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Jack Clarke HAS to play 08:15 - Apr 23 with 3405 viewsChris_ITFC

If we get another pressure penalty, I can’t watch another Jaden one.

(Or, frankly, watch another 60 of Jaden getting bullied. We’ve developed none of the physicality in attack that we’ll need again in the Prem next season.)

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:18 - Apr 23 with 2374 viewsFlittonBlue

I was quite impressed with Jadens penalty last night considering he started his run up on platform 1 of the station, veered into the local pub before doing two laps of the ground and finally slotting it under the keeper!
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:24 - Apr 23 with 2322 viewsStokieBlue

Didn't think Philogene got bullied last night, he was good on the ball, very involved and caused the RB a hard time after the opening section of the game. By the time he went off he had the RB every time.

I think your Clarke bias is coming out a bit here, he's been pretty poor lately and the performance at Pompey was horrible. Been frustrated with him lately.

Probably an unpopular view but there you go.

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:26 - Apr 23 with 2284 viewspositivity

you're more likely to get a penalty late in the 2nd half, so that points to jaden starting and clarke coming on later!

jaden was bright yesterday, and always contribues far more as a starter than a sub

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:28 - Apr 23 with 2239 viewsnrb1985

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:24 - Apr 23 by StokieBlue

Didn't think Philogene got bullied last night, he was good on the ball, very involved and caused the RB a hard time after the opening section of the game. By the time he went off he had the RB every time.

I think your Clarke bias is coming out a bit here, he's been pretty poor lately and the performance at Pompey was horrible. Been frustrated with him lately.

Probably an unpopular view but there you go.

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I agree - Clarke has flattered to deceive coming on of late and thought it was another poor showing last night. Ditto Nunez. Neither had the desired effect of steadying the game.

Clarke has however been vital this year and was flogged for weeks while Jaden was out too. Will have played a big role if we go up and is nerveless from the spot (must be 2-3pts he’s rescued for us with last min pens?).
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:36 - Apr 23 with 2170 viewsoldbeardy

Wasn't the most convincing pen was it. On the other hand, I hated it when Clarke took a dive. I hate it when players clearly cheat - hate it when opposition players do it, hate it when ours do it. Should be a red or if not spotted retrospective punishment.
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:40 - Apr 23 with 2118 viewsStokieBlue

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:28 - Apr 23 by nrb1985

I agree - Clarke has flattered to deceive coming on of late and thought it was another poor showing last night. Ditto Nunez. Neither had the desired effect of steadying the game.

Clarke has however been vital this year and was flogged for weeks while Jaden was out too. Will have played a big role if we go up and is nerveless from the spot (must be 2-3pts he’s rescued for us with last min pens?).


Absolutely agree he's had a big part to play this season and definitely had a purple patch earlier in the season.

At the moment though, as you've pointed out as well, he's far from those levels.

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:42 - Apr 23 with 2103 viewsTRUE_BLUE123

If we go up please please please can we sign some athletic players.

Ashton said that would be our recruitment strategy and that just isn't the case. Our squad is so lacking in pace in power.

As for Jaden I thought he had an awful start to the game but he did grow in to it. He is quite a tough player to work out because what he does well, he does really well but I do just feel like his frame could hold him back in the long term.

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:46 - Apr 23 with 2060 viewsTractorJack

Bullied is an exaggeration. Couple of times he was shrugged off the ball, other refs may have given them. But he kept persevering and was still out most dangerous attacker. Crucial part in the first goal and very unlucky not get a second.
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 09:22 - Apr 23 with 1919 viewsTheGentlemanViking

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:46 - Apr 23 by TractorJack

Bullied is an exaggeration. Couple of times he was shrugged off the ball, other refs may have given them. But he kept persevering and was still out most dangerous attacker. Crucial part in the first goal and very unlucky not get a second.


Totally agree, I don't think he was bullied, I do think his touch was a bit off at the crucial moment and sometimes his decision making was questionable, but we got glimpses of the old Jaden.

A big injury and coming back into a side that is having to grind out hard fought points probably isn't going to give you the best example of his talents, but the couple of goals and frequent starts he's getting will help!
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 09:30 - Apr 23 with 1854 viewsBABLUE

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 09:22 - Apr 23 by TheGentlemanViking

Totally agree, I don't think he was bullied, I do think his touch was a bit off at the crucial moment and sometimes his decision making was questionable, but we got glimpses of the old Jaden.

A big injury and coming back into a side that is having to grind out hard fought points probably isn't going to give you the best example of his talents, but the couple of goals and frequent starts he's getting will help!


We could do with a couple of Jaden worldies on Saturday to get the win and leave us 2 games to get the final win that we need
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 09:32 - Apr 23 with 1829 viewsChris_ITFC

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:24 - Apr 23 by StokieBlue

Didn't think Philogene got bullied last night, he was good on the ball, very involved and caused the RB a hard time after the opening section of the game. By the time he went off he had the RB every time.

I think your Clarke bias is coming out a bit here, he's been pretty poor lately and the performance at Pompey was horrible. Been frustrated with him lately.

Probably an unpopular view but there you go.

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I purely want him on for the pens. He can stand playing with his shorts and his Alice band the rest of the time for all I care.

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 09:34 - Apr 23 with 1816 viewsFrimleyBlue

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:24 - Apr 23 by StokieBlue

Didn't think Philogene got bullied last night, he was good on the ball, very involved and caused the RB a hard time after the opening section of the game. By the time he went off he had the RB every time.

I think your Clarke bias is coming out a bit here, he's been pretty poor lately and the performance at Pompey was horrible. Been frustrated with him lately.

Probably an unpopular view but there you go.

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Very different yet similar players arent they

Jayden has a bit more close ball control but slows play down a bit

Clarke is looser with the ball imo but is a bit more direct but also looks like play others in where as jayden is more imo about how he can get the angle for the shot.

Neither is a bad thing. Just different styles.

Think with jayden it matters who is at lb with him. With clarke I dont think that matters as much.

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:22 - Apr 23 with 1691 viewsoncebluealwaysblue

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 08:26 - Apr 23 by positivity

you're more likely to get a penalty late in the 2nd half, so that points to jaden starting and clarke coming on later!

jaden was bright yesterday, and always contribues far more as a starter than a sub


Strange logic around a penalty being more likely later in the 2nd half.
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:48 - Apr 23 with 1589 viewscoote

Agree 100%

Philogene was terrible last night.

Is weak and slow.

If we go up try and flog him to Hull for a couple of million.
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:56 - Apr 23 with 1544 viewsRozz

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:22 - Apr 23 by oncebluealwaysblue

Strange logic around a penalty being more likely later in the 2nd half.


I think there's data proving this to be the case. Excuse the ai summary - the link to the actual source study is academic and I can't access:

Key Data Trends
Second Half Frequency: Studies indicate that roughly twice as many penalties are awarded in the second half compared to the first.
Late Game Concentration: Penalties are especially common late in the match, with a high concentration of awards occurring from the 70th minute onwards, particularly around the 80th-85th minute.
Why Penalties Increase Late:
Fatigue: Defensive players become tired, leading to poor tackling decisions and desperation fouls.
Pressure: The attacking team often increases pressure, pushing more players forward in search of a goal.
Time-Sensitive Fouls: Defenders may commit fouls late in the game while trying to stop a promising attack, often while fatigued.
Goal Correlation: There is a known pattern where a team playing against 10 men (following a red card) or holding a narrow lead is more susceptible to conceding a late penalty due to pressure.
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:58 - Apr 23 with 1525 viewsThe_Flashing_Smile

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:48 - Apr 23 by coote

Agree 100%

Philogene was terrible last night.

Is weak and slow.

If we go up try and flog him to Hull for a couple of million.


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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:01 - Apr 23 with 1512 viewspositivity

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:22 - Apr 23 by oncebluealwaysblue

Strange logic around a penalty being more likely later in the 2nd half.


statistically this is the case and it's logical (as players tire, they make more mistakes)

edit: just seen rozz's much better reply!
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:06 - Apr 23 with 1473 viewsStokieBlue

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:48 - Apr 23 by coote

Agree 100%

Philogene was terrible last night.

Is weak and slow.

If we go up try and flog him to Hull for a couple of million.


Hard to even know where to begin with that.

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:09 - Apr 23 with 1458 views_CliveBaker_

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:48 - Apr 23 by coote

Agree 100%

Philogene was terrible last night.

Is weak and slow.

If we go up try and flog him to Hull for a couple of million.


That's unfair.

There were a few occasions where he made the wrong decision in possession and got brushed off the ball a bit easily, but if you're expecting a player with the quick feet and low centre of gravity like Philogene to have the strength of O'Shea I think we'll be waiting a long time for it. He was still out most dangerous attacking threat last night and there were plenty of times where he found space but we needed to hit him earlier.

He made the 1st goal, lovely bit of play from him to beat his man and pull Coventry out of position.
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:13 - Apr 23 with 1434 viewsSomethingBlue

Jaden had a crucial impact last night. That first goal ... draws the defender and then releases the ball at the *very* last minute, he's so sharp, completely alters the dimension of the attack for us. Not the first time he's done precisely that this season, sounds simple but not that many do it well.

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:17 - Apr 23 with 1398 views_CliveBaker_

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:13 - Apr 23 by SomethingBlue

Jaden had a crucial impact last night. That first goal ... draws the defender and then releases the ball at the *very* last minute, he's so sharp, completely alters the dimension of the attack for us. Not the first time he's done precisely that this season, sounds simple but not that many do it well.


Yeah he absolutely mugged Conor Coventry on that one. Does his man, pulls Coventry out and sells him as well. Furlong still has a lot to do but there aren't many players in the division who can unpick a lock like Philogene can.
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:19 - Apr 23 with 1379 viewsBlooos

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:48 - Apr 23 by coote

Agree 100%

Philogene was terrible last night.

Is weak and slow.

If we go up try and flog him to Hull for a couple of million.


Jaden won man of the match by sky.. first half lost the ball a couple times but by the time he came off he had his man on strings. He's first name on the team sheet for me when fully fit, he can do things no one else in our squad can.
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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:30 - Apr 23 with 1295 viewsGeoffSentence

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 10:22 - Apr 23 by oncebluealwaysblue

Strange logic around a penalty being more likely later in the 2nd half.


I got Gemini to summarise penalty time data for the season

Time Interval (Minutes) Premier League Penalties Championship Penalties
1 – 15. 6 8
16 – 30. 12 10
31 – 45+. 15 11
46 – 60. 10 9
61 – 75. 14 13
76 – 90+. 27 22
Total 84 73

Excuse the lack of formatting it didn't cut and paste well.

Transfermarkt does have the timing for every penalty for anyone who can be bothered to check it manually.

Executive summary: penalties are much more likely in the end period of the game.

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:32 - Apr 23 with 1284 viewsTripSwitch

Is it crazy to say neither of them play. Anis in the left, Nunez 10, and Kasey right

Probably is crazy but they both flatter to deceive for me

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Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:33 - Apr 23 with 1271 viewsStokieBlue

Jack Clarke HAS to play on 11:32 - Apr 23 by TripSwitch

Is it crazy to say neither of them play. Anis in the left, Nunez 10, and Kasey right

Probably is crazy but they both flatter to deceive for me


Yes, it's silly.

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