| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known 09:07 - Dec 14 with 1642 views | CopfordBlue |
Through most of my adult life. Not the great teams I grew up watching, not the briefly excellent teams of the early 90’s early 00’s, not the depressingly low standard of the teams through most of the ME era or the fantastic team we have seen recently.
Most of us knew what was coming yesterday. Its the type of result and performance we’ve become used to in the last 40 or so years. It feels as if after the lows of the Evans years and the highs of 22-24, the status quo has returned. I’m resigned to either just missing out of the play offs or a play off semi-final defeat. Getting beaten by the likes of Accrington in league one isn’t what we’re about but then nor are injury time winners in 5 goal thrillers or picking up crucial away wins in a promotion race. I hated the years we were in decline, the upsurge when McKenna joined was incredible but never really felt sustainable. It feels we’re back in our rightful place. [Post edited 14 Dec 9:08]
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 09:30 - Dec 14 with 1288 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
That's a good perspective.
I fully expect us to finish in the play-offs this season, which obviously we may or may not win.
But whatever happens, under our current ownership, we're lucky to be following an ambitious club. There are more than 20 ambitious clubs in England and Wales, so not every ambitious club can be in the PL.
Overall I'm just grateful that I don't support a club with sh*t owners and accept that mistakes will (and have) been made. | | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 09:57 - Dec 14 with 1227 views | waveneyblue |
I recently said exactly the same to a mate.
We've gone back to being Ipswich, albeit Ipswich with money, which is probably why so many lose their collective sh1t everytime we lose. |  | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 10:00 - Dec 14 with 1205 views | ITFCSG |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 09:57 - Dec 14 by waveneyblue |
I recently said exactly the same to a mate.
We've gone back to being Ipswich, albeit Ipswich with money, which is probably why so many lose their collective sh1t everytime we lose. |
Precisely, why throw good money away to feed rival clubs and useless players?
Might as well donate it to charity.
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 10:35 - Dec 14 with 1142 views | billabasblue |
Have we ever had financial backing the size that we currently have now at any point in that period ?
Sorry but money changes the goal posts if you constantly have bucket loads of money to spend every window and continue to buy flops then that is why we are where we are ! We should be aiming for much higher now and be looking to become an established premier league side forever not what we are now. | | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:27 - Dec 14 with 1082 views | waveneyblue |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 10:35 - Dec 14 by billabasblue |
Have we ever had financial backing the size that we currently have now at any point in that period ?
Sorry but money changes the goal posts if you constantly have bucket loads of money to spend every window and continue to buy flops then that is why we are where we are ! We should be aiming for much higher now and be looking to become an established premier league side forever not what we are now. |
How long have you followed football?
Im asking because unless its been less than a fortnight, im sure you would realise that having a load of money (relatively speaking) does not guarantee success. | | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:44 - Dec 14 with 1048 views | BouncebackIpswich |
Fair enough but doesn't that kind of attitude stifle any ambition of becoming better?
Being traditionally lower league hasn't stopped Brighton and Bournemouth from becoming established PL clubs
You have to grab these opportunities when they come and stay on the ride for as long as possible. I dare say Ipswich are doing a poor job of grabbing the opportunity as of now and promotion should absolutely be the aim of this season |  | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:54 - Dec 14 with 1034 views | DinnernotTea |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:27 - Dec 14 by waveneyblue |
How long have you followed football?
Im asking because unless its been less than a fortnight, im sure you would realise that having a load of money (relatively speaking) does not guarantee success. |
Whilst that's true, I'd imagine we would hold the record for most spent to points gained in second tier history. This may change by May but unlikely.
Walle at £17m
O'Shea at £15m
Greaves at £15m
McAteer at £12m
Clarke at £20m
Philogene at £20m
It makes me shudder and my blood boil in equal measure. | |
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:59 - Dec 14 with 1025 views | CopfordBlue |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:44 - Dec 14 by BouncebackIpswich |
Fair enough but doesn't that kind of attitude stifle any ambition of becoming better?
Being traditionally lower league hasn't stopped Brighton and Bournemouth from becoming established PL clubs
You have to grab these opportunities when they come and stay on the ride for as long as possible. I dare say Ipswich are doing a poor job of grabbing the opportunity as of now and promotion should absolutely be the aim of this season |
My attitude towards my team has no impact, or at least not a negative one. Moaning, groaning and criticising which is the approach an increasing number of fans seem to have won’t improve matters either.
I’m lucky enough to have seen us win trophies, play in Europe, win a play off final at Wembley and so on. There were times a few years ago when I doubted I’d ever see us with a full stadium or even in the top half of the championship again. 22/23 and 23/24 were the most enjoyable I’ve ever had watching town. If the trade off is that we achieved too much, too quickly and now have a period of adjustment I’m ok with that.
Maybe if I was younger I’d have a different outlook but competing for the play offs, a modernised stadium, a new generation of fans (far less under 12s with us as a “second team” it seems these days) are huge positives. I just don’t like the sense of ‘now or never’ ‘we’ll never get a better chance’ etc and the sense of entitlement amongst a growing number of our fans winds me up. | |
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 12:04 - Dec 14 with 992 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:59 - Dec 14 by CopfordBlue |
My attitude towards my team has no impact, or at least not a negative one. Moaning, groaning and criticising which is the approach an increasing number of fans seem to have won’t improve matters either.
I’m lucky enough to have seen us win trophies, play in Europe, win a play off final at Wembley and so on. There were times a few years ago when I doubted I’d ever see us with a full stadium or even in the top half of the championship again. 22/23 and 23/24 were the most enjoyable I’ve ever had watching town. If the trade off is that we achieved too much, too quickly and now have a period of adjustment I’m ok with that.
Maybe if I was younger I’d have a different outlook but competing for the play offs, a modernised stadium, a new generation of fans (far less under 12s with us as a “second team” it seems these days) are huge positives. I just don’t like the sense of ‘now or never’ ‘we’ll never get a better chance’ etc and the sense of entitlement amongst a growing number of our fans winds me up. |
That makes sense. No doubt this is much better than the majority of the Evans era and a club like Ipswich can't expect success.
I think there's a difference between being entitled and wanting success though, if that makes sense?
I'm in my mid 30s and most of this lifetime Ipswich have been a bog standard Championship club whilst other bog standard Championship clubs have had their moments in the sun and I do think that when you get the chance to kick on you've really got to take it and so far the clubs done a poor job which is where the frustration in the fanbase comes from. [Post edited 14 Dec 12:06]
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 12:48 - Dec 14 with 917 views | DJR |
Agree entirely with the OP, and I was certainly spoilt by the fact that my watching Town coincided with the Robson reign, with my first game being a week or so after he became manager.
At that time, I never though First Division football would ever end. [Post edited 14 Dec 12:52]
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 12:48 - Dec 14 with 906 views | ITFC_Forever |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:54 - Dec 14 by DinnernotTea |
Whilst that's true, I'd imagine we would hold the record for most spent to points gained in second tier history. This may change by May but unlikely.
Walle at £17m
O'Shea at £15m
Greaves at £15m
McAteer at £12m
Clarke at £20m
Philogene at £20m
It makes me shudder and my blood boil in equal measure. |
And all except McAteer have shown their quality, albeit not as consistently as we’d like.
And as KMc said, if we’re suddenly going to start writing people off after half a dozen games, then it’s not a good look. |  |
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 13:35 - Dec 14 with 854 views | waveneyblue |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:54 - Dec 14 by DinnernotTea |
Whilst that's true, I'd imagine we would hold the record for most spent to points gained in second tier history. This may change by May but unlikely.
Walle at £17m
O'Shea at £15m
Greaves at £15m
McAteer at £12m
Clarke at £20m
Philogene at £20m
It makes me shudder and my blood boil in equal measure. |
You should take lessons in relaxation then. | | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 14:34 - Dec 14 with 770 views | DinnernotTea |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 13:35 - Dec 14 by waveneyblue |
You should take lessons in relaxation then. |
A penny for the thoughts of Ashton & the owners. Ashton's genius plan of ripping up the class of 2024 for players with "higher ceilings."
In December 2025 not a single player in that bracket will be going for more than we spent, thus a huge loss to the club. If you aren't bothered about that then big respect. But I very much doubt we have a lot left from the original Prem war chest.
But at least he walks around the training ground with a coffee. | |
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 15:25 - Dec 14 with 700 views | ITFCSG |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 12:48 - Dec 14 by ITFC_Forever |
And all except McAteer have shown their quality, albeit not as consistently as we’d like.
And as KMc said, if we’re suddenly going to start writing people off after half a dozen games, then it’s not a good look. |
Really.
Probably only Sindre has so far looked promising, given his age - maybe PL quality in time to come
O'Shea, Clarke and Philogene shows flashes of brilliance at times but they blow hot and cold. On a good day they can hold their own in the Prem but on other days they are powder puff and anonymous. £55 million for the three of them is insane especially if you look at what our rivals are paying for similar (or better) players. How much did Sunderland spend to get players streets ahead of what we got? How much did Fellows and Azaz cost?
Greaves probably isn't worth half of what we paid for him now. Bog standard lower Champ defender especially after his injury.
McAteer, I don't even think any other club will pay £1.2 million for him.
Half a dozen games? O'Shea, J Clarke, Philogene, Greaves have a full (or close to, for Philogene) season with us!
We have been ripped off massively. [Post edited 14 Dec 15:30]
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 15:30 - Dec 14 with 673 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
This is a bit of a cope post, you’ve never know Ipswich with money in the modern PL era. We need to get promoted in the next two years and not mess up the opportunity to establish. |  |
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 15:41 - Dec 14 with 616 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 10:35 - Dec 14 by billabasblue |
Have we ever had financial backing the size that we currently have now at any point in that period ?
Sorry but money changes the goal posts if you constantly have bucket loads of money to spend every window and continue to buy flops then that is why we are where we are ! We should be aiming for much higher now and be looking to become an established premier league side forever not what we are now. |
Exactly, just the usual passive acceptance that’s fairly prevalent around here. We’re kind of ok it’s better than it was a few years ago stuff.
This guy has always resigned himself to losing and not getting promoted. | |
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 15:46 - Dec 14 with 584 views | waveneyblue |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 15:41 - Dec 14 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
Exactly, just the usual passive acceptance that’s fairly prevalent around here. We’re kind of ok it’s better than it was a few years ago stuff.
This guy has always resigned himself to losing and not getting promoted. |
Or maybe he doesn't act like an entitled child on a message board.
Imagine that, oh sorry, you cant | | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 15:51 - Dec 14 with 566 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 15:46 - Dec 14 by waveneyblue |
Or maybe he doesn't act like an entitled child on a message board.
Imagine that, oh sorry, you cant |
Nothing entitled about it, the ownership group will have a lot more ambitions than considering this our rightful place and making peace with being a Championship club.
We are one of the most expensive squads in EFL history. It’s a huge two seasons for the club with parachute money and we need to take the opportunity. | |
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 15:56 - Dec 14 with 542 views | backwaywhen |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:59 - Dec 14 by CopfordBlue |
My attitude towards my team has no impact, or at least not a negative one. Moaning, groaning and criticising which is the approach an increasing number of fans seem to have won’t improve matters either.
I’m lucky enough to have seen us win trophies, play in Europe, win a play off final at Wembley and so on. There were times a few years ago when I doubted I’d ever see us with a full stadium or even in the top half of the championship again. 22/23 and 23/24 were the most enjoyable I’ve ever had watching town. If the trade off is that we achieved too much, too quickly and now have a period of adjustment I’m ok with that.
Maybe if I was younger I’d have a different outlook but competing for the play offs, a modernised stadium, a new generation of fans (far less under 12s with us as a “second team” it seems these days) are huge positives. I just don’t like the sense of ‘now or never’ ‘we’ll never get a better chance’ etc and the sense of entitlement amongst a growing number of our fans winds me up. |
Reply of the season ……well said and equally well worded . | | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 15:58 - Dec 14 with 528 views | backwaywhen |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 12:04 - Dec 14 by BouncebackIpswich |
That makes sense. No doubt this is much better than the majority of the Evans era and a club like Ipswich can't expect success.
I think there's a difference between being entitled and wanting success though, if that makes sense?
I'm in my mid 30s and most of this lifetime Ipswich have been a bog standard Championship club whilst other bog standard Championship clubs have had their moments in the sun and I do think that when you get the chance to kick on you've really got to take it and so far the clubs done a poor job which is where the frustration in the fanbase comes from. [Post edited 14 Dec 12:06]
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Entitlement right there ? | | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 16:01 - Dec 14 with 516 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:59 - Dec 14 by CopfordBlue |
My attitude towards my team has no impact, or at least not a negative one. Moaning, groaning and criticising which is the approach an increasing number of fans seem to have won’t improve matters either.
I’m lucky enough to have seen us win trophies, play in Europe, win a play off final at Wembley and so on. There were times a few years ago when I doubted I’d ever see us with a full stadium or even in the top half of the championship again. 22/23 and 23/24 were the most enjoyable I’ve ever had watching town. If the trade off is that we achieved too much, too quickly and now have a period of adjustment I’m ok with that.
Maybe if I was younger I’d have a different outlook but competing for the play offs, a modernised stadium, a new generation of fans (far less under 12s with us as a “second team” it seems these days) are huge positives. I just don’t like the sense of ‘now or never’ ‘we’ll never get a better chance’ etc and the sense of entitlement amongst a growing number of our fans winds me up. |
So you saw the good old days so you’re not that bothered about now basically? [Post edited 14 Dec 16:05]
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 16:04 - Dec 14 with 492 views | jasondozzell |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 11:59 - Dec 14 by CopfordBlue |
My attitude towards my team has no impact, or at least not a negative one. Moaning, groaning and criticising which is the approach an increasing number of fans seem to have won’t improve matters either.
I’m lucky enough to have seen us win trophies, play in Europe, win a play off final at Wembley and so on. There were times a few years ago when I doubted I’d ever see us with a full stadium or even in the top half of the championship again. 22/23 and 23/24 were the most enjoyable I’ve ever had watching town. If the trade off is that we achieved too much, too quickly and now have a period of adjustment I’m ok with that.
Maybe if I was younger I’d have a different outlook but competing for the play offs, a modernised stadium, a new generation of fans (far less under 12s with us as a “second team” it seems these days) are huge positives. I just don’t like the sense of ‘now or never’ ‘we’ll never get a better chance’ etc and the sense of entitlement amongst a growing number of our fans winds me up. |
Superb post. |  | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 16:05 - Dec 14 with 491 views | waveneyblue |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 16:01 - Dec 14 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
So you saw the good old days so you’re not that bothered about now basically? [Post edited 14 Dec 16:05]
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What a stupid response. Its not remotely what he is saying. | | | |
| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 16:13 - Dec 14 with 451 views | NthQldITFC |
'I’m resigned to either just missing out of the play offs or a play off semi-final defeat'
Pull yourself together man/woman. |  |
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| We’re now back to being the Ipswich I’ve known on 16:30 - Dec 14 with 388 views | Vaughan8 |
Whilst I understand what the OP is saying, it's not really comparable to many years in the last 20 if not more.
Whether you acknowledge it or not, we are one of the "big boys" now in the league in terms of money.
We've spend a load of money and really should be in the top 6 with the players and manager we have.
What I've gathered this season is no team is really that good. Therefore a bit of quality should go a long way.
If it makes you feel better to dumb down what we should be achieving then that's fine, but it's not the reality.
Not being in the top 6 this season is a failure, a lot like if Chelsea(other teams are available) aren't in the top 6 of the Premier league. | | | |
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