| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) 12:00 - Mar 24 with 7182 views | MaySixth |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 20:08 - Mar 24 with 2306 views | RetroBlue |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 15:54 - Mar 24 by _CliveBaker_ |
I don't think this baying for blood is a particularly good look.
Its quite clearly a collective feck up, yes someone needs to take some accountability for it, but some people don't seem content unless someone's losing their livelihood over every cock up. I think there are more tangible and helpful ways to react tbh. |
Well that accountability usually goes to the person at the top of the pyramid...Remains to be seen if Mr Teflon is held to account. |  |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 20:10 - Mar 24 with 2306 views | MalcolmBlue |
The statement put out by him was garbage anyway. If he loses his job I’m sure the club would quite easily upgrade in quality. |  |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 21:10 - Mar 25 with 2109 views | Miaow |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 20:10 - Mar 24 by MalcolmBlue |
The statement put out by him was garbage anyway. If he loses his job I’m sure the club would quite easily upgrade in quality. |
I assume you mean the official club statement. Would be interesting to hear from the man himself. Or maybe even Mark Ashton... |  |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 22:04 - Mar 25 with 1915 views | NthQldITFC |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 16:29 - Mar 24 by Ryorry |
Terrible cock-up yes, but a bit ott to want the death penalty applied to the perpetrator/s. |
Worse than that - he'll have to go and watch Norwich for a season. |  |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 23:02 - Mar 25 with 1753 views | benrhyddingblue |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 16:31 - Mar 24 by Tambu |
Have you not noticed that who ever you vote for the government still get in?
Left wing/Right wing, same bird. |
Seriously, you think that politics is just ticking a box at an election? |  | | |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 23:09 - Mar 25 with 1722 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 23:02 - Mar 25 by benrhyddingblue |
Seriously, you think that politics is just ticking a box at an election? |
I would assume the comments were very much tongue-in-cheek, but it must be a good life that is unaffected by whoever is in power to the degree it matters so little to them. |  |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 04:16 - Mar 26 with 1596 views | LA_Tractor_Boy |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 23:09 - Mar 25 by Nthsuffolkblue |
I would assume the comments were very much tongue-in-cheek, but it must be a good life that is unaffected by whoever is in power to the degree it matters so little to them. |
Obviously whoever is in power affects everyone.
But unless someone is going to stand for election, they can't control who is in power other than putting their tick in a box.
So basically you can't control who is in government or what they are going to do with that power. That's why personally I'm not interested in politics. | | | |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 07:17 - Mar 26 with 1469 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 04:16 - Mar 26 by LA_Tractor_Boy |
Obviously whoever is in power affects everyone.
But unless someone is going to stand for election, they can't control who is in power other than putting their tick in a box.
So basically you can't control who is in government or what they are going to do with that power. That's why personally I'm not interested in politics. |
It's not simply a matter of who's in power though is it? Opposition parties and big personalities like Fuhrage create the narrative. They have their own agenda, they turn their narrow hateful views into debates and lie, deceive and obscure facts to persuade the gullible. That's why it is so wrong to give a platform to these people, certainly in a high profile football club, and why now politics has become entangled in our football club. Whoever decided that was a good idea needs to own the mistake, fess up and take whatever medicine is necessary. |  |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:30 - Mar 26 with 1306 views | glasso |
This was absolutely without doubt a massive PR f**k up, but having worked in PR for 20 years, you'd be amazed at how many times I've said to a client, "I really don't think this is a good idea," and they've gone ahead with it anyway because they're the boss and they know best.
And who always ends up holding the can at the end? The PR who said not to do it.
Until we know what went on, I'd be reluctant to blame one person (unless it's the person at the top, where the buck should ultimately lie) | | | |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:49 - Mar 26 with 1230 views | GavTWTD |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:30 - Mar 26 by glasso |
This was absolutely without doubt a massive PR f**k up, but having worked in PR for 20 years, you'd be amazed at how many times I've said to a client, "I really don't think this is a good idea," and they've gone ahead with it anyway because they're the boss and they know best.
And who always ends up holding the can at the end? The PR who said not to do it.
Until we know what went on, I'd be reluctant to blame one person (unless it's the person at the top, where the buck should ultimately lie) |
I think that's all we'll hear from the club until the next fans forum. When will that be?
KM will probably be asked about it next week but he'll rightfully bat it away. |  |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:52 - Mar 26 with 1201 views | baxterbasics |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:49 - Mar 26 by GavTWTD |
I think that's all we'll hear from the club until the next fans forum. When will that be?
KM will probably be asked about it next week but he'll rightfully bat it away. |
Think you're right. No way KMs getting involved publicly.
"I'm not thinking about that, my job is to focus on the football" is what we'll get. |  |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:55 - Mar 26 with 1175 views | CastroSito |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:52 - Mar 26 by baxterbasics |
Think you're right. No way KMs getting involved publicly.
"I'm not thinking about that, my job is to focus on the football" is what we'll get. |
Its a shame that KM will bat it away I think, understandable as it is. As far as managers go, he has a pretty strong position and if he came out, even lightly pushing back on it, it would be a great message. | | | |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 10:47 - Mar 26 with 1079 views | glasso |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:49 - Mar 26 by GavTWTD |
I think that's all we'll hear from the club until the next fans forum. When will that be?
KM will probably be asked about it next week but he'll rightfully bat it away. |
Yeah the last thing we want is KM or the players getting involved, but the problem is that it's now the number one question any decent journalist will ask.
That's part of the reason it's such a huge f*** up - it has now gone much further than just the people who were actually involved with it. | | | |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 11:01 - Mar 26 with 1013 views | darkhorse28 |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 15:54 - Mar 24 by _CliveBaker_ |
I don't think this baying for blood is a particularly good look.
Its quite clearly a collective feck up, yes someone needs to take some accountability for it, but some people don't seem content unless someone's losing their livelihood over every cock up. I think there are more tangible and helpful ways to react tbh. |
By sacking Mark Ashton, more for wasting £250 million, paying our manager more than Barcelona, AND completely destroying our brand equity and commercial value, and ENTIRE CLUB for political dogma.
If you don’t think reducing our proud club to rubble is a sacking offence, then I’d love to work for you - shall we do tea and biscuits all day, or biscuits and tea before setting fire to the building??
Seriously. What the actual feck! .., th complete apathy towards our values and we stand for, it blows my mind.
Mark will (try to) find a scapegoat, his career depends on it, but it’s obvious where the issues are, his love from Nige shirt was a small clue.
You might need to stand up for those values one day, if you want to keep them!! Maybe today? | | | |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 11:21 - Mar 26 with 990 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 11:01 - Mar 26 by darkhorse28 |
By sacking Mark Ashton, more for wasting £250 million, paying our manager more than Barcelona, AND completely destroying our brand equity and commercial value, and ENTIRE CLUB for political dogma.
If you don’t think reducing our proud club to rubble is a sacking offence, then I’d love to work for you - shall we do tea and biscuits all day, or biscuits and tea before setting fire to the building??
Seriously. What the actual feck! .., th complete apathy towards our values and we stand for, it blows my mind.
Mark will (try to) find a scapegoat, his career depends on it, but it’s obvious where the issues are, his love from Nige shirt was a small clue.
You might need to stand up for those values one day, if you want to keep them!! Maybe today? |
I don't normally bother reading your nonsense but this was a mercifully short one for you. Our proud club has been reduced to rubble has it?
I'd hate to hear what you think about Sheffield Wednesday if that's the case. |  |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 11:22 - Mar 26 with 983 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 18:49 - Mar 24 by grow_our_own |
Marcus Nash, as Communications Director, either was himself this "senior club official" or was oblivious to the club making this invitation. He's either directly responsible or negligent in his job. Either way, get out of our club! [Post edited 24 Mar 18:56]
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Again, you've changed "senior club figure" to "official". Why? | |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 11:29 - Mar 26 with 946 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 16:11 - Mar 24 by nrb1985 |
disagree entirely.
Most people in large, very visible, organisations would be gone over this. Or at least somebody senior would be gone.
Spent the last c. 20 years of my life in large, publicly listed banks - I would have been gone by today if I used my professional platform to promote any political party.
Somebody senior, even if not Nash, needs to be booted for this. [Post edited 24 Mar 16:14]
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You're a banker? The absolute epitome of the moral high ground!
I bow to your superior moral code. | |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 11:32 - Mar 26 with 938 views | positivity |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 11:21 - Mar 26 by The_Flashing_Smile |
I don't normally bother reading your nonsense but this was a mercifully short one for you. Our proud club has been reduced to rubble has it?
I'd hate to hear what you think about Sheffield Wednesday if that's the case. |
or norwich city, something tells me he might be more positive to them! | |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 15:22 - Mar 26 with 827 views | nrb1985 |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 11:29 - Mar 26 by The_Flashing_Smile |
You're a banker? The absolute epitome of the moral high ground!
I bow to your superior moral code. |
You can bow to whoever whoever you like!
But there are a multitude of posters on here who all think you're dead wrong on this and I’m pretty sure not all of them — if any — work in or have worked for banks.
Moreover, the people on your side of the argument are the likes of Waveney Blue and a number of posters who’ve been banned in the last few days…
So think what you like — I’m very comfortable with both my profession and my moral compass.
However, given you have no issue with a guy who’s given us the below (among many others) being invited into our football club, I’m not sure we can say the same for your moral compass, sadly.
https://hyperallergic.com/uk-p | | | |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 18:16 - Mar 26 with 611 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 15:22 - Mar 26 by nrb1985 |
You can bow to whoever whoever you like!
But there are a multitude of posters on here who all think you're dead wrong on this and I’m pretty sure not all of them — if any — work in or have worked for banks.
Moreover, the people on your side of the argument are the likes of Waveney Blue and a number of posters who’ve been banned in the last few days…
So think what you like — I’m very comfortable with both my profession and my moral compass.
However, given you have no issue with a guy who’s given us the below (among many others) being invited into our football club, I’m not sure we can say the same for your moral compass, sadly.
https://hyperallergic.com/uk-p |
Where did you get that I have no issue with Farage being in our football club?
What I've posted in this thread - and have agreed with from others - is that it's a bit unseemly to be demanding sackings (especially without knowing the full details).
I 100% stand by that.
And I 100% stand by I won't be lectured to on morals from a banker. | |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:43 - Mar 27 with 472 views | baxterbasics |
I guess we should be softening our stance on poor Marcus now, since it seems it was Ashton that arranged the whole thing. Would be a big ask to expect Nash to tell Farage to eff off in these circs.
Forgiven, no? | |
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| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 10:26 - Mar 27 with 412 views | grow_our_own |
| Bye bye Marcus Nash (n/t) on 09:43 - Mar 27 by baxterbasics |
I guess we should be softening our stance on poor Marcus now, since it seems it was Ashton that arranged the whole thing. Would be a big ask to expect Nash to tell Farage to eff off in these circs.
Forgiven, no? |
Depends what "Comms Director" at ITFC actually means in practice. If it's a dressed-up job title for a minimum wage dog's body, then perhaps. ITFC isn't a huge org. But at the enterprises I've worked in, CD would have had a say in this kind of matter. Might be overruled by the C-suite, but would still have had a say. If he promoted this publicity junket, or marched Phil and the media up a hill on a lie, then his position is untenable. Even if he failed to voice his concern, he'd be negligent. [Post edited 27 Mar 10:28]
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