| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands 10:56 - Mar 31 with 5427 views | breezy_runner |
Seeing talk of a protest being held before the game against Birmingham, trying to start chants of "Ashton out" during the game.
Can't we just put aside any political opinions we have and put all our efforts into supporting the team?
We need to pull together as one! |  | | |  |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:35 - Mar 31 with 536 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:32 - Mar 31 by TheMoralMajority |
I'm not sure what doing anything illegal has anything to do with it. That seems like an insane standard to set.
However, by not applying pressure, it allows the club to bury it under the carpet, change the narrative (although, I accept, recent events demonstrate that they are woefully inadequate at that!) and pretend it has all gone away.
It hasn't.
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That does not mean that the team should not get full support, be completely backed and, hopefully, be cheered on to promotion. They are entirely blameless in all of this, and it is a real shame that they have been caught up in it all. All we can do, as fans, is let them know they have our full support and try to ensure that they are not caught up in it any more.
I actually don't think you and I are that far apart. We want the best, and success, for our team. Where that is involved, we will (and should) be all pulling together [Post edited 31 Mar 11:35]
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And you genuinely believe the players wouldn't be affected by negative feelings in and around the stadium? | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:38 - Mar 31 with 518 views | Wright1 |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:09 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
No, I don't "know that deep down".
I just don't want Ashton or politics to derail our promotion bid. If the strength of feeling remains in June, it will carry just as much weight as it does in March.
I'd much rather unite around the team and Kieran, get promoted, and see a change at the top with us as a Premier League club. NOT looking back at a failed playoff campaign due to a disunited fan base. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:10]
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We have a disunited fanbase whether you like it or not. Sweeping this under the rug and pretending it didn't happen isn't suddenly going to bring everyone together.
The fans haven't caused this. The club's senior leadership may have derailed the season themselves through their own incompetence. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:38 - Mar 31 with 517 views | Blueschev |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:35 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
And you genuinely believe the players wouldn't be affected by negative feelings in and around the stadium? |
Do you genuinely believe the players have not been negatively impacted by their employers embrace of the far-right? |  | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:38 - Mar 31 with 512 views | ReusersTown |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:09 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
No, I don't "know that deep down".
I just don't want Ashton or politics to derail our promotion bid. If the strength of feeling remains in June, it will carry just as much weight as it does in March.
I'd much rather unite around the team and Kieran, get promoted, and see a change at the top with us as a Premier League club. NOT looking back at a failed playoff campaign due to a disunited fan base. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:10]
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Ashton has made himself and the club a political lightning rod, this doesn't go unless he does. So it's a simple equation. I also think you do know that if nothing happens now it will get swept under the rug, as Ashton is then able to point out that he is aligned with the fans if no discontent is shown. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:38 - Mar 31 with 512 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:35 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
And you genuinely believe the players wouldn't be affected by negative feelings in and around the stadium? |
Firstly, I am not advocating for negative feelings in the stadium, I am advocating for full support for the team... protests (if indeed there were to be any) can happen outside of the immediate vicinity of the players + match action.
Secondly, and it saddens me to say this, if there is negativity in the stands and around the stadium, that blame cannot be placed on the fans. Football is an emotional game. We are often born with our love of the club. That blame will lie solely at the door of one man, and one man alone.
This was all so thoroughly avoidable. But the team will always get my (and any sane thinking person's) full support, regardless of my views of what has gone on above them. |  |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:38 - Mar 31 with 512 views | Camul123 |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:32 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Who do you propose runs the club for the next couple of months then? Who does Kieran report to? And the rest of the staff? Think about it.
It's by no means an easy situation, but the right thing to do is deal with this properly in June. That's not me saying forget what's happened by June. The wounds are clearly there and deep, but a resignation/sacking is far too simplistic a view over a business as big as this. |
If Ashton knows he's going in June you would trust him making decisions in the best interests of ITFC?
Out the door on gardening leave asap.
Parachute in a temp CEO from the investor group - they'll have a handful on speed dial. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:41 - Mar 31 with 498 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:32 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Who do you propose runs the club for the next couple of months then? Who does Kieran report to? And the rest of the staff? Think about it.
It's by no means an easy situation, but the right thing to do is deal with this properly in June. That's not me saying forget what's happened by June. The wounds are clearly there and deep, but a resignation/sacking is far too simplistic a view over a business as big as this. |
The new CEO and the new Chairman. The fact we haven't already got a Chairman is a failing of the ownership and was pointed out when O'Leary didn't get replaced.
What do you think happens if Ashton becomes unable to do the job for any other reason other than his resignation/sacking?
It needs dealing with now to send the clear message this isn't a situation the club is endorsing/tolerating. |  |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:42 - Mar 31 with 496 views | thebooks |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:32 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Who do you propose runs the club for the next couple of months then? Who does Kieran report to? And the rest of the staff? Think about it.
It's by no means an easy situation, but the right thing to do is deal with this properly in June. That's not me saying forget what's happened by June. The wounds are clearly there and deep, but a resignation/sacking is far too simplistic a view over a business as big as this. |
By this logic nobody can ever be immediately removed from post ever. That is plain wrong.
Ashton should have left at the weekend. Every second he remains damages the club. |  | | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:42 - Mar 31 with 489 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:26 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
For the last fecking time. I'm not asking ANYONE to suck it up.
But park the issue for a short time for the good of OUR club. Him resigning would leave us in a big pickle from an ownership/administrative point of view. At least with an important part of the season to play.
I repeat. The time for facing the music/replacements is the close season. Some of you have got to start seeing this as adults rather than stamping your feet, kicking and screaming. As Blue Monday Podcast said, Ashton hasn't done "anything illegal" that's an immediately sackable offence. However, he's tarnished his rep and trust from the fanbase, which is likely irreparable. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:26]
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we've struggled on without a chairman for the best part of the year, we could do without a ceo for 6 weeks (in reality we'd appoint an interim at the very least).
what palpable difference would it make to our promotion push if he left tomorrow? his is more of a bigger picture position, than the nuts and bolts of day-to-day running | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:43 - Mar 31 with 485 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:38 - Mar 31 by Camul123 |
If Ashton knows he's going in June you would trust him making decisions in the best interests of ITFC?
Out the door on gardening leave asap.
Parachute in a temp CEO from the investor group - they'll have a handful on speed dial. |
They've got a load of CEOs with English football experience on speed dial have they? Right. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:43 - Mar 31 with 482 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:42 - Mar 31 by thebooks |
By this logic nobody can ever be immediately removed from post ever. That is plain wrong.
Ashton should have left at the weekend. Every second he remains damages the club. |
I'm saying there is a time and a place to be removed from post. From a footballing perspective, this absolutely is not the right time IMO. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:44 - Mar 31 with 476 views | ReusersTown |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:23 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Why would it be everywhere forever? Will Sunderland be known as Reform FC too then?
Wrexham are Hollywood FC because they have famous Hollywood owners, right? We were visited and manipulated by a divisive politician, but official links?! Absolutely not. He's not "one of us". We don't need to catastrophise. |
No 'we' (Ashton) have invited a right wing politician into the club and offered him a huge PR opportunity. As close to sponsorship as you can offer. Which has been nationally and Internationally spread. We weren't manipulated and Ashton hasn't even tried to indicate that we have been, he's just claimed others are lieing with nothing to back that up. (again wonder why...) | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:44 - Mar 31 with 478 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:15 - Mar 31 by positivity |
1) it's not political opinions, it's being made a national (international now?) laughing stock, being misled by the ceo and chairman, then the incompetent cover-up
2) not seen many saying we should chant ashton out during the game, personally don't see a problem with protests before or after
my own view as that we should be united behind the team and the manager for the 90 minutes. similarly, any divisive pro-farage chants should be shouted down immediately at source |
It’s rediculous pro farage chants would come into the area- it never has. - I feel any Ashton chants would be booed down within the stadium!
For the team Do what you feel is necessary outside!
And who knows Restore could take over from reform and the Green-Islamic co lab from labour by the GE |  | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:47 - Mar 31 with 462 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:43 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
I'm saying there is a time and a place to be removed from post. From a footballing perspective, this absolutely is not the right time IMO. |
from a footballing perspective, i'd say it's much better now than during a transfer window imho | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:48 - Mar 31 with 456 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:42 - Mar 31 by thebooks |
By this logic nobody can ever be immediately removed from post ever. That is plain wrong.
Ashton should have left at the weekend. Every second he remains damages the club. |
First sentence: Where on earth did you glean that from? I've never said anything of the sort. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:49 - Mar 31 with 440 views | portmanking |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:47 - Mar 31 by positivity |
from a footballing perspective, i'd say it's much better now than during a transfer window imho |
As a previous poster has said, how on earth do you expect to recruit a replacement right now? This is not a simple solution. Top targets are likely to be deep in their own respective seasons and will almost certainly have notice periods, just like Ashton did at Brizzle. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:52 - Mar 31 with 418 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:43 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
I'm saying there is a time and a place to be removed from post. From a footballing perspective, this absolutely is not the right time IMO. |
There never will be a "right" time.
To be clear. None of us wanted this. Even just a week ago it is inconceivable that my feelings towards the leadership of this club would be what they are now, They brought the love back when it had drained to apathy.
However, we can only respond to events as they unfold. The leadership gave no consideration to timing when they decided to turn around and kick themselves in the balls. That is not to say that we should also give no consideration, more, that we can only respond to what is in front of us. And what is in front of us is an absolute shit-show.
Except for 2 hours on Easter Monday when it will, god willing, be a tactical masterclass whilst we unite behind McKenna's men putting Birmingham to the sword. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:54]
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:53 - Mar 31 with 407 views | positivity |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:49 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
As a previous poster has said, how on earth do you expect to recruit a replacement right now? This is not a simple solution. Top targets are likely to be deep in their own respective seasons and will almost certainly have notice periods, just like Ashton did at Brizzle. |
you don't recruit immediately, you concentrate on the football.
the plans for the run-in are in place and people way down the pecking order from ashton will enact them.
the main thing distracting the players and the fans from football right now is mark ashton. let's get rid of him and focus on the football | |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:54 - Mar 31 with 397 views | ReusersTown |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:48 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
First sentence: Where on earth did you glean that from? I've never said anything of the sort. |
Well your implication was clear that if he hasn't done anything illegal then we can't remove him. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:55 - Mar 31 with 398 views | Libero |
I have no doubt that everyone will be supporting the team - but that's an aside from the current discontent caused by Modest Mark.
ASHTON OUT. |  | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:55 - Mar 31 with 394 views | Churchman |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:23 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Why would it be everywhere forever? Will Sunderland be known as Reform FC too then?
Wrexham are Hollywood FC because they have famous Hollywood owners, right? We were visited and manipulated by a divisive politician, but official links?! Absolutely not. He's not "one of us". We don't need to catastrophise. |
Nobody calls Arsenal Starmer FC and he has a free ticket every week. He also visited a number of clubs in the run up to the 2024 election. The likes of Northampton and Bristol Rovers are not called Starmer FC any more than Norwich are called Balls FC (might be a good name, mind) or Aston Villa William FC. It just doesn’t work like that.
A stain he may be, but Farage is a leader of a party (albeit nauseating) supported by 30% of voters and has done nothing illegal. He was at the club and hijacked it. It should never have happened, nor what followed. For that Ashton is accountable. Impact on the community aspect and sponsors alone will see the back of him.
But the players and most of the staff or supporters are not anything to do with it. Punishing them because of one CEO and maybe his acolytes seems strange to me.
So opposition supporters may take the p£ss. Who cares. Birmingham? A garbage club for a hole of a city supported by the worst Brum has to offer and owned by Americans who I’d be beyond surprised if they were democrats.
Yes, the rivals for promotion are happy. This last week and the division undoubtably within the club and outside means we are most likely finished for this season - in my view. |  | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:56 - Mar 31 with 388 views | Libero |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:09 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
No, I don't "know that deep down".
I just don't want Ashton or politics to derail our promotion bid. If the strength of feeling remains in June, it will carry just as much weight as it does in March.
I'd much rather unite around the team and Kieran, get promoted, and see a change at the top with us as a Premier League club. NOT looking back at a failed playoff campaign due to a disunited fan base. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:10]
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I'd rather we stayed in the Championship without Ashton than see him celebrating promotion with us at the end of the season.
Some things are just more important than football. | | | |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:56 - Mar 31 with 387 views | bluelagos |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:09 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
No, I don't "know that deep down".
I just don't want Ashton or politics to derail our promotion bid. If the strength of feeling remains in June, it will carry just as much weight as it does in March.
I'd much rather unite around the team and Kieran, get promoted, and see a change at the top with us as a Premier League club. NOT looking back at a failed playoff campaign due to a disunited fan base. [Post edited 31 Mar 11:10]
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Everyone wants promotion - but it's been reported the players were upset too. That is on Ashton, no one else.
All the club needs to do is announce he's moving on from the club in the summer and everyone's happy and focused again.
(Except those who actually think he is the man to unite the fans/players/staff)
This in on Ashton not anyone else and he needs to be out sooner rather than later. |  |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:59 - Mar 31 with 356 views | Scuzzer |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:22 - Mar 31 by thebooks |
Sorry, no. The pressure should be put on Ashton to leave, not on fans to suck it up. That is the single thing that would fix this problem. |
You really are a thin minded individual hell bent on virtue signalling. Just grow up. |  |
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| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:59 - Mar 31 with 351 views | bluelagos |
| Boro and Millwall must be watching at us and rubbing their hands on 11:16 - Mar 31 by portmanking |
Reform FC is *such* a childish way to view it.
The club is OURS, not Ashton's. Feck him. It's about us, our players and Kieran.
Ashton will face the music, but you anyone thinking you can fire your club's sole football administrator/figurehead and it not impacting the club day-to-day (in the most important month of the season) is sheer lunacy. |
Mate what do you think the "day to day" has been for the past week? You think anyone senior has done anything on the club looking forward etc?
The days are and will continue to be focused on this for the staff (hopefully not the players) due to the CEO's fckup.
It's on him, no one else. Get him out and we can all move on. | |
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