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Ogbene 10:35 - Dec 28 with 2710 viewsZx1988

Given the claims by Alan Nixon that Chieo isn't in Wilder's plans, what do we reckon Town's stance is?

He looked decent for Eire a couple of months back, and would be a step up on a clearly-deflated McAteer. But, with Burns back and Sindre looking good (notwithstanding the suggestion that he's bound for the 10 role), I can see that MA and KMc might not see him in their plans either.

Could Chieo play for another club this season? Or, if we don't want him, is it more likely to be a case of holding Sheffield to the terms of the original loan?

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Ogbene on 10:40 - Dec 28 with 2173 viewsZx1988

As a thought.

If Sindre could solve our 10 problem, then I'd be more than happy (assuming Burns is still Burns) to see a pairing of Burns and Ogbene in the RW position, with McAteer taking a more withdrawn role to allow him to recover his confidence.

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Ogbene on 10:42 - Dec 28 with 2140 viewsStokieBlue

Ogbene on 10:40 - Dec 28 by Zx1988

As a thought.

If Sindre could solve our 10 problem, then I'd be more than happy (assuming Burns is still Burns) to see a pairing of Burns and Ogbene in the RW position, with McAteer taking a more withdrawn role to allow him to recover his confidence.


Realistically can we have him back and buy the players we need in January and be able to register them all?

Seen lots of posts about getting players in but we are at the squad limit now, can't see us registering 3/4 right wingers.

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Ogbene on 10:44 - Dec 28 with 2107 viewsitfcsuth

I like Cheio as a Championship option, whenever I’ve seen him for Ireland he looks a real threat.

However given it would currently leave us with 4 RW, in addition to 4 RB, it just adds to current unbalance in the squad.
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Ogbene on 10:46 - Dec 28 with 2089 viewsHighgateBlue

Ogbene on 10:40 - Dec 28 by Zx1988

As a thought.

If Sindre could solve our 10 problem, then I'd be more than happy (assuming Burns is still Burns) to see a pairing of Burns and Ogbene in the RW position, with McAteer taking a more withdrawn role to allow him to recover his confidence.


If Burns is still Burns, then we've just acquired an additional RW option, and we surely have no need to recall Ogbene. And if he's not in his current manager's plans, I don't see why he'd be good enough to usurp what we have at Town.

The main point of agreement though is that whoever we have, and whoever we recall, all of them would be ahead of McAteer.

The reason for that is up for much more debate. Attributing it all to confidence is to show a seasonal generosity of spirit of which Santa would be proud. But I would love that to be the sole cause of McAteer's total lack of contribution thus far.
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Ogbene on 10:54 - Dec 28 with 2025 viewssouthnorfolkblue

I suspect he’ll have to kick his heels at United as he’s clearly not part of our plans for the season. He cant play for any other club bar us and United. The only way he comes back here is if we offload one of the existing RW options. That can’t be Mcateer (unless Leicester would have him back), so the only realistic option would be Wes.

Personally I’d rather have a fully fit Wes, but whether he will be the same player after that horrendous injury remains to be seen.

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Ogbene on 10:59 - Dec 28 with 1982 viewsGlasgowBlue

Ogbene on 10:42 - Dec 28 by StokieBlue

Realistically can we have him back and buy the players we need in January and be able to register them all?

Seen lots of posts about getting players in but we are at the squad limit now, can't see us registering 3/4 right wingers.

SB


Me neither but we registered 4 right backs.

I think that Johnson, H Clarke, Baggot and Humphreys go this window, whether on loan or permanently. If we get in a midfielder I wouldn't be surprised to see Jack Taylor go. Probably one more who we aren't even thinking about.

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Ogbene on 11:01 - Dec 28 with 1959 viewsZx1988

Ogbene on 10:42 - Dec 28 by StokieBlue

Realistically can we have him back and buy the players we need in January and be able to register them all?

Seen lots of posts about getting players in but we are at the squad limit now, can't see us registering 3/4 right wingers.

SB


There are certainly 'savings' to be made in the squad:

Humphreys - Loan
Baggott - Loan
H Clarke - Permanent
Johnson - Permanent
Button - Deregister (a third pro keeper feels a luxury, and a role that should be filled by a youngster)

Those five would allow for a striker, CDM, and a 10, whilst still allowing two further flexible places, if I've got my understanding right.

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Ogbene on 11:06 - Dec 28 with 1915 viewsfranz_tyson

Can't he play for another club outside of England? Maybe even Scotland?
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Ogbene on 11:07 - Dec 28 with 1904 viewssouthnorfolkblue

Ogbene on 11:01 - Dec 28 by Zx1988

There are certainly 'savings' to be made in the squad:

Humphreys - Loan
Baggott - Loan
H Clarke - Permanent
Johnson - Permanent
Button - Deregister (a third pro keeper feels a luxury, and a role that should be filled by a youngster)

Those five would allow for a striker, CDM, and a 10, whilst still allowing two further flexible places, if I've got my understanding right.


Johnson will be very difficult to shift without taking a significant financial hit imho

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Ogbene on 11:12 - Dec 28 with 1872 viewsRadlett_blue

He hasn't played for anyone else other than the Blunts so we could take him back (I doubt he'd get much game time) try to sell him or loan him elsewhere or insist that the Blunts keep him. I believe there is no recall clause in the loan agreement.

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Ogbene on 11:15 - Dec 28 with 1839 viewsStokieBlue

Ogbene on 11:01 - Dec 28 by Zx1988

There are certainly 'savings' to be made in the squad:

Humphreys - Loan
Baggott - Loan
H Clarke - Permanent
Johnson - Permanent
Button - Deregister (a third pro keeper feels a luxury, and a role that should be filled by a youngster)

Those five would allow for a striker, CDM, and a 10, whilst still allowing two further flexible places, if I've got my understanding right.


Not sure who is going to pay Johnsons wages on a perm but could see him moving on if we can find someone.

I guess we could also go for someone younger like Egeli who wouldn't need to be registered.

Definitely need to move some on though.

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Ogbene on 11:16 - Dec 28 with 1830 viewsStokieBlue

Ogbene on 11:12 - Dec 28 by Radlett_blue

He hasn't played for anyone else other than the Blunts so we could take him back (I doubt he'd get much game time) try to sell him or loan him elsewhere or insist that the Blunts keep him. I believe there is no recall clause in the loan agreement.


In Phil's article:

"However, having played for both Town and the South Yorkshiremen this season, Ogbene cannot play for a third club in 2025/26."

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Ogbene on 11:22 - Dec 28 with 1794 viewssouthnorfolkblue

Ogbene on 11:12 - Dec 28 by Radlett_blue

He hasn't played for anyone else other than the Blunts so we could take him back (I doubt he'd get much game time) try to sell him or loan him elsewhere or insist that the Blunts keep him. I believe there is no recall clause in the loan agreement.


According to the TWTD report hes played for us this season although tbh I can’t remember when

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Ogbene on 11:22 - Dec 28 with 1788 viewsPinewoodblue

All this talk of removing players from the 25 man squad must be having an impact in much the same way our summer signings disrupted the squad.

There must be too many players in the current squad wondering what the future holds. It isn’t good with regard to creating togetherness.

We need to do our talking on the pitch, starting tomorrow evening. Those fortunate to be going to Coventry this evening need to get behind every town player on the pitch and make a difference. No singling out players for abuse.

Edited following prompt by Beckinsale. Bad enough to keep track of what day it is over Christmas / New Year without a full match programme on what for most is a working day.
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Ogbene on 11:23 - Dec 28 with 1766 viewsMrBeckinsale

Ogbene on 11:22 - Dec 28 by southnorfolkblue

According to the TWTD report hes played for us this season although tbh I can’t remember when


Started against Birmingham (and Bromley) and was a used sub against Southampton.
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Ogbene on 11:25 - Dec 28 with 1736 viewsMrBeckinsale

Ogbene on 11:22 - Dec 28 by Pinewoodblue

All this talk of removing players from the 25 man squad must be having an impact in much the same way our summer signings disrupted the squad.

There must be too many players in the current squad wondering what the future holds. It isn’t good with regard to creating togetherness.

We need to do our talking on the pitch, starting tomorrow evening. Those fortunate to be going to Coventry this evening need to get behind every town player on the pitch and make a difference. No singling out players for abuse.

Edited following prompt by Beckinsale. Bad enough to keep track of what day it is over Christmas / New Year without a full match programme on what for most is a working day.
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I think more will be likely to be going there tomorrow evening.
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Ogbene on 11:26 - Dec 28 with 1720 viewsRadlett_blue

Ogbene on 11:22 - Dec 28 by southnorfolkblue

According to the TWTD report hes played for us this season although tbh I can’t remember when


Aah - he played 71 minutes in the League Cup at Bromley. I guess that's why there's no recall clause. So he can kick his heels in Sheffield or we can take him back. Can't see there's much of a role for him here.

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Ogbene on 11:28 - Dec 28 with 1700 viewsMrBeckinsale

Ogbene on 11:26 - Dec 28 by Radlett_blue

Aah - he played 71 minutes in the League Cup at Bromley. I guess that's why there's no recall clause. So he can kick his heels in Sheffield or we can take him back. Can't see there's much of a role for him here.


And league appearances against Birmingham (68 mins) and Southampton (came on 72 mins)
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Ogbene on 11:37 - Dec 28 with 1620 viewsJohn_Warks_Willy

I’d take him back in a heartbeat.

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Ogbene on 11:45 - Dec 28 with 1551 viewsGarv

If McAteer could find a good loan it could happen, but it's a risk. Ogbene is injury prone and McAteer is fit most weeks (and not as bad as made out).

Also, I keep seeing that Walle Egeli is 'looking good' but I'm not totally convinced of that yet. A few year's time yes, but if he's first choice for the rest of the season I'll feel a bit uneasy.

We're asking so much of Philogene and Clarke for goals.

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Ogbene on 11:50 - Dec 28 with 1510 viewsZx1988

Ogbene on 11:45 - Dec 28 by Garv

If McAteer could find a good loan it could happen, but it's a risk. Ogbene is injury prone and McAteer is fit most weeks (and not as bad as made out).

Also, I keep seeing that Walle Egeli is 'looking good' but I'm not totally convinced of that yet. A few year's time yes, but if he's first choice for the rest of the season I'll feel a bit uneasy.

We're asking so much of Philogene and Clarke for goals.


The only loan McAteer could get would be to Leicester.

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Ogbene on 11:50 - Dec 28 with 1508 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

I’d have him back as a squad option I suppose. Think he’s ahead of Egeli and Mcateer right now. Hopefully Burns can ramp his minutes up and contribute as well.

Personally I’d like us to sign a RW. Get someone on loan from the prem who gives us a bit of pace and dynamism on the right hand side.

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Ogbene on 11:54 - Dec 28 with 1448 viewssouthnorfolkblue

Ogbene on 11:50 - Dec 28 by Zx1988

The only loan McAteer could get would be to Leicester.


So in practice it would have to be Wes that would have to make way for him. I have seen nothing to suggest that hes better than Wes, but clearly the jury has to be out on whether Wes will be the same player after his injury

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Ogbene on 12:08 - Dec 28 with 1331 viewsStokieBlue

Ogbene on 11:50 - Dec 28 by TRUE_BLUE123

I’d have him back as a squad option I suppose. Think he’s ahead of Egeli and Mcateer right now. Hopefully Burns can ramp his minutes up and contribute as well.

Personally I’d like us to sign a RW. Get someone on loan from the prem who gives us a bit of pace and dynamism on the right hand side.


I don't see him as being ahead of Egeli. McKenna didn't think he was good enough for a place and now Wilder doesn't think he is good enough.

We need to persist with Egeli or move him central, the upside is just so much better over the longer term.

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Ogbene on 12:14 - Dec 28 with 1305 viewsitfcjoe

Ogbene on 12:08 - Dec 28 by StokieBlue

I don't see him as being ahead of Egeli. McKenna didn't think he was good enough for a place and now Wilder doesn't think he is good enough.

We need to persist with Egeli or move him central, the upside is just so much better over the longer term.

SB


The fact we let him go to, what at the time, would presumed to have been a promotion rival, with no recall in January probably tells you all you need to know as to how he is rated at Portman Road

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