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Not a chance of top 2 16:22 - Dec 13 with 7332 viewsIP1Blue

We’re not consistent enough.

Our general play has been so far below par all season.

Jack Taylor was our 4th choice and 5th choice in midfield in last 2 seasons and now is starting games, fair enough he was good in a couple but the last couple of games shows why he was 4th and 5th choice.

Hirst and Azon are not good enough and that’s now a fact after 20 games.

Away from home we look a different team.

And if we go behind, it almost feels as if we’ve got no chance of winning a game. A complete opposite to our previous promotion team. If the going gets tough. We crumble which is a massive concern.

Play offs is the maximum we can get.
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Not a chance of top 2 on 18:33 - Jan 2 with 911 viewsHerbivore

Not a chance of top 2 on 18:09 - Jan 2 by Vaughan8

You posted this at half time of the game (Leicester away) before this orginal thread was made:

Poor half by Herbivore 13 Dec 2025 15:55
Been really poor from both teams, they've just scored two ridiculous goals out of nowhere. Clarke really has to do better with the one big chance we've created. That goes in and I'd have fancied us to kick on. Unless we improve significantly after the break I can't see a way back in this one. Frustrating that we can't seem to get our home and away form clicking at the same time. If we can't sort that out, the autos aren't going to be achievable.



Seems to me you "kinda" doubted the autos at the same time too.
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I'm sure you're a sharp enough cookie to see the difference between saying if we don't sort out an issue we won't go up and saying we have no chance of making the top 2.

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Not a chance of top 2 on 18:43 - Jan 2 with 873 viewsMK1

Not a chance of top 2 on 18:33 - Jan 2 by Herbivore

I'm sure you're a sharp enough cookie to see the difference between saying if we don't sort out an issue we won't go up and saying we have no chance of making the top 2.


He did put "kinda".

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Not a chance of top 2 on 18:44 - Jan 2 with 863 viewsHerbivore

Not a chance of top 2 on 18:43 - Jan 2 by MK1

He did put "kinda".


I can read, mate.

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Not a chance of top 2 on 18:47 - Jan 2 with 845 viewsMK1

Not a chance of top 2 on 18:44 - Jan 2 by Herbivore

I can read, mate.


I'm not your "mate".

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Not a chance of top 2 on 18:51 - Jan 2 with 829 viewsMattinLondon

Not a chance of top 2 on 10:47 - Jan 2 by Herbivore

Just bumping this thread from a couple of weeks ago to show how quickly football can change and why reactive absolutist posts rarely age well.

There's still a lot of football to be played and ultimately where we are in May is what matters most, but writing off our automatic promotion hopes less than halfway through the season was always completely daft.


The most shocking things about this thread is that, my earlier posts indicate that not only know do I know what I’m talking about, but also I seem to be quite level headed. Unbelievable.
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Not a chance of top 2 on 19:08 - Jan 2 with 775 viewsbartyg

Not a chance of top 2 on 18:47 - Jan 2 by MK1

I'm not your "mate".


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Not a chance of top 2 on 19:13 - Jan 2 with 768 viewsarmchaircritic59

All I can say is this, take a look at the current form ( last 6 matches ) for the Championship, it's available on here. You'll see both Coventry and Middlesborough aren't even in the top 10! If we're not consistent enough ( and at times that's been a fair comment ), we are not alone!
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Not a chance of top 2 on 19:21 - Jan 2 with 741 viewsMK1

Not a chance of top 2 on 19:08 - Jan 2 by bartyg



I'm an old man. I have my mates. I don't consider anybody on here a mate. I found his reply insulting, so gave it its due response. Not hard, just don't like people calling me mate when they have never met me.

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Not a chance of top 2 on 19:23 - Jan 2 with 737 viewsHerbivore

Not a chance of top 2 on 18:47 - Jan 2 by MK1

I'm not your "mate".



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Not a chance of top 2 on 19:26 - Jan 2 with 730 viewsMK1

Not a chance of top 2 on 18:33 - Jan 2 by Herbivore

I'm sure you're a sharp enough cookie to see the difference between saying if we don't sort out an issue we won't go up and saying we have no chance of making the top 2.


Somebody posted on here the other day, (bouncebackipswich or hugoagogo) that its always better to hold your hands up rather than digging.

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Not a chance of top 2 on 19:28 - Jan 2 with 720 viewsHerbivore

Not a chance of top 2 on 19:26 - Jan 2 by MK1

Somebody posted on here the other day, (bouncebackipswich or hugoagogo) that its always better to hold your hands up rather than digging.


Not sure how you have managed to interpret that as digging, mate.

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Not a chance of top 2 on 19:28 - Jan 2 with 719 viewsMK1

Not a chance of top 2 on 19:23 - Jan 2 by Herbivore



No offence intended, just don't like it. Not you, just me and my old age. Sorry if offended. (sure you weren't)

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Not a chance of top 2 on 22:55 - Jan 2 with 548 viewsbaxterbasics

Not a chance of top 2 on 17:01 - Jan 2 by GlasgowBlue

Do these threads need bumping herbs? Seen somebody doing the same with Furlong earlier. It's unnecessary. If we fail to finish in the top 2 will you bump it agains? Doubtful.

As it is, I've been consistent in my belief that we will be promoted in the automatic places. Although I stuck my neck out a little further and said it would be as Champions. I stand by that. But I'm not going to lnk all those posts in a game of willy waving.

Football is about opinions. In the grand scheme of life, opinions on whether a football team will be top 2 or not are way down the list. Agree or disagree with those options at the time rather than dragging them up weeks or months later.


I think it's fair game to bump this one.

It's always worth highlighting when defeatist, negative doom-mongers are wrong.

It might serve as a helpful reminder to some that it's best not to be reactionary after a bad result or below par performance.

To be clear, the OP said "no chance" of top two. Which is provably wrong, even if we happen to fail come end of season, clearly there was and is a pretty good chance given we are there already.

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Not a chance of top 2 on 00:00 - Jan 3 with 451 viewsVaughan8

Not a chance of top 2 on 18:33 - Jan 2 by Herbivore

I'm sure you're a sharp enough cookie to see the difference between saying if we don't sort out an issue we won't go up and saying we have no chance of making the top 2.


There is a difference, you're correct. However, at the same point in time, you needed something to change in order for us to make the top 2.

So you were pretty much saying if we carried on, we wouldn't make the top 2. Which you could argue the OP at the time was basically saying, if things stay the same, we have no chance of the top 2.

You can split hairs, I knew you would, but you both had similar concerns at a similar time.
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Not a chance of top 2 on 00:00 - Jan 3 with 447 viewsKropotkin123

Not a chance of top 2 on 22:55 - Jan 2 by baxterbasics

I think it's fair game to bump this one.

It's always worth highlighting when defeatist, negative doom-mongers are wrong.

It might serve as a helpful reminder to some that it's best not to be reactionary after a bad result or below par performance.

To be clear, the OP said "no chance" of top two. Which is provably wrong, even if we happen to fail come end of season, clearly there was and is a pretty good chance given we are there already.


To be clear, the OP said "no chance" of top two. Which is provably wrong, even if we happen to fail come end of season, clearly there was and is a pretty good chance given we are there already.

I agree with this part.

While I do find calling out the persistently negative people funny. I do also find it a bit tedious. Not as tedious as the posts the first time around though.
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Not a chance of top 2 on 00:20 - Jan 3 with 405 viewsHerbivore

Not a chance of top 2 on 00:00 - Jan 3 by Vaughan8

There is a difference, you're correct. However, at the same point in time, you needed something to change in order for us to make the top 2.

So you were pretty much saying if we carried on, we wouldn't make the top 2. Which you could argue the OP at the time was basically saying, if things stay the same, we have no chance of the top 2.

You can split hairs, I knew you would, but you both had similar concerns at a similar time.


There is indeed a difference. You probably should have stopped there rather than wanging on about splitting hairs and trying to make out there isn't a difference. One post allows for nuance and debate and recognises things might change, the other is absolutist negative drivel that has proven to be completely inaccurate.

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Not a chance of top 2 on 00:46 - Jan 3 with 387 viewsthepommylump

Not a chance of top 2 on 19:21 - Jan 2 by MK1

I'm an old man. I have my mates. I don't consider anybody on here a mate. I found his reply insulting, so gave it its due response. Not hard, just don't like people calling me mate when they have never met me.


MK1 You wouldn’t last long in Australia 😀
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Not a chance of top 2 on 07:46 - Jan 3 with 282 viewsMK1

Not a chance of top 2 on 00:46 - Jan 3 by thepommylump

MK1 You wouldn’t last long in Australia 😀


Good job I live in the New Forest then.

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Not a chance of top 2 on 14:33 - Jan 3 with 138 viewsbaxterbasics

Not a chance of top 2 on 07:46 - Jan 3 by MK1

Good job I live in the New Forest then.


You’re not Mark Kermode are you?

He lives there and you’ve got his initials in your username.

However, by his admission he does not understand nor care about football. So unlikely.

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Not a chance of top 2 on 15:00 - Jan 3 with 111 viewsCafe_Newman

Not a chance of top 2 on 17:01 - Jan 2 by GlasgowBlue

Do these threads need bumping herbs? Seen somebody doing the same with Furlong earlier. It's unnecessary. If we fail to finish in the top 2 will you bump it agains? Doubtful.

As it is, I've been consistent in my belief that we will be promoted in the automatic places. Although I stuck my neck out a little further and said it would be as Champions. I stand by that. But I'm not going to lnk all those posts in a game of willy waving.

Football is about opinions. In the grand scheme of life, opinions on whether a football team will be top 2 or not are way down the list. Agree or disagree with those options at the time rather than dragging them up weeks or months later.


It's easy and tempting to make others on a footy forum look silly, but do it too often, you run the risk of coming across as a bit of an insecure tossa.
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Not a chance of top 2 on 15:22 - Jan 3 with 75 viewsBenters

Not a chance of top 2 on 18:09 - Jan 2 by Vaughan8

You posted this at half time of the game (Leicester away) before this orginal thread was made:

Poor half by Herbivore 13 Dec 2025 15:55
Been really poor from both teams, they've just scored two ridiculous goals out of nowhere. Clarke really has to do better with the one big chance we've created. That goes in and I'd have fancied us to kick on. Unless we improve significantly after the break I can't see a way back in this one. Frustrating that we can't seem to get our home and away form clicking at the same time. If we can't sort that out, the autos aren't going to be achievable.



Seems to me you "kinda" doubted the autos at the same time too.
[Post edited 2 Jan 18:10]


Yeah but..

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