| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable 10:31 - Feb 2 with 4472 views | IP1Blue |
If we don’t sign a striker, that is borderline unforgivable which as it stands is looking likely!
We knew Liam Delap was leaving from March last year when we let him start taking to other clubs around the country.
Ivan Azon we only signed in the last week of the summer window (after turning the deal down earlier on in the window) as we failed to sign anyone else.
To now go through 2 consecutive windows without signing a quality striker is borderline unforgivable especially if we don’t end up going up. |  | | |  |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:08 - Feb 2 with 659 views | itfcsuth |
I don't think you can say we've gone through two windows - going into the season with Hirst (former promotion winner), Akpom (former golden boot winner), and Azon as your striking options looked on the face of it strong - the fact that none have been able to consistently perform or deliver was unforeseeable in the summer.
But, as the situation has progressed over the season, it really didn't take a genius to see that our striker performances across the board have been a real failure in the side.
Not the summer, but to go through this window without bringing in a striker is a real failure. |  | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:11 - Feb 2 with 634 views | itfcsuth |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:53 - Feb 2 by JakeITFC |
Maybe there just aren't many good strikers about - in previous times we might be in for a forward struggling for form at Prem level like Strand Larsen, instead now he goes for £50m because there is so few premium number 9s.
I honestly still feel in Hirst, Azon and Akpom we have the best strikeforce in the league. |
'There aren't good strikers about' is such a cop out, it is possible to look beyond the pits of struggling PL strikers, there is a big wide world out there.
Wild take on our strikers here, Haji Wright and Ellis Simms have 20 goals between the 2, our trio has 10 combined. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:13 - Feb 2 with 611 views | TownieRob |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 12:41 - Feb 2 by Herbivore |
Yes, our squad is really better than it was 2 years ago. 2 years ago Kayden Jackson and Marcus Harness were getting decent minutes for us. No disrespect to either of them but they wouldn't get close to our bench now. |
Jackson any worse or less effective than Mcateer and Egeli? Harness in less effective than Akpom in the 10? I dont think so. Take away the cost and the 'name' and they are much for much. Broadhead far superior to both also. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:17 - Feb 2 with 570 views | nrb1985 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:11 - Feb 2 by itfcsuth |
'There aren't good strikers about' is such a cop out, it is possible to look beyond the pits of struggling PL strikers, there is a big wide world out there.
Wild take on our strikers here, Haji Wright and Ellis Simms have 20 goals between the 2, our trio has 10 combined. |
This is a dreadful take.
Yes there are plenty out there but how many strikers are guaranteed to come in and hit the ground running? Which is what we need.
You mention Simms - go have a look at how well he did in his first season for example. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:21 - Feb 2 with 552 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 12:04 - Feb 2 by portmanking |
If we finish third and fail in the playoffs, Kieran won't be here. Not because we fire him, but because he moves on to bigger and better things. *That* alone is why it's imperative we back him with the tools needed to get out of the division.
Hirst and Azon's inexplicable lack of clinical finishing means the margins have to fall our way with moments of magic elsewhere, rather than depending on a striker to put away solid xG opportunities.
It's also worth reading this: https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/2
McKenna's vocal nature about mentioning 3 wasted big chances at Sheff Utd. He's not normally so publicly critical. He knows we're not at it in the final third. The fact we offered contracts to Bamford and Wilson prove he's not happy. We need to be creative and find a solution this afternoon. [Post edited 2 Feb 12:17]
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We just need a striker that can take chances. I'd forego some of the stylistic wants if we could get someone with clever movement who can get on the end of chances. Especially needed against low block teams where we don't have space in behind.
I do wonder how many plates we have spinning as it stands. At this sort of notice you would think an option from outside the UK is unlikely unless we have been working on it quietly for a few days. [Post edited 2 Feb 13:21]
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:33 - Feb 2 with 501 views | itfcsuth |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:17 - Feb 2 by nrb1985 |
This is a dreadful take.
Yes there are plenty out there but how many strikers are guaranteed to come in and hit the ground running? Which is what we need.
You mention Simms - go have a look at how well he did in his first season for example. |
I struggle to see how two strikers who have scored double the amount as the trio of ours is a dreadful take, that seems very odd to me. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:39 - Feb 2 with 466 views | pointofblue |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:13 - Feb 2 by TownieRob |
Jackson any worse or less effective than Mcateer and Egeli? Harness in less effective than Akpom in the 10? I dont think so. Take away the cost and the 'name' and they are much for much. Broadhead far superior to both also. |
And this is the risk of spending big on someone. On paper they should be an upgrade. Will they be on the pitch? | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:50 - Feb 2 with 437 views | nrb1985 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:33 - Feb 2 by itfcsuth |
I struggle to see how two strikers who have scored double the amount as the trio of ours is a dreadful take, that seems very odd to me. |
why don't you try engaging with the points I've raised rather than skirting round them. | | | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 14:01 - Feb 2 with 407 views | Herbivore |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:13 - Feb 2 by TownieRob |
Jackson any worse or less effective than Mcateer and Egeli? Harness in less effective than Akpom in the 10? I dont think so. Take away the cost and the 'name' and they are much for much. Broadhead far superior to both also. |
The comparison for Broadhead is Clarke or Philogene, both of whom are significant upgrades. Jackson and Harness are now playing in the lower leagues. They hit their ceiling with us and at their ceiling they were worse players than our current squad options, yes. |  |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 14:04 - Feb 2 with 384 views | pointofblue |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:17 - Feb 2 by nrb1985 |
This is a dreadful take.
Yes there are plenty out there but how many strikers are guaranteed to come in and hit the ground running? Which is what we need.
You mention Simms - go have a look at how well he did in his first season for example. |
No player is guaranteed to hit the ground running. But is there more of a chance of that than Hirst suddenly becoming a lethal finisher, or Azon suddenly scoring more than missing? | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 09:06 - Feb 3 with 273 views | nrb1985 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 14:04 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
No player is guaranteed to hit the ground running. But is there more of a chance of that than Hirst suddenly becoming a lethal finisher, or Azon suddenly scoring more than missing? |
Don't agree. But I'll give you the opportunity to prove me wrong.
Let's assume domestic options have been exhausted - and looking around there was no Kiefer Moore style obvious solution.
So, with that, and so that we have a reasonable sample size, can you give me 5 strikers from overseas who have come to the championship in the last 5 years, hit the ground running and scored 10-12 goals in their first 3 months of a season?
Even somebody like Ellis Simms who was as sure as a sure thing could be took a long while to get going.
Hirst you can at least say has done it and can do it at this level. A coin toss if he re discovers that at some point this season though. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 09:38 - Feb 3 with 241 views | LeoMuff |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:33 - Feb 2 by itfcsuth |
I struggle to see how two strikers who have scored double the amount as the trio of ours is a dreadful take, that seems very odd to me. |
It’s because those two strikers won’t be sold to us, as per almost every striker in the championship and UK. Either no championship club will sell as they are our rivals, and prem players don’t want to come.
We could drop £10m on a random from Europe but they may or may not be any good ala the Budgies.
The pool of available strikers who will hit the ground running was probably 5 give or take and they didn’t want to come for various reasons |  |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 09:50 - Feb 3 with 220 views | Herbivore |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:39 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
And this is the risk of spending big on someone. On paper they should be an upgrade. Will they be on the pitch? |
How did Jackson do in his first season with us again? | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:04 - Feb 3 with 193 views | nrb1985 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 09:38 - Feb 3 by LeoMuff |
It’s because those two strikers won’t be sold to us, as per almost every striker in the championship and UK. Either no championship club will sell as they are our rivals, and prem players don’t want to come.
We could drop £10m on a random from Europe but they may or may not be any good ala the Budgies.
The pool of available strikers who will hit the ground running was probably 5 give or take and they didn’t want to come for various reasons |
When I read comments over last two days by ppl like itfcsuth - always reminds me of the Sunderland documentary and them paying £4m for Will Grigg on deadline day 🤣
JUST SIGN HIM, ANYONE! SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING! WHATEVER IT TAKES! | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:12 - Feb 3 with 177 views | blueoutlook |
It’s crazy. And for the club to say Kieran didn’t fancy any of the options,then on his head be it. Are they really saying there is no one better out there ? The guy from Swansea ? Ivanovic from Millwall, did we even try for them ? We certainly don’t need another winger,Im glad Millwall turned those offers down. Says a lot about our recruitment team. All that money spent on wingers and still McKenna isn’t happy with them. |  | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:16 - Feb 3 with 172 views | Whos_blue |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 13:11 - Feb 2 by itfcsuth |
'There aren't good strikers about' is such a cop out, it is possible to look beyond the pits of struggling PL strikers, there is a big wide world out there.
Wild take on our strikers here, Haji Wright and Ellis Simms have 20 goals between the 2, our trio has 10 combined. |
It's not as simple as that though is it? Wright and Simms are possibly being played in systems where the striker is the focal point and everything goes through them.
That's never been how we've played under KM.
I haven't got the time to look, but how many team goals have their respective teams scored compared to us?
It really doesn't where the goals come from does it? |  |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:22 - Feb 3 with 160 views | blueoutlook |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:16 - Feb 3 by Whos_blue |
It's not as simple as that though is it? Wright and Simms are possibly being played in systems where the striker is the focal point and everything goes through them.
That's never been how we've played under KM.
I haven't got the time to look, but how many team goals have their respective teams scored compared to us?
It really doesn't where the goals come from does it? |
I don’t think it’s so much the goals our strikers get,but the hold up play to bring others into the game and indeed score,but,and it’s a big but, Hirsty has been absolutely awful at that this season. Azon is getting better, but McKenna likes to keep swapping people in and out,so neither of them get to sharpen up their rustiness. Having said that Hirsty has missed some whoppers this season, he should be in double figures easily really. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:25 - Feb 3 with 157 views | NthQldITFC |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:16 - Feb 3 by Whos_blue |
It's not as simple as that though is it? Wright and Simms are possibly being played in systems where the striker is the focal point and everything goes through them.
That's never been how we've played under KM.
I haven't got the time to look, but how many team goals have their respective teams scored compared to us?
It really doesn't where the goals come from does it? |
That this is an obvious point that so many continually fail to grasp is continuously bewildering to me.
Hirst is not firing on all cylinders (to be kind), Azon is really starting to look the part and quite obviously adapting nicely to how we play, Akpom hasn't had much of a sniff, but has touch and strength.
We're scoring well as a team (which is the thing that counts). Two things I'd like to see from those three number 9s:
1. All of them need to attack the front post more; get across their man looking for a deft flick in around the six yard box - we don't appear to do this.
2. Hirst needs to slow his game down and get his touch back - he's trying to do everything too sharply. |  |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:31 - Feb 3 with 144 views | grow_our_own |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:53 - Feb 2 by JakeITFC |
Maybe there just aren't many good strikers about - in previous times we might be in for a forward struggling for form at Prem level like Strand Larsen, instead now he goes for £50m because there is so few premium number 9s.
I honestly still feel in Hirst, Azon and Akpom we have the best strikeforce in the league. |
This. Also we aren't an attractive prospect for a target man. Everyone knows we tend to play with inverted wingers who don't cross. Hence for years, our main goal source has been #10s behind. Coming to Ipswich likely means your goal stats will worsen. I think the rest of the season depends on one of Burns, Egeli, or McAteer coming good. Right now, we're over-dependent on LW and central-10 for goal-involvements. Often, all you need to take points off us is a decent right-back. This is why we were looking at spunking another ~£15m on RW from Millwall. [Post edited 3 Feb 10:34]
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