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Keno's Monday Musings ... 09:52 - Mar 23 with 1164 viewsKeno

Not sure if I am alone in this but I'm finding this season a bit of a slog, not helped by the vacillating volatility of fans where one week we are world beaters destined for the champions league and 5 minutes we could find ourselves in the National league

It does feel very much like the last promotion season, sitting there or thereabouts with a game, or 2 in hand, and it very much in our hands

but somehow it lacks the innocent excitement of that season and there isnt quite the same bond with the team

For whats its worth I think we'll be ok but then you wonder what next season will bring!!


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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 10:00 - Mar 23 with 1091 viewswaveneyblue

Definitely not alone.

I find the continuous obsession (I can't use any other word) to do down the club at every given opportunity really draining.

and yes, it isn't the same as the last promotion season, it never will be - that was generationally special
[Post edited 23 Mar 11:17]
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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 10:58 - Mar 23 with 973 viewsLandOfMickyStockwell

Yes. The increased number of games (not counting the Blackburn and Pompey trips) is taking a bit of a toll. The run-in will be like a month of intravenous concentrated emotion.

We are thereabouts and Southampton away has the potential to be a Barnsley or Coventry. I found solace in the TWTD form table that shows the slow start is all that's dented us for the automatic places. Just do not select the last 20 matches if you're thinking about 11 April.

We're on the boil, but it feels like a simmer.
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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:10 - Mar 23 with 922 viewsBseaBlue

In a strange way, I've actually come away from Saturday feeling more confident.

The first half was a demonstration of how much better we are than any team in this division when we put our foot on the gas. A tough Millwall side couldn't get near us.

I know the second half doesn't go in our favour, but we showed real resilience to get the point at the end. We know from the predicted league tables just how tight it might be, so that point could be huge! Add in the suspended players/injuries and a point is not a disaster.

Whilst the amount of games coming up is a bit of a concern, it has the makings of a proper Mckenna-type run of wins written all over it. Back to Back games, noisy away ends. Bring it on!
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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:11 - Mar 23 with 918 viewsSE1blue

Keno's Monday Musings ... on 10:00 - Mar 23 by waveneyblue

Definitely not alone.

I find the continuous obsession (I can't use any other word) to do down the club at every given opportunity really draining.

and yes, it isn't the same as the last promotion season, it never will be - that was generationally special
[Post edited 23 Mar 11:17]


The last promotion season was like the early days/weeks/months of an exciting new relationship - a lot of sexy moments and an almost endless glow after each performance.

This season feels like we’ve had a kid, who cries every night despite getting more tit and bottle than most, and the sexy moments are less consistent.

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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:19 - Mar 23 with 854 viewswaveneyblue

Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:11 - Mar 23 by SE1blue

The last promotion season was like the early days/weeks/months of an exciting new relationship - a lot of sexy moments and an almost endless glow after each performance.

This season feels like we’ve had a kid, who cries every night despite getting more tit and bottle than most, and the sexy moments are less consistent.


Nice analogy.

Very accurate and the kid reference beautifully sums up a lot of the less "positive" posters -
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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:22 - Mar 23 with 839 viewsitfcsuth

It has been a slog.

Fans up and down emotions has largely reflected up and down performances, not always results, but performances have been indifferent at times.

We are far from the finished article, we are not going to be this season, we need more transfer windows, the building of Town 2.0 has taken longer than we'd want, our transfer business certainly hasn't been as smooth as we'd like.

But we are still competing as we are building, and there is a real achievement in that, and we will finish where we deserve this season.

What I would say, if we were promoted to the PL, it would be another huge turnaround in players, if we were in the Championship again, there would be more tweaking than overhaul.
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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:47 - Mar 23 with 700 viewsghostofescobar

Agree. But mainly down to the incessant bitching and moaning when we are not beating everyone out of sight whilst barely breaking a sweat. I don’t come on here after a loss. The ignorance and entitlement can be off the scale. I sometimes don’t even if we draw. Much of it down to the “instant gratification” society we live in. I sometimes think some of our fans think the Evans era didn’t happen. Memories seem very, very short about the dire predicament this club was in. Ground falling apart, training facilities run down, no engagement with fans, no work in the community, terrible youth set up etc etc. Yet here we are, promotion in our hands, a talented squad, full ground, about to have some of the best training facilities in the country, amazing community work, PR looks great again, everything about the club in a generally upwards trajectory. But let’s shout to get McKenna out, or Ashton out. Life isn’t perfect, it has some really cr@p bits, and footballs the same.

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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:47 - Mar 23 with 700 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Keno's Monday Musings ... on 10:58 - Mar 23 by LandOfMickyStockwell

Yes. The increased number of games (not counting the Blackburn and Pompey trips) is taking a bit of a toll. The run-in will be like a month of intravenous concentrated emotion.

We are thereabouts and Southampton away has the potential to be a Barnsley or Coventry. I found solace in the TWTD form table that shows the slow start is all that's dented us for the automatic places. Just do not select the last 20 matches if you're thinking about 11 April.

We're on the boil, but it feels like a simmer.


The table since Nov 1st makes things look significantly better.

https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-

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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:53 - Mar 23 with 666 viewsLinners

I'm also finding it an unnecessary emotional rollercoaster. I keep having to remind myself that's is a leisure activity and what a privilege it is to only have football to really worry about!

I think it's made worse by our experience last year, which was largely unpleasant and the older I get the less love I have for the whole PL experience.
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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:54 - Mar 23 with 650 viewssquiz

Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:10 - Mar 23 by BseaBlue

In a strange way, I've actually come away from Saturday feeling more confident.

The first half was a demonstration of how much better we are than any team in this division when we put our foot on the gas. A tough Millwall side couldn't get near us.

I know the second half doesn't go in our favour, but we showed real resilience to get the point at the end. We know from the predicted league tables just how tight it might be, so that point could be huge! Add in the suspended players/injuries and a point is not a disaster.

Whilst the amount of games coming up is a bit of a concern, it has the makings of a proper Mckenna-type run of wins written all over it. Back to Back games, noisy away ends. Bring it on!


Yes I came out of saturday the same, overall feeling more optimistic. We could have lost the game in the 2nd half, and Boro dropped points too.

We now have over 2 weeks to recover and get ready for a busy run in. We'll have Nunez, Philogene and Kipre back. Hopefully Burns. And Davis only 1 game away.
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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 12:25 - Mar 23 with 564 viewsNthQldITFC

Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:10 - Mar 23 by BseaBlue

In a strange way, I've actually come away from Saturday feeling more confident.

The first half was a demonstration of how much better we are than any team in this division when we put our foot on the gas. A tough Millwall side couldn't get near us.

I know the second half doesn't go in our favour, but we showed real resilience to get the point at the end. We know from the predicted league tables just how tight it might be, so that point could be huge! Add in the suspended players/injuries and a point is not a disaster.

Whilst the amount of games coming up is a bit of a concern, it has the makings of a proper Mckenna-type run of wins written all over it. Back to Back games, noisy away ends. Bring it on!


Totally in line with your second paragraph - we are untouchable (not sure how Soton are playing now though?) when we are at our best. Coventry learned that the hard way, and the first half against Millwall was stand out.

What we are is inconsistent, and a lot of that relates to psychology I think. I'm a touch disappointed that we haven't built that up more over the course of this season - it's improved a lot from the first couple of months, but not close to what we had two years ago yet.

That aside, I do feel that we have what it takes to step up against three or four sides that might try to play against us a bit (Boro, Saints, Nodge, Brum) OK maybe not all of those will want to go toe to toe.

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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 12:37 - Mar 23 with 511 viewsChurchman

Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:47 - Mar 23 by ghostofescobar

Agree. But mainly down to the incessant bitching and moaning when we are not beating everyone out of sight whilst barely breaking a sweat. I don’t come on here after a loss. The ignorance and entitlement can be off the scale. I sometimes don’t even if we draw. Much of it down to the “instant gratification” society we live in. I sometimes think some of our fans think the Evans era didn’t happen. Memories seem very, very short about the dire predicament this club was in. Ground falling apart, training facilities run down, no engagement with fans, no work in the community, terrible youth set up etc etc. Yet here we are, promotion in our hands, a talented squad, full ground, about to have some of the best training facilities in the country, amazing community work, PR looks great again, everything about the club in a generally upwards trajectory. But let’s shout to get McKenna out, or Ashton out. Life isn’t perfect, it has some really cr@p bits, and footballs the same.


There are also those that preferred hoof ball, Oli Hawkins, celebrating the painted turnstiles. The excitement of bad boy Bullard turning up for a new season with a fat contract looking like Moby Dick after a bad night out.

The excitement of Chopra and the baseball bat boys rocking up to the training ground. And let’s not forget Portman Road’s holy trinity of The inert Douglas (proper bloke), Skuse (Skusey) and Hyam stumbling about. Well not Douglas - he didn’t move at all. But many people much preferred that.

Then there’s beloved ‘our Nors’. Where to begin. Did they get an ounce of abuse or criticism the current players get? No. Why? Because if some of our finest have any mentality at all it’s small minded.

There is nothing wrong with critique, comment or criticism. We are all entitled to a view. But the usual suspects disappear like a disappointing f@rt if we win and play well and never offer an ounce of anything positive if woe betide we lose, draw or even scrape a win (WBA at home). It’s making this forum unusable unless one fancies poking them with sticks as I confess I sometimes do.

Saturday was a classic example. It was a beautiful sunny day. The ground looked smart, full and the atmosphere was good. I found the game interesting. We were excellent first half and failed to capitalise on the counter second. Any praise for that first half from the suspects? Any comment on how well say Matusiwa, Clarke, Azon and O’Shea played from the sadsacks? Nah.

Ten years ago we were watching garbage going out of habit, not pleasure. Crowds melted away for a reason. This season I’m watching people who can actually play. Ok, the new team isn’t as far forward as I’d like. We’ve had some shambolic performances (stoke away), but we’ve also had plenty of good ones.

We have talented, interesting players and some fun characters but so many on social media including here don’t want to see it - they just want to bait and hate. They want to ‘contribute’ by forcing the manager out and hounding players like Muric and Hirst out. Pleasure only gained in looking at the negatives. They know best - in their own pea-brained world.

Your post uses the words ignorance, entitlement and ‘instant gratification’ for these people and that neatly sums them up.
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Keno's Monday Musings ... on 14:47 - Mar 23 with 292 viewsmellowblue

Keno's Monday Musings ... on 11:10 - Mar 23 by BseaBlue

In a strange way, I've actually come away from Saturday feeling more confident.

The first half was a demonstration of how much better we are than any team in this division when we put our foot on the gas. A tough Millwall side couldn't get near us.

I know the second half doesn't go in our favour, but we showed real resilience to get the point at the end. We know from the predicted league tables just how tight it might be, so that point could be huge! Add in the suspended players/injuries and a point is not a disaster.

Whilst the amount of games coming up is a bit of a concern, it has the makings of a proper Mckenna-type run of wins written all over it. Back to Back games, noisy away ends. Bring it on!


I don't feel the same, clearly Millwall's set up was wrong and they rectified it at H.T. To be so on top first half and only come away with 1-0 does not fill me with confidence.
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