| Alex Mathie 17:59 - Feb 21 with 2376 views | gtsb1966 |
Just said basically that we are too predictable and the manager must realise that and change things. That's the problem though isn't it...he either cant see it or won't. Just my opinion but i think the club has gone a bit stale. It happens at every club. I honestly think a change of management will make us better. We need fresh ideas with fresh coaches. If you listen to KM's post match interview on radio suffolk it's the same old same old. I have nothing but admiration for KM but I think his time here is coming to an end. |  | | |  |
| Alex Mathie on 18:01 - Feb 21 with 2325 views | mrshallisfit |
Unfortunately, I make you totally correct. |  | | |
| Alex Mathie on 18:05 - Feb 21 with 2240 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
I dont think we need a change now, KM should get the season to see what happens.
I always think back to the photos of him helping clear up litter after the promotion celebrations and think he probably should have followed his gut and taken the Brighton job at that point.
That probably would have ended the chapter nicely for all parties. |  |
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| Alex Mathie on 18:06 - Feb 21 with 2211 views | gtsb1966 |
| Alex Mathie on 18:05 - Feb 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I dont think we need a change now, KM should get the season to see what happens.
I always think back to the photos of him helping clear up litter after the promotion celebrations and think he probably should have followed his gut and taken the Brighton job at that point.
That probably would have ended the chapter nicely for all parties. |
Absolutely end of season....I should've said that sorry. | | | |
| Alex Mathie on 18:08 - Feb 21 with 2147 views | pointofblue |
Or we could go on a winning run akin to 22/23 and 23/24. Both of which were preceded with two wins from ten.
Albeit I thought today would be the game to kick start that! | |
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| Alex Mathie on 18:16 - Feb 21 with 2035 views | grow_our_own |
| Alex Mathie on 18:05 - Feb 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I dont think we need a change now, KM should get the season to see what happens.
I always think back to the photos of him helping clear up litter after the promotion celebrations and think he probably should have followed his gut and taken the Brighton job at that point.
That probably would have ended the chapter nicely for all parties. |
KM's coaching with Brighton's recruitment does sound better suited than him with ours I must admit.
Since May 2024, we've had the whiff of disinterested journeymen about us. Betrayed by mid-table away form and failure to win from behind since shortly before then (S'ton in April 2024 was last come-from-behind win). 81 games and counting. Does the team actually give a sh!t anymore? Threw some babies out with bathwater. We've found no successor to Burns 32 million later. 12m on Greaves was a downgrade on Burgess. We're not a big club, so can't afford to waste treasure. | | | |
| Alex Mathie on 18:21 - Feb 21 with 1930 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
"I have nothing but admiration for KM but I think his time here is coming to an end."
So your feelings towards McKenna as our current manager are less than admiring towards him?
He is a young manager who is learning. He has made mistakes. His rigidity to a system (still a fluid one when it is working well) has served us well in the past. Let's give him a chance to see what happens.
That said, there is a time potentially where it does come to an end. We are nowhere near that yet. Compare it to Burley. When we parted ways with him (or Mogga and Magic after that) did it improve us? I would argue not but we will also never know what would have happened had we given any one of those more time. |  |
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| Alex Mathie on 18:30 - Feb 21 with 1773 views | You_Bloo_Right |
| Alex Mathie on 18:21 - Feb 21 by Nthsuffolkblue |
"I have nothing but admiration for KM but I think his time here is coming to an end."
So your feelings towards McKenna as our current manager are less than admiring towards him?
He is a young manager who is learning. He has made mistakes. His rigidity to a system (still a fluid one when it is working well) has served us well in the past. Let's give him a chance to see what happens.
That said, there is a time potentially where it does come to an end. We are nowhere near that yet. Compare it to Burley. When we parted ways with him (or Mogga and Magic after that) did it improve us? I would argue not but we will also never know what would have happened had we given any one of those more time. |
More time is my default option.
However.
The football club does not exist as a training course for the manager.
Grow together or grow apart. [Post edited 21 Feb 18:41]
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| Alex Mathie on 18:30 - Feb 21 with 1771 views | TractorWood |
| Alex Mathie on 18:21 - Feb 21 by Nthsuffolkblue |
"I have nothing but admiration for KM but I think his time here is coming to an end."
So your feelings towards McKenna as our current manager are less than admiring towards him?
He is a young manager who is learning. He has made mistakes. His rigidity to a system (still a fluid one when it is working well) has served us well in the past. Let's give him a chance to see what happens.
That said, there is a time potentially where it does come to an end. We are nowhere near that yet. Compare it to Burley. When we parted ways with him (or Mogga and Magic after that) did it improve us? I would argue not but we will also never know what would have happened had we given any one of those more time. |
It's not the mistakes people have a problem with.
It's never changing anything to avoid the same mistakes. |  |
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| Alex Mathie on 18:47 - Feb 21 with 1598 views | lazyblue |
So no KM then what then we gradually decline again. | | | |
| Alex Mathie on 18:51 - Feb 21 with 1553 views | blueoutlook |
| Alex Mathie on 18:21 - Feb 21 by Nthsuffolkblue |
"I have nothing but admiration for KM but I think his time here is coming to an end."
So your feelings towards McKenna as our current manager are less than admiring towards him?
He is a young manager who is learning. He has made mistakes. His rigidity to a system (still a fluid one when it is working well) has served us well in the past. Let's give him a chance to see what happens.
That said, there is a time potentially where it does come to an end. We are nowhere near that yet. Compare it to Burley. When we parted ways with him (or Mogga and Magic after that) did it improve us? I would argue not but we will also never know what would have happened had we given any one of those more time. |
Learning still? Why is he making the same mistake he has been making for months then ? We aren’t a training camp for McKenna anyway. Some people are so blinkered over him it’s getting ridiculous. |  | | |
| Alex Mathie on 19:40 - Feb 21 with 1358 views | ITFCSG |
| Alex Mathie on 18:51 - Feb 21 by blueoutlook |
Learning still? Why is he making the same mistake he has been making for months then ? We aren’t a training camp for McKenna anyway. Some people are so blinkered over him it’s getting ridiculous. |
Precisely. If Ipswich Town is an experimental ground for McKenna to hone his managerial skills (whatever that may be) to the detriment of the club's performance be it by buying overpriced players and coaching them to play in alien positions instead of their natural ones or stubbornly sticking to a certain fixed pattern of play week in week out then I'd rather we cut out losses and get rid.
He's looking a lot like Russell Martin at Southampton or Manning at the scum at the moment [Post edited 21 Feb 19:45]
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| Alex Mathie on 19:47 - Feb 21 with 1299 views | algy |
| Alex Mathie on 18:47 - Feb 21 by lazyblue |
So no KM then what then we gradually decline again. |
No, the Gamechanger etc.investment money will still be there and investment will still come into the club. That's been the consistent and crucial factor in our massive change in fortunes since Evans sold us in April 2021 not who has the job title of Manager | |
| Never forget that in April 2021, for ITFC, the Game Changed. |
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| Alex Mathie on 19:50 - Feb 21 with 1258 views | ITFCSG |
| Alex Mathie on 19:47 - Feb 21 by algy |
No, the Gamechanger etc.investment money will still be there and investment will still come into the club. That's been the consistent and crucial factor in our massive change in fortunes since Evans sold us in April 2021 not who has the job title of Manager |
Plus Ashton is part of the problem as well.
Needs oversight by GC, focuses too much on branding the club into some event mega arena, boxing, concerts etc but fails to improve the area where it matters most - football.
Recruitment still shite. All this is down to Ashton and Werhun, not McK | | | |
| Alex Mathie on 19:53 - Feb 21 with 1222 views | CopfordBlue |
I’m disappointed with so much about today and with a lot of things we’ve seen over the past 18 months I still think he’s the best manager we’ve had in decades and that we’ll be worse off when he leaves. No manager is perfect, for 2 years he seemed close to it. Since then it’s been a period of correction/realism. He’s a young manger learning his job and will be better for every negative experience.
He’s a class act, will have a great career in the game and I hope he’s here for years to come. | |
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| Alex Mathie on 19:54 - Feb 21 with 1209 views | algy |
| Alex Mathie on 19:50 - Feb 21 by ITFCSG |
Plus Ashton is part of the problem as well.
Needs oversight by GC, focuses too much on branding the club into some event mega arena, boxing, concerts etc but fails to improve the area where it matters most - football.
Recruitment still shite. All this is down to Ashton and Werhun, not McK |
I appreciate some believe that KM has little responsibility for recruitment, just as I appreciate some believe that the earth is flat and that the moon is made of cheese. But they're wrong too. | |
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| Alex Mathie on 19:55 - Feb 21 with 1202 views | pointofblue |
| Alex Mathie on 18:21 - Feb 21 by Nthsuffolkblue |
"I have nothing but admiration for KM but I think his time here is coming to an end."
So your feelings towards McKenna as our current manager are less than admiring towards him?
He is a young manager who is learning. He has made mistakes. His rigidity to a system (still a fluid one when it is working well) has served us well in the past. Let's give him a chance to see what happens.
That said, there is a time potentially where it does come to an end. We are nowhere near that yet. Compare it to Burley. When we parted ways with him (or Mogga and Magic after that) did it improve us? I would argue not but we will also never know what would have happened had we given any one of those more time. |
I think sacking Burley worked. We were 18th when he left and finished 7th. We then had a couple of seasons under the play offs with Royle, despite the financial situation we were under. | |
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| Alex Mathie on 20:13 - Feb 21 with 1130 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Alex Mathie on 19:40 - Feb 21 by ITFCSG |
Precisely. If Ipswich Town is an experimental ground for McKenna to hone his managerial skills (whatever that may be) to the detriment of the club's performance be it by buying overpriced players and coaching them to play in alien positions instead of their natural ones or stubbornly sticking to a certain fixed pattern of play week in week out then I'd rather we cut out losses and get rid.
He's looking a lot like Russell Martin at Southampton or Manning at the scum at the moment [Post edited 21 Feb 19:45]
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You’ve obviously not watched much of Russell Martin’s teams. And who was played out of position today? |  |
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| Alex Mathie on 20:26 - Feb 21 with 1058 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Alex Mathie on 19:50 - Feb 21 by ITFCSG |
Plus Ashton is part of the problem as well.
Needs oversight by GC, focuses too much on branding the club into some event mega arena, boxing, concerts etc but fails to improve the area where it matters most - football.
Recruitment still shite. All this is down to Ashton and Werhun, not McK |
Gamechanger have put Ashton in post because they don’t have the first clue about how to run a football club, let alone one in the 2nd tier in England. This is getting beyond stupid now. Ashton is an experienced football exec. To think we’d be better with Gamechanger being more hands on in the day to day of the football side is crazy talk. It’d be like Evans again, but more distant. Ashton won’t be without oversight- he’ll 100% be accountable to the owners as it is. | |
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| Alex Mathie on 21:17 - Feb 21 with 862 views | stonojnr |
Mathie gets paid to give his opinions, unlike most people on here, but he's never going to say yeah you know what the managers doing the right things here. Because it kills their post game phone in sessions doesnt it, theyve got to create the controversy to get people to create the arguments.
so he was a great player for the club, scored a hattrick on this day 28 years ago, but I rank his opinion on how we play now as highly as I do everyone else on this message board, which is thank you for your input but I dont agree. | | | |
| Alex Mathie on 21:34 - Feb 21 with 790 views | itfcsuth |
I think there are many things that need to change at the club at the moment.
KMc is not one of them. |  | | |
| Alex Mathie on 21:47 - Feb 21 with 701 views | peterleeblue |
| Alex Mathie on 19:53 - Feb 21 by CopfordBlue |
I’m disappointed with so much about today and with a lot of things we’ve seen over the past 18 months I still think he’s the best manager we’ve had in decades and that we’ll be worse off when he leaves. No manager is perfect, for 2 years he seemed close to it. Since then it’s been a period of correction/realism. He’s a young manger learning his job and will be better for every negative experience.
He’s a class act, will have a great career in the game and I hope he’s here for years to come. |
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