| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable 10:31 - Feb 2 with 4796 views | IP1Blue |
If we don’t sign a striker, that is borderline unforgivable which as it stands is looking likely!
We knew Liam Delap was leaving from March last year when we let him start taking to other clubs around the country.
Ivan Azon we only signed in the last week of the summer window (after turning the deal down earlier on in the window) as we failed to sign anyone else.
To now go through 2 consecutive windows without signing a quality striker is borderline unforgivable especially if we don’t end up going up. |  | | |  |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:15 - Feb 2 with 624 views | jasondozzell |
With respect, please try to move your analysis beyond 'we just need to get a 30 goal a season striker in here' and everything will be well, both if we are in the championship or PL next season.
Please look at history of KM's comments about strikers and the reiteration that we only want to sign players that will improve us and are right.
For many reasons it's complicated. My view is that we don't particularly need to sign a striker. If one fits then maybe but it's not the desperate last chance saloon that people make out.
I think KM would say that the team continues to improve and that there are many things we are working on to continue that improvement. |  | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:16 - Feb 2 with 618 views | IP1Blue |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:53 - Feb 2 by JakeITFC |
Maybe there just aren't many good strikers about - in previous times we might be in for a forward struggling for form at Prem level like Strand Larsen, instead now he goes for £50m because there is so few premium number 9s.
I honestly still feel in Hirst, Azon and Akpom we have the best strikeforce in the league. |
We don’t have the best strike force in the league 🤣🤣 not even sure it’s the best in east anglia to be perfectly honest!
Akpom wasn’t signed as a striker, I’m not sure why he keeps getting bought up!!! He had one good goal scoring season, that’s it in his whole career! | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:19 - Feb 2 with 585 views | Herbivore |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:59 - Feb 2 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Yep.
I had questions about Hirst going in to the season but they were around his fitness as opposed to his ability to lead the line for us. Last time we were in the champ he was really a do it all striker. He linked play, he ran in behind, was a strong box presence. It just seems to have vanished. He still works his socks off and he still finds himself in good positions but its like his quality has been zapped. That performance at Bramall Lane was a tough tough watch.
I was desperate for that one that was cleared off the line at the weekend to go in. Would have been a high quality goal that he really needs. |
His first touch for that chance was excellent and lifting it over the keeper was the right way to go. Defender read it well to be fair, I'm not sure Hirst could have done an awful lot more really, maybe a touch more power/pace with the finish but he'd done well to sort his feet out and it would have been a very high level goal to pull that off. I think it would have given him a real lift. The one he missed earlier was a poor finish. He had the confidence to take it on first time but properly mishit it. |  |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:20 - Feb 2 with 576 views | JakeITFC |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:13 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
But, as Herbivore said, it's a massive gamble hoping players who have failed to find consistent form over the last five months will suddenly manage it for the final four. |
Yeah think you could argue that with our financial advantage January is a chance to just stamp our authority on things but I echo my own point that I think we have already shopped in the top end of our potential range and so the well is pretty dry (for all positions, not just upfront). |  | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:21 - Feb 2 with 582 views | pointofblue |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:15 - Feb 2 by jasondozzell |
With respect, please try to move your analysis beyond 'we just need to get a 30 goal a season striker in here' and everything will be well, both if we are in the championship or PL next season.
Please look at history of KM's comments about strikers and the reiteration that we only want to sign players that will improve us and are right.
For many reasons it's complicated. My view is that we don't particularly need to sign a striker. If one fits then maybe but it's not the desperate last chance saloon that people make out.
I think KM would say that the team continues to improve and that there are many things we are working on to continue that improvement. |
We're eleven points off our points tally at this stage two seasons ago. Improvement on the pitch doesn't seem to be consistent, to be kind. The Preston game was a carbon copy of the Watford game. I'm not sure whether we can really say the team continues to improve, rather than staying stock still with the same issues being exposed more often than not. | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:22 - Feb 2 with 570 views | JakeITFC |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:16 - Feb 2 by IP1Blue |
We don’t have the best strike force in the league 🤣🤣 not even sure it’s the best in east anglia to be perfectly honest!
Akpom wasn’t signed as a striker, I’m not sure why he keeps getting bought up!!! He had one good goal scoring season, that’s it in his whole career! |
I'm happy to go through team for team if you like - Coventry can probably run us close but you can have a look on their forums or twitter to see what the loudmouth fans think of their forwards before we get started. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:24 - Feb 2 with 562 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:39 - Feb 2 by LeoMuff |
We are second top scorers in the league, we have plenty of goals in this side. A striker would be very helpful, but it’s not like 23/24 when our main fit striker was Kayden Jackson.
We would be ok if we don’t land one. |
Oi!!!
Let's not have any reasonable comments on here. We've no problem scoring goals, so it's abundantly clear that we must replace Hirst and bury him under the new training facility, any thing else would be a dereliction of duty and must lead to Ashtons sacking and the owners selling up to proper football blokes.
There's no room for common sense here. |  |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:24 - Feb 2 with 561 views | IP1Blue |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:33 - Feb 2 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Think the club had a lot of faith in Hirst. Which I do understand to an extent. |
I do understand that but he’s always had an injury in him. With the form he is now in though, I would have thought they would have had some contingency plan in place. His first touch this season has been so far off of it, I actually have no idea what’s gone wrong for him!
Azon in all honesty has been underwhelming this season but I will say the last couple games has been better. | | | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:25 - Feb 2 with 560 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:22 - Feb 2 by JakeITFC |
I'm happy to go through team for team if you like - Coventry can probably run us close but you can have a look on their forums or twitter to see what the loudmouth fans think of their forwards before we get started. |
Technically Norwich still have Sargent....
I'm holding my nose as I say it, but id rather have Sargent, Makama and Kvistgaarden. |  |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:27 - Feb 2 with 549 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:52 - Feb 2 by Herbivore |
From memory, Nunez missed our best chance against Watford when he blazed over from 6 yards out with the goal at his mercy, so I'm not sure us having a different striker would have helped in that situation. Azon and Hirst are both guilty of missing good chances but they aren't the only ones who have come up short in that regard. Kipre on Saturday should have won the game for us. |
Yup, Nunez missed the best / highest xG chance on 89 minutes.
Azon also had a good chance with his head on 87, which he could have done better with, and someone else may have buried, but he was definitely lacking sharpness 3 months ago. Given that chance now, I think there is a high likelihood he scores. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:27 - Feb 2 with 543 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:24 - Feb 2 by IP1Blue |
I do understand that but he’s always had an injury in him. With the form he is now in though, I would have thought they would have had some contingency plan in place. His first touch this season has been so far off of it, I actually have no idea what’s gone wrong for him!
Azon in all honesty has been underwhelming this season but I will say the last couple games has been better. |
Azon is potentially the strangest footballer I have ever watched.
I cannot work him out. | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:32 - Feb 2 with 524 views | jasondozzell |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:21 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
We're eleven points off our points tally at this stage two seasons ago. Improvement on the pitch doesn't seem to be consistent, to be kind. The Preston game was a carbon copy of the Watford game. I'm not sure whether we can really say the team continues to improve, rather than staying stock still with the same issues being exposed more often than not. |
Please, I am down on my knees begging you, remember that if we win on Tuesday we will be 4 points off the top of the league.
We drew some home games. It happens as do defeats in football. It happens to Real Madrid.
The club is in rude health. But the support has been spoilt and have largely lost their minds.
'We're 11 points off our tally from two seasons ago'. I can't even begin to comprehend this type of thought.
How can anyone who sat through the dross years find fault at the moment?
Perhaps 23/24 was a curse because it meant some thought it would always be like that. We could have finished top ten that season and it would have been very solid progress from where we were!!!! | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:35 - Feb 2 with 500 views | Herbivore |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:27 - Feb 2 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Azon is potentially the strangest footballer I have ever watched.
I cannot work him out. |
He might be the unluckiest player I've ever watched as well. He's had a couple of worldy saves against him, the one against Brizzle I'm still trying to work out how it stayed out, and he's hit the inside of the post twice having done nothing much wrong with his approach play and finish. He's definitely got something about him, works hard and is decent technically. I think his last few games he's gone up half a level. | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:38 - Feb 2 with 496 views | homer_123 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:21 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
We're eleven points off our points tally at this stage two seasons ago. Improvement on the pitch doesn't seem to be consistent, to be kind. The Preston game was a carbon copy of the Watford game. I'm not sure whether we can really say the team continues to improve, rather than staying stock still with the same issues being exposed more often than not. |
"We're eleven points off our points tally at this stage two seasons ago."
What relevance does that have to this season though? Comparing this season to that is moot. |  |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:39 - Feb 2 with 489 views | homer_123 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:25 - Feb 2 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Technically Norwich still have Sargent....
I'm holding my nose as I say it, but id rather have Sargent, Makama and Kvistgaarden. |
I wouldn't. | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:40 - Feb 2 with 493 views | Guthrum |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:21 - Feb 2 by pointofblue |
We're eleven points off our points tally at this stage two seasons ago. Improvement on the pitch doesn't seem to be consistent, to be kind. The Preston game was a carbon copy of the Watford game. I'm not sure whether we can really say the team continues to improve, rather than staying stock still with the same issues being exposed more often than not. |
Eight points, not 11.
Also, I don't see how you can say there's no improvement, or that we're being found out 'more often than not'. For the full season, our win rate is 48%, since the close of the transfer window 56% and over the last 10 games 60%. |  |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:40 - Feb 2 with 492 views | TownieRob |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:32 - Feb 2 by jasondozzell |
Please, I am down on my knees begging you, remember that if we win on Tuesday we will be 4 points off the top of the league.
We drew some home games. It happens as do defeats in football. It happens to Real Madrid.
The club is in rude health. But the support has been spoilt and have largely lost their minds.
'We're 11 points off our tally from two seasons ago'. I can't even begin to comprehend this type of thought.
How can anyone who sat through the dross years find fault at the moment?
Perhaps 23/24 was a curse because it meant some thought it would always be like that. We could have finished top ten that season and it would have been very solid progress from where we were!!!! |
I see a lot of “remember where we came from”, and I get that. Perspective matters. However, it can’t be selective. You can’t use that argument and then discount 23/24 as that season happened, and it was very good. We’re allowed to remember that as well.
We’ve since spent serious money. If money doesn’t translate into progress, then it hasn’t been spent particularly well. That isn’t negativity or entitlement, it’s just being honest.
And saying we need a striker to help shouldn’t even be controversial. It’s an obvious gap, not a meltdown.
The club is in good health, and no one’s denying how far we’ve come but that doesn’t mean we pretend everything’s perfect. The amount of chances Hirst and Azon have missed, proves this. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:46 - Feb 2 with 461 views | mrshallisfit |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:32 - Feb 2 by jasondozzell |
Please, I am down on my knees begging you, remember that if we win on Tuesday we will be 4 points off the top of the league.
We drew some home games. It happens as do defeats in football. It happens to Real Madrid.
The club is in rude health. But the support has been spoilt and have largely lost their minds.
'We're 11 points off our tally from two seasons ago'. I can't even begin to comprehend this type of thought.
How can anyone who sat through the dross years find fault at the moment?
Perhaps 23/24 was a curse because it meant some thought it would always be like that. We could have finished top ten that season and it would have been very solid progress from where we were!!!! |
God where will you be when we fail to get top 2 this year? Even worse, where will you be if we fail in the play offs? Would you stick with McKenna if we are still in the Championship (I know what your answer is to that question). | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:46 - Feb 2 with 458 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:39 - Feb 2 by homer_123 |
I wouldn't. |
Did pain me to say it.
That Makama is a serious player. He will be a premier league player this time next year. | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:47 - Feb 2 with 451 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 10:34 - Feb 2 by Herbivore |
We initially pulled out of the Azon deal because it was a loan to buy and there was an issue with his medical. He was pretty high up our list of targets and he's a decent striker, albeit he needs to improve his finishing. Delap went for £30m and was worth more than that, we were never going to replace him with like for like quality. The need for a striker has arisen through a combination of Hirst being horribly out of form, Azon not being clinical enough, and Akpom offering next to nothing so far. At the end of the last window our striking options looked fine. |
Yes it looked ok in summer, I agree. But things don't always work out as they should do on paper. And we've known for months it's not working and have a chance to put it right as that's the whole bleeding point of the January transfer window.
OP is right, promotion may hinge on this and failing yet again would be unforgivable if it's the difference between top 2 and playoffs. |  | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:49 - Feb 2 with 444 views | Herbivore |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:47 - Feb 2 by BouncebackIpswich |
Yes it looked ok in summer, I agree. But things don't always work out as they should do on paper. And we've known for months it's not working and have a chance to put it right as that's the whole bleeding point of the January transfer window.
OP is right, promotion may hinge on this and failing yet again would be unforgivable if it's the difference between top 2 and playoffs. |
I think you need to be more worried about relegation than promotion, mate. | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:51 - Feb 2 with 426 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:49 - Feb 2 by Herbivore |
I think you need to be more worried about relegation than promotion, mate. |
Any chance of answering the point? Thought not. Great contribution as ever, champ. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:52 - Feb 2 with 424 views | JackNorthStand |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:15 - Feb 2 by jasondozzell |
With respect, please try to move your analysis beyond 'we just need to get a 30 goal a season striker in here' and everything will be well, both if we are in the championship or PL next season.
Please look at history of KM's comments about strikers and the reiteration that we only want to sign players that will improve us and are right.
For many reasons it's complicated. My view is that we don't particularly need to sign a striker. If one fits then maybe but it's not the desperate last chance saloon that people make out.
I think KM would say that the team continues to improve and that there are many things we are working on to continue that improvement. |
We don’t need a 30 goal a season striker, correct. We do need an effective striker though an Hirst has became continuously ineffective all round.
Hirst could probably do with some help also, someone to take the heat off him being that player we want more from. | | | |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:55 - Feb 2 with 404 views | SomethingBlue |
"Unforgivable"! The English language gets an utter pasting these days doesn't it. | |
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| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:56 - Feb 2 with 401 views | jasondozzell |
| Not getting a good striker in is unforgivable on 11:40 - Feb 2 by TownieRob |
I see a lot of “remember where we came from”, and I get that. Perspective matters. However, it can’t be selective. You can’t use that argument and then discount 23/24 as that season happened, and it was very good. We’re allowed to remember that as well.
We’ve since spent serious money. If money doesn’t translate into progress, then it hasn’t been spent particularly well. That isn’t negativity or entitlement, it’s just being honest.
And saying we need a striker to help shouldn’t even be controversial. It’s an obvious gap, not a meltdown.
The club is in good health, and no one’s denying how far we’ve come but that doesn’t mean we pretend everything’s perfect. The amount of chances Hirst and Azon have missed, proves this. |
Of course 23/24 happened but it was a magical season! It's probably a once in a lifetime one in terms of the context.
But you cannot seriously expect to repeat it every season. They'll all be different for different reasons.
You can't say money hasn't translated into progress. Take just ONE bit of money spent. I watched Philogene score an absolute wonder goal against Norwich for us to finally beat them. He's been a joy to watch this season at home. Please compare that with literally whole seasons spent where I hoped maybe Danny Rowe was going to be the answer to our problems.
I really don't agree with the striker thing. They do not grow on trees and Freddie aside we've never relied on them as sole scorer really. [Post edited 2 Feb 12:14]
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