| Blue Monday Podcast 20:56 - Mar 29 with 1143 views | andyblue231 |
(Which I absolutely love).
Seem happy to move on. So do most of the commenters.
Doesn’t seem like there’s the will to hold feet any further to the fire.
Personally disappointed and won’t forgive Ashton for the mistake and then not fronting up properly, but if that’s the majority view then I suppose I will have to live with it.
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 21:07 - Mar 29 with 1047 views | J2BLUE |
What do you expect them to do?
Personally, I think Ashton will go in the summer. Until then we would just be damaging our own club. |  |
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 21:10 - Mar 29 with 1014 views | HampBlue |
Felt the guys handled it brilliantly. Gave opinions which I think the majority are probably aligned too. it was great discussion that’s not filled with completely polarised takes one way or the other
For some people their political views make any engagement with that party/individual unforgivable & they’ll never move forward unless Ashton moves on, and if that’s the case, fair enough.
But as a fanbase, turning up at 3pm on a Saturday - We need to put this to once side or risk dragging this on, dividing the fanbase further. | | | |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 21:12 - Mar 29 with 993 views | andyblue231 |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 21:07 - Mar 29 by J2BLUE |
What do you expect them to do?
Personally, I think Ashton will go in the summer. Until then we would just be damaging our own club. |
Personally I think being told by the club that protesting is damaging the club and we need to get behind the boys is a bit of an emotional blackmail move.
It’s what a lot of institutions say when they do something wrong.
We have the right to hold them to account without being thought of as traitors.
But as I say, if that’s the will then so be it. | | | |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 21:24 - Mar 29 with 920 views | itfc1108 |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 21:07 - Mar 29 by J2BLUE |
What do you expect them to do?
Personally, I think Ashton will go in the summer. Until then we would just be damaging our own club. |
Does Ashton have the type of job, where people are put on gardening leave for something like this, before dismissal/ mutual consent?
I don't really understand that process. [Post edited 29 Mar 21:25]
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 21:57 - Mar 29 with 729 views | andyblue231 |
At the very least I’d love this to be a wake up call to break up the CEO / Chairman roles. I don’t trust this guy to run the ship without oversight. | | | |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 22:11 - Mar 29 with 661 views | grow_our_own |
BM spent an hour running through the timeline of last week, yet couldn't find time to mention the gifting of shirts nor Ashton's lunch. Soft-balled these central facts / accusations. [Post edited 29 Mar 22:19]
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 22:17 - Mar 29 with 630 views | andyblue231 |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 22:11 - Mar 29 by grow_our_own |
BM spent an hour running through the timeline of last week, yet couldn't find time to mention the gifting of shirts nor Ashton's lunch. Soft-balled these central facts / accusations. [Post edited 29 Mar 22:19]
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Yeah I tend to agree but as I say love the show generally | | | |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 22:18 - Mar 29 with 623 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 21:24 - Mar 29 by itfc1108 |
Does Ashton have the type of job, where people are put on gardening leave for something like this, before dismissal/ mutual consent?
I don't really understand that process. [Post edited 29 Mar 21:25]
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Gardening leave is usually agreed when the business wants the employee to be prevented from joining a competitive business, so they agree to pay the individual for the duration of their contracted/notice period (could be as much as 12 months with this type of role), but don’t work (for anyone) during that time. | | | |
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 22:31 - Mar 29 with 547 views | unbelievablue |
Found it a bit galling they BBC-ed it to the point on not even naming Nigel Farage. |  |
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 23:01 - Mar 29 with 434 views | itfc1108 |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 22:18 - Mar 29 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Gardening leave is usually agreed when the business wants the employee to be prevented from joining a competitive business, so they agree to pay the individual for the duration of their contracted/notice period (could be as much as 12 months with this type of role), but don’t work (for anyone) during that time. |
Right, thanks for explaining. I'd just heard the term before and thought it was something to do with disciplinary reasons . Cheers. | | | |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 23:20 - Mar 29 with 363 views | bsw72 |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 22:18 - Mar 29 by SuffolkPunchFC |
Gardening leave is usually agreed when the business wants the employee to be prevented from joining a competitive business, so they agree to pay the individual for the duration of their contracted/notice period (could be as much as 12 months with this type of role), but don’t work (for anyone) during that time. |
Well, yes and no. If you are referring to where a company does not want you joining a competitor then that is down to a non compete clause, usually for 12 months so that the individual can’t take clients with them at the next renewal of contract, quite often senior brokers in insurance have this. This does not necessarily involve being kept on the salary or benefits though.
Gardening leave is when an individual working through their notice period and remains on salary and benefits but the company does not necessarily want you onsite but can contact you if required. This is more common where you don’t have clients but do perform a function which give you access to systems or data. Usually I have seen this where a company is unsure of the impact of someone leaving in a non client facing role and so they retain the option to call on them while not exposing the company to risk.
They are similar approaches but fundamentally different.
I don’t have a non compete clause but have a 6 month notice period which protects me and the company should I leave or they want to can me, however it will vary by geography as in the US notice periods are generally 2 weeks hence the need for a non compete clause. |  | | |
| They are too worried Ashton will restrict their access. on 23:22 - Mar 29 with 349 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Suspect they have been warned. |  |
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 23:23 - Mar 29 with 339 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 22:11 - Mar 29 by grow_our_own |
BM spent an hour running through the timeline of last week, yet couldn't find time to mention the gifting of shirts nor Ashton's lunch. Soft-balled these central facts / accusations. [Post edited 29 Mar 22:19]
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Thats sad, as I like the guys, and they do usually have strong views.
Sounds like they bottled it. | |
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 23:32 - Mar 29 with 271 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 22:11 - Mar 29 by grow_our_own |
BM spent an hour running through the timeline of last week, yet couldn't find time to mention the gifting of shirts nor Ashton's lunch. Soft-balled these central facts / accusations. [Post edited 29 Mar 22:19]
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Ben Bloom can't get through a single video without mentioning 50 times that everyone is entitled to their opinion even when its not about politicians so I wasn't really expecting him to put out a meaningful video on this. |  |
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 00:41 - Mar 30 with 135 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 23:20 - Mar 29 by bsw72 |
Well, yes and no. If you are referring to where a company does not want you joining a competitor then that is down to a non compete clause, usually for 12 months so that the individual can’t take clients with them at the next renewal of contract, quite often senior brokers in insurance have this. This does not necessarily involve being kept on the salary or benefits though.
Gardening leave is when an individual working through their notice period and remains on salary and benefits but the company does not necessarily want you onsite but can contact you if required. This is more common where you don’t have clients but do perform a function which give you access to systems or data. Usually I have seen this where a company is unsure of the impact of someone leaving in a non client facing role and so they retain the option to call on them while not exposing the company to risk.
They are similar approaches but fundamentally different.
I don’t have a non compete clause but have a 6 month notice period which protects me and the company should I leave or they want to can me, however it will vary by geography as in the US notice periods are generally 2 weeks hence the need for a non compete clause. |
Agreed, but I was trying to keep it simple, and I’d argue that they are pretty much the same, as it’s not just where non-compete clauses are involved. It’s more about protecting your business and/or IP in general. I do think we’re saying pretty much the same thing, but in a slightly different way tbh.
Whether it’s a senior executive with access to sensitive company information or an engineering position where they have knowledge/experience that you might not want to go elsewhere whilst it’s current, this can be protected by having contractually long notice periods. For all sensitive positions where I currently work the minimum notice period is 3 months, and can be up to 12 months.
In these positions it’s often too risky to have them continue working their notice period (for a whole variety of reasons). By putting someone on gardening leave, they are still tied to their contract of employment, so confidentiality is preserved. Plus many months of gardening leave detaches the employee from gaining further knowledge of the business during the gardening leave, mitigating any impact in taking their experience and knowledge elsewhere too soon.
This is very common in hi tech industries.
Another use is when you need to negotiate a complex termination agreement, which may often take months, but you don’t want the employee actively involved with the business. This would be the most likely scenario with the Town situation imo, if gardening leave was needed for a departing senior executive. [Post edited 30 Mar 0:43]
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| Blue Monday Podcast on 02:12 - Mar 30 with 42 views | Vaughan8 |
I'm surprised if true.
I believe that "itfcjoe" is on there and he made a thread saying "Ashton time to go." | | | |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 02:28 - Mar 30 with 31 views | BouncebackIpswich |
| Blue Monday Podcast on 23:32 - Mar 29 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Ben Bloom can't get through a single video without mentioning 50 times that everyone is entitled to their opinion even when its not about politicians so I wasn't really expecting him to put out a meaningful video on this. |
Agreed, I used to like him but find him quite tiresome these days, his ego seems to have gone through the roof. So thin skinned too spends most of his time whining about comments he doesn't like. |  |
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