| the poor away *form* myth 10:15 - Feb 26 with 3945 views | positivity |
we've got 6 wins and 20 points over the past 12 games. that's pretty much auto promotion form (if you assume we'd do even better at home, which we have (21 points from 9 in the same timeframe)
we had a very poor away *start*, but our form is solid. [Post edited 27 Feb 13:04]
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| the poor away form myth on 10:19 - Feb 26 with 2710 views | FrimleyBlue |
Just like the whole season really
Auto promotion form. Just a sht start unfortunately |  |
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| the poor away form myth on 10:32 - Feb 26 with 2632 views | GeoffSentence |
Over the last 6 away games we are 6th on the form table. On the face of it that doesn't feel good enough, excepting that it is better than both Coventry and Middlesbrough. |  |
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| the poor away form myth on 10:38 - Feb 26 with 2587 views | positivity |
| the poor away form myth on 10:32 - Feb 26 by GeoffSentence |
Over the last 6 away games we are 6th on the form table. On the face of it that doesn't feel good enough, excepting that it is better than both Coventry and Middlesbrough. |
given that those 6 were millwall, cov, sheff u, derby, wrexham & watford; i'll take that! | |
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| the poor away form myth on 10:40 - Feb 26 with 2566 views | ReusersTown |
| the poor away form myth on 10:38 - Feb 26 by positivity |
given that those 6 were millwall, cov, sheff u, derby, wrexham & watford; i'll take that! |
Very good point. Though does mean we've underperformed elsewhere. [Post edited 26 Feb 10:41]
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| the poor away form myth on 10:51 - Feb 26 with 2494 views | HighgateBlue |
I don't think it's a myth, I think that we got a good result against Watford and that made a substantial difference to the numbers. I don't think there have been any assertions following Watford that our away form (i.e. recent away record) is poor.
It depends what one counts as 'form', but prior to Watford, looking at away records over the whole season, ours was worse than Norwich's, and that is poor.
Looking at the season as a whole /now/, we've moved ahead of Norwich on PPG, but are still only 8th, compared with 2nd on home form alone. So clearly there's a big disparity there.
If you just look at the last 6 home games and last 6 away games, we're clear at the top on the former and 6th on the latter if you order it by points then goal difference (same points as Brum in 7th). Again a disparity between home and away form.
Post-Watford, the recent away form is 10 points from 6 games, which I think is OK, especially given that there were no gimmes in there.
The Wrexham away game in the cup is also part of the picture though, and that's another one we lost, so I think before Watford people were entitled to scratch their heads a little and wonder why we were doing so much worse away from home. |  | | |
| the poor away form myth on 10:57 - Feb 26 with 2460 views | Vaughan8 |
Why does everyone say "from this point".
We are 9th in the away table. The top 5 arew Coventry, Middlesbrough, Hull, Derby and Millwall. Obviously 9th isn't "poor" but its below the level we want/need.
4 of those we are "fightring" for Promotion with. So we are worse than the 4 teams around us. | | | |
| the poor away form myth on 11:04 - Feb 26 with 2426 views | positivity |
| the poor away form myth on 10:57 - Feb 26 by Vaughan8 |
Why does everyone say "from this point".
We are 9th in the away table. The top 5 arew Coventry, Middlesbrough, Hull, Derby and Millwall. Obviously 9th isn't "poor" but its below the level we want/need.
4 of those we are "fightring" for Promotion with. So we are worse than the 4 teams around us. |
that's why i'm specifically arguing against those saying we have poor away *form* rather than having a below par away *season* so far, which i'd agree with | |
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| the poor away form myth on 11:10 - Feb 26 with 2379 views | bluefunk |
| the poor away form myth on 11:04 - Feb 26 by positivity |
that's why i'm specifically arguing against those saying we have poor away *form* rather than having a below par away *season* so far, which i'd agree with |
You miscalculated the lengths some Town fans will go to to paint a negative picture. I know of one fan who has booked a holiday the week of the potential play off games because he thinks we won’t even make the play offs, as Norwich, Southampton and Sheffield Utd will all overtake us [Post edited 26 Feb 11:10]
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| the poor away form myth on 11:22 - Feb 26 with 2313 views | Smoresy |
20 points from the last 12 is better than 11 points from the last 8, or 22 points from the last 16. We recorded the same points in our first half of away games as we have in our second half. Not poor by general standards, certainly; good form by general standards. Just not top two form.
We are in a good spell again though, having gone through previous spells of bad - good - bad*. Let's keep the good going!
*Bad and good by auto standards. [Post edited 26 Feb 11:23]
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| the poor away form myth on 12:23 - Feb 26 with 2138 views | Blue_In_Boston |
Can you remember back in August and September when we started badly that people were saying 'don't worry, there's a long way to go yet'.?
You can split stats up how you like, our away form has been decent lately, but unfortunately the season started in August. Points dropped then are just as costly as ones in April and May. | | | |
| the poor away form myth on 12:37 - Feb 26 with 2052 views | FrimleyBlue |
| the poor away form myth on 10:57 - Feb 26 by Vaughan8 |
Why does everyone say "from this point".
We are 9th in the away table. The top 5 arew Coventry, Middlesbrough, Hull, Derby and Millwall. Obviously 9th isn't "poor" but its below the level we want/need.
4 of those we are "fightring" for Promotion with. So we are worse than the 4 teams around us. |
Bodes well then because as far as i can remember when we got promoted we rarely got the right result against those around us but were fine with those 7th downwards. | |
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| the poor away form myth on 12:49 - Feb 26 with 2003 views | DarkBrandon |
| the poor away form myth on 10:57 - Feb 26 by Vaughan8 |
Why does everyone say "from this point".
We are 9th in the away table. The top 5 arew Coventry, Middlesbrough, Hull, Derby and Millwall. Obviously 9th isn't "poor" but its below the level we want/need.
4 of those we are "fightring" for Promotion with. So we are worse than the 4 teams around us. |
I know you can prove anything with facts, but our remaining seven away games are:
Saints (7th)
Stoke (13)
Norwich (17)
Charlton (18)
Portsmouth (19)
WBA (21)
Sheff Wed (24)
That's obviously heavily weighted to the lower end of the table, so you'd expect us to do better in the final chunk of the season than we have up to now.
Possibly you'd expect our home form to tail off similarly with the teams currently second, third and fifth still to visit PR. |  | | |
| the poor away form myth on 13:00 - Feb 26 with 1939 views | ReusersTown |
| the poor away form myth on 12:23 - Feb 26 by Blue_In_Boston |
Can you remember back in August and September when we started badly that people were saying 'don't worry, there's a long way to go yet'.?
You can split stats up how you like, our away form has been decent lately, but unfortunately the season started in August. Points dropped then are just as costly as ones in April and May. |
Yes and we are now 3rd with 2 games in hand. Your point being? | | | |
| the poor away form myth on 13:05 - Feb 26 with 1910 views | Vic |
| the poor away form myth on 10:32 - Feb 26 by GeoffSentence |
Over the last 6 away games we are 6th on the form table. On the face of it that doesn't feel good enough, excepting that it is better than both Coventry and Middlesbrough. |
Are you sure that's right, Geoff?
Phil's 6 game form guide has us sitting 10th, with the same points as Cov and one less that Boro. |  |
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| the poor away form myth on 13:15 - Feb 26 with 1857 views | DarkBrandon |
| the poor away form myth on 13:05 - Feb 26 by Vic |
Are you sure that's right, Geoff?
Phil's 6 game form guide has us sitting 10th, with the same points as Cov and one less that Boro. |
Click "away only" | | | |
| the poor away form myth on 13:17 - Feb 26 with 1837 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| the poor away form myth on 11:10 - Feb 26 by bluefunk |
You miscalculated the lengths some Town fans will go to to paint a negative picture. I know of one fan who has booked a holiday the week of the potential play off games because he thinks we won’t even make the play offs, as Norwich, Southampton and Sheffield Utd will all overtake us [Post edited 26 Feb 11:10]
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People like that don't deserve a holiday! |  |
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| the poor away form myth on 13:19 - Feb 26 with 1839 views | Vic |
| the poor away form myth on 13:15 - Feb 26 by DarkBrandon |
Click "away only" |
Yep - just realised that. Forget I said what I said! | |
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| the poor away form myth on 13:20 - Feb 26 with 1826 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| the poor away form myth on 12:23 - Feb 26 by Blue_In_Boston |
Can you remember back in August and September when we started badly that people were saying 'don't worry, there's a long way to go yet'.?
You can split stats up how you like, our away form has been decent lately, but unfortunately the season started in August. Points dropped then are just as costly as ones in April and May. |
A totally revamped team, including new captain, and with much of it not finalised in August, was always likely to have a slow start. | |
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| the poor away form myth on 13:26 - Feb 26 with 1801 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| the poor away form myth on 12:49 - Feb 26 by DarkBrandon |
I know you can prove anything with facts, but our remaining seven away games are:
Saints (7th)
Stoke (13)
Norwich (17)
Charlton (18)
Portsmouth (19)
WBA (21)
Sheff Wed (24)
That's obviously heavily weighted to the lower end of the table, so you'd expect us to do better in the final chunk of the season than we have up to now.
Possibly you'd expect our home form to tail off similarly with the teams currently second, third and fifth still to visit PR. |
Very good
Seems to me that the best thing about that list is that they will all still be looking for wins, which should suit us, rather than sitting back - maybe... | | | |
| the poor away form myth on 13:44 - Feb 26 with 1733 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
The season started in August. |  |
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| the poor away form myth on 14:10 - Feb 26 with 1642 views | positivity |
and doesn't end till may. what's your point?
it's away *form* that's being discussed, not overall away points performance! | |
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| the poor away form myth on 14:34 - Feb 26 with 1558 views | Vaughan8 |
| the poor away form myth on 14:10 - Feb 26 by positivity |
and doesn't end till may. what's your point?
it's away *form* that's being discussed, not overall away points performance! |
To be fair your "form" consists of 12 away games. We've only had 16 in total. THats 3/4rds of the away games.
I don't think anyone is saying its "poor". Just lot as good as it should be, which its not. | | | |
| the poor away form myth on 14:40 - Feb 26 with 1531 views | Vaughan8 |
| the poor away form myth on 12:49 - Feb 26 by DarkBrandon |
I know you can prove anything with facts, but our remaining seven away games are:
Saints (7th)
Stoke (13)
Norwich (17)
Charlton (18)
Portsmouth (19)
WBA (21)
Sheff Wed (24)
That's obviously heavily weighted to the lower end of the table, so you'd expect us to do better in the final chunk of the season than we have up to now.
Possibly you'd expect our home form to tail off similarly with the teams currently second, third and fifth still to visit PR. |
Then you look at our results against the other bottom half teams so far:-
23rd Oxford L
22nd Leicester L
20th Blackburn D
16th Sheff Utd L
15th Swansea W
14th QPR W
THe away form just seems a bit odd when you throw in we've beaten Coventry and Hull | | | |
| the poor away form myth on 14:43 - Feb 26 with 1510 views | SitfcB |
| the poor away form myth on 13:00 - Feb 26 by ReusersTown |
Yes and we are now 3rd with 2 games in hand. Your point being? |
4th. |  |
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| the poor away form myth on 15:14 - Feb 26 with 1409 views | positivity |
| the poor away form myth on 14:34 - Feb 26 by Vaughan8 |
To be fair your "form" consists of 12 away games. We've only had 16 in total. THats 3/4rds of the away games.
I don't think anyone is saying its "poor". Just lot as good as it should be, which its not. |
plenty have said it's poor, seem to be pop up every time we fail to win an away game! | |
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