surprise me greatly, as depressing as it is.

The UK has some of the worst homeless rates (if not the worst) of any country in Europe.


Anyone remember when the country managed to house the homeless during Covid?
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WTF? on 13:01 - Dec 11 with 626 viewsGlasgowBlue

WTF? on 12:51 - Dec 11 by MattinLondon

Anyone remember when the country managed to house the homeless during Covid?


The majority of those classed as homeless in the UK are in temporary accommodation, not living on the streets. So they would have been in temporary accommodation during covid.

Like Clive says, the UK has ne of the highest rates of homelessness in Europe. but not the highest rate of people living on the streets. Germany, Portugal, Belgium and Czechia have a much higher rate of rough sleepers.

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WTF? on 13:12 - Dec 11 with 599 viewsunbelievablue

WTF? on 12:42 - Dec 11 by _CliveBaker_

The national average is 0.5%, so it being 4x that in the capital doesn't surprise me greatly, as depressing as it is.

The UK has some of the worst homeless rates (if not the worst) of any country in Europe.


It's a scandal. Blind eyes (or worse, denial cough) don't help.

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WTF? on 13:13 - Dec 11 with 597 viewsunbelievablue

WTF? on 13:01 - Dec 11 by GlasgowBlue

The majority of those classed as homeless in the UK are in temporary accommodation, not living on the streets. So they would have been in temporary accommodation during covid.

Like Clive says, the UK has ne of the highest rates of homelessness in Europe. but not the highest rate of people living on the streets. Germany, Portugal, Belgium and Czechia have a much higher rate of rough sleepers.

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Not a dig at you but I've never really liked the term rough sleepers, because it kind of glosses over the fact that these people don't have anywhere during the day, either.

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WTF? on 13:40 - Dec 11 with 562 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

WTF? on 08:22 - Dec 11 by TNBlue

Yes its right to be appalled about it. Homelessness in Britain is at ridiculous levels considering we are the world's 6th biggest economy. Social housing stocks have been decimated and even young working people are struggling to buy homes. It makes me angry. FYI I have been homeless myself and I have also given back in terms of helping out charities like Emmaus and going out distributing sandwiches in the town centre, considering myself fortunate to have pulled myself out of that situation. What irks me is people virtue signalling about it and then having a dig at others. If you're doing FA to help then you're no more effecitvely helping than someone who doesn't care.


I don't see any virtue signalling in this thread, I see someone shocked at the stats and then someone else denying them and then belittling them. To me that's wrong. Whether people do their bit to help or don't (you have no idea what other people do for charity, or what ability they have to do so) is beside the point.

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WTF? on 13:51 - Dec 11 with 520 viewsGlasgowBlue

WTF? on 13:13 - Dec 11 by unbelievablue

Not a dig at you but I've never really liked the term rough sleepers, because it kind of glosses over the fact that these people don't have anywhere during the day, either.


That is a very fair point.

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WTF? on 15:37 - Dec 11 with 456 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

WTF? on 11:40 - Dec 11 by GlasgowBlue

So you are saying that there are real practical things we can all do to help people other than a daily dose of virtue signalling on a provincial football team's message board?


I could write you an essay about charities that essentially deal with symptoms rather than the underlying broken systems that lead to the need for them. In fact many of them do more for making those that benefit from said broken system feeling better about themselves than actually fixing anything.
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WTF? on 15:41 - Dec 11 with 451 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

WTF? on 11:51 - Dec 11 by J2BLUE

You're not a racist IMO. You play the character of a racist on here and the same people take the bait but I don't believe you're a racist in the real world.


I should hope not as he has relatives that invaded (I'm sorry, I mean who were pioneers in) other countries in boats!

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WTF? on 15:45 - Dec 11 with 445 viewsgiant_stow

WTF? on 13:13 - Dec 11 by unbelievablue

Not a dig at you but I've never really liked the term rough sleepers, because it kind of glosses over the fact that these people don't have anywhere during the day, either.


Sorry if I've misremembered or even shouldn't remember, but aren't you the guy that did a lot of work on homelessness way back? Did you sleep on the streets near LS for a while even? I've just got a memory of reading a diary of those experiences or something...

(Apols if misjudged or plain wrong)

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WTF? on 16:02 - Dec 11 with 405 viewsGlasgowBlue

WTF? on 15:45 - Dec 11 by giant_stow

Sorry if I've misremembered or even shouldn't remember, but aren't you the guy that did a lot of work on homelessness way back? Did you sleep on the streets near LS for a while even? I've just got a memory of reading a diary of those experiences or something...

(Apols if misjudged or plain wrong)


That was Lucan's son RKD.

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WTF? on 16:09 - Dec 11 with 392 viewswitchdoctor

WTF? on 12:34 - Dec 11 by usm

Well here we are again.
One comment questioning a stat and suddenly you're a non caring, well off racist.
Me too I suspect, after this post.
🙄


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WTF? on 16:27 - Dec 11 with 368 viewsgiant_stow

WTF? on 16:02 - Dec 11 by GlasgowBlue

That was Lucan's son RKD.


Ah apologies all.

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WTF? on 16:33 - Dec 11 with 355 viewsmellowblue

WTF? on 10:38 - Dec 11 by J2BLUE

If anyone would like to do something about it, these are great ways to help

https://www.crisis.org.uk/get-involved/donate-to-crisis-at-christmas

https://www.salvationarmy.org.uk/support-salvation-army-christmas-3


Well done, something constructive rather than point scoring. I hope the links get clicked. The Sally Army have done so much for so many years.
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WTF? on 16:34 - Dec 11 with 364 viewsTNBlue

WTF? on 13:40 - Dec 11 by The_Flashing_Smile

I don't see any virtue signalling in this thread, I see someone shocked at the stats and then someone else denying them and then belittling them. To me that's wrong. Whether people do their bit to help or don't (you have no idea what other people do for charity, or what ability they have to do so) is beside the point.


Why do you downvote any poster that disagrees with you by the way?

That's really strange and petty behaviour.
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WTF? on 17:10 - Dec 11 with 296 viewsBenters

WTF? on 12:34 - Dec 11 by usm

Well here we are again.
One comment questioning a stat and suddenly you're a non caring, well off racist.
Me too I suspect, after this post.
🙄


Never mind buh.

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