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If you are a Town fan and minded to vote Reform in May does this episode make you think again about your vote? Does the way the club has been used by Farage and Reform make you feel that these are people who can be trusted to run local government? They have damaged our club what would they do to a County? Could be an opportunity for the other local political parties to help marshal the anti-Reform tactical vote.
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Negative local impact on Reform? on 23:22 - Mar 25 with 568 views
Negative local impact on Reform? on 15:11 - Mar 25 by lazyblue
If not Tory then its would be reform , what is the the real scary option is most youngsters like Green Party that would definitely be move abroad for me!
Whilst I would agree on a practical level the greens would be a disaster at least they are in the main well intentioned.
The idea that reform are less scary then the greens is absolutely mental. Reform are not only incompetent but they really are nasty, hateful human beings with masks on. People in Germany got fooled once. The US have been fooled recently. Do we not learn any lessons from history about these sorts of people.
Negative local impact on Reform? on 23:22 - Mar 25 by Nutkins_Return
Whilst I would agree on a practical level the greens would be a disaster at least they are in the main well intentioned.
The idea that reform are less scary then the greens is absolutely mental. Reform are not only incompetent but they really are nasty, hateful human beings with masks on. People in Germany got fooled once. The US have been fooled recently. Do we not learn any lessons from history about these sorts of people.
I do wonder whether Reform supporters look at Trump and everything going on over there and think "yes, we could do with some of that!"
And, if they don't, I can't for the life of me think why they would vote for them. The affiliations are completely open and there to see.
Negative local impact on Reform? on 23:22 - Mar 25 by Nutkins_Return
Whilst I would agree on a practical level the greens would be a disaster at least they are in the main well intentioned.
The idea that reform are less scary then the greens is absolutely mental. Reform are not only incompetent but they really are nasty, hateful human beings with masks on. People in Germany got fooled once. The US have been fooled recently. Do we not learn any lessons from history about these sorts of people.
Take a look at Green run local councils versus Reform run local councils (indeed, even some Tory run local councils). The idea that the Greens would be a disaster because they are proposing quite a different agenda shouldn't be taken as fact. They have always been effective at local level in a way Reform could only dream of. They often attract bright, competent people who actually want to make a positive difference. That's in total contrast to the self-serving halfwits that we get from many of the other parties, with a healthy dose of racism thrown in from Reform candidates.
Negative local impact on Reform? on 15:16 - Mar 25 by bluester
What worries me isn’t just the stunt with the club, it’s the mindset behind it. I honestly don’t think many Reform voters stop to consider the consequences of what they’re backing. The policies they cheer for would upend the lives of millions of ordinary people. Families split apart, essential workers forced out, even people born here suddenly unsure of their place due to the colour of their skin. Are they genuinely comfortable with that? Or is the appeal simply the buzz of ‘owning the libs’ and f@cking over anyone they’ve decided is ‘woke’? Because if that’s all it is, the human cost is enormous. If this is how lightly they treat a football club, what happens when they’re handed responsibility for a country?
I come at this as someone whose life is intertwined with people from all over the world, friends who’ve made their lives here, colleagues who keep the system running and a wife who was born overseas. These aren’t hypothetical "others" to me, they’re the people I care about, work with and rely on every day. When I hear talk from Reform figures about mass removals or stripping people of their place in this country, I know exactly who would be in the firing line. That’s why I find it so hard to understand how lightly some people treat the consequences of these policies.
My point is, thinking deeply, isn't something they really do. If it was they wouldn't vote Reform.
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It's politics we are talking about here, we all know whoever gets in charge ditches their policies as soon as they are in the door, regardless of what they stand for.
Vote none of the above.
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Negative local impact on Reform? on 10:01 - Mar 26 with 363 views
Negative local impact on Reform? on 07:25 - Mar 26 by Blue_Moses
It's politics we are talking about here, we all know whoever gets in charge ditches their policies as soon as they are in the door, regardless of what they stand for.
Vote none of the above.
Yeah, I'm not so sure about that. History shows that when people assume institutions will blunt the worst instincts of those in power, that's when the real damage is done. Even some implementation of the kind of extreme policies Reform are suggesting, would have dire consequences for a lot of people, in this case minorities and immigrants (my mother came here when she was 16). Not to mention the damage their utter incompetence will cause.
For me, dismissing stated intentions on the basis that politics never delivers feels a little risky.
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I’m waiting for Kemi…. on 10:17 - Mar 26 with 347 views
I’m waiting for Kemi…. on 10:20 - Mar 26 by Herbivore
I'm no history buff, but isn't that how we beat Germany in WW1?
and world war 2.
saw a great documentary about it the other night; some of the players really reminded me of michael caine, russell osman and john wark though, which was a bit off-putting...
People have said that the club should have turned Reform away or refused to take their booking for a tour. What I wonder about is whether Farage walking around Portman Road is going to conclusively make anyone who was minded to vote for Reform do so; whereas I'm pretty sure that if the club had decided not to let Farage come to PR, he and his party would have made a song and dance about it, which would have very likely persuaded anyone thinking of voting for Reform to do so, as it would have been used as an example of "If you lean to the right, "they" stop you from even visiting a football stadium! You can't do anything, anymore!"
The right wing are big on persecution. Both carrying it out and bleating about any perceived examples against themselves.
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I’m waiting for Kemi…. on 10:36 - Mar 26 with 298 views
I’m waiting for Kemi…. on 10:20 - Mar 26 by Herbivore
I'm no history buff, but isn't that how we beat Germany in WW1?
No. We lost the 1914 Christmas Truce 1914 game 3-2. It was played at a place called Ploegsteert ("Plugstreet") about 8 miles south of Ypres.
While the Christmas truce did happen, the above is very much thought to have happened. There were actually impromptu games along the front line where the truce held of which this is the best known.
Now I could do a nice long piece about how we really beat Germany in WW1, but I’ll spare the forum that.
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Negative local impact on Reform? on 10:37 - Mar 26 with 298 views
Negative local impact on Reform? on 10:30 - Mar 26 by patrickswell
People have said that the club should have turned Reform away or refused to take their booking for a tour. What I wonder about is whether Farage walking around Portman Road is going to conclusively make anyone who was minded to vote for Reform do so; whereas I'm pretty sure that if the club had decided not to let Farage come to PR, he and his party would have made a song and dance about it, which would have very likely persuaded anyone thinking of voting for Reform to do so, as it would have been used as an example of "If you lean to the right, "they" stop you from even visiting a football stadium! You can't do anything, anymore!"
The right wing are big on persecution. Both carrying it out and bleating about any perceived examples against themselves.
That's a very interesting point that I hadn't considered. What I don't get is how are Reform able to use their video with Portman Road, Ipswich badge, the shirts, etc.
Is it the case that the club have been forthcoming and consented to so much else (eg letting him in the dressing room - was this standard for a tour??) that they can't really bring a legal challenge to Reform now?
Would it be in their interests to sue? I imagine likes of MSC, HALO, Ed Sheeran probably not delighted about it as others have mentioned elsewhere. Are their legal teams going to be exploring action?
On another note, for any prospective Reform voters, video from yesterday showing what Nige/Reform are made of when it comes to serious governance and policy making, simple facts given and they storm out. And I'm no Starmerite believe me:
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Negative local impact on Reform? on 10:47 - Mar 26 with 264 views
Read an interesting point in the Telegraph coverage of the visit.
Said that Reform are doing a lot of work trying to build relationships with businesses, many of whom may be reluctant to be seen to engage with them for the obvious reasons.
By 'getting one over' ITFC Reform might have scored a temporary publicity win, but the very public fallout will mean other businesses and orgs will now be more wary of getting involved with the party.
Negative local impact on Reform? on 23:22 - Mar 25 by Nutkins_Return
Whilst I would agree on a practical level the greens would be a disaster at least they are in the main well intentioned.
The idea that reform are less scary then the greens is absolutely mental. Reform are not only incompetent but they really are nasty, hateful human beings with masks on. People in Germany got fooled once. The US have been fooled recently. Do we not learn any lessons from history about these sorts of people.
On a practical level why would the Greens be a disaster? I admit the “establishment” mainstream media, and “the City” would make it very difficult for them.
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Negative local impact on Reform? on 12:56 - Mar 26 with 175 views
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