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The ITFC womens team 16:12 - Apr 24 with 982 viewsgtsb1966

I wonder how much it costs to run a year and why do clubs have a womens team if they run at a loss.. Dont get me wrong I'm not knocking it and I'm all for it . I'm just curious because it's obvious our owners are here to hopefully make money if we become an established premier league team. Do the losses count towards the profit and sustainability figures?
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The ITFC womens team on 16:21 - Apr 24 with 912 viewsGuthrum

Losses on the women's team do not count against P&S.

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The ITFC womens team on 16:36 - Apr 24 with 834 viewsburnbudgiesburn

My thoughts on the womens team are that it would be irresponsible for any club not to take having a womens team seriously. It would be akin to those early English champions not taking the european cup seriously.

Look at the progress in womens football since Keys & Gray mocked it 20 years ago - it is a slower paced game than the mens, but the technical level is on a different planet now than it was back then.

Now fast forward 20 years from now and WSL/WSL2 is a mainstream sport, why would you not want your club to be one of the leading teams?
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The ITFC womens team on 17:00 - Apr 24 with 766 viewsurbanpenguin

Why do clubs have a men's team if it runs on a loss?
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The ITFC womens team on 17:03 - Apr 24 with 741 viewsBenters

The ITFC womens team on 17:00 - Apr 24 by urbanpenguin

Why do clubs have a men's team if it runs on a loss?


Why bother with football at all ?

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The ITFC womens team on 17:19 - Apr 24 with 703 viewsgtsb1966

The ITFC womens team on 17:00 - Apr 24 by urbanpenguin

Why do clubs have a men's team if it runs on a loss?


The mens teams have been around from the year dot. ...but you know that. I was merely asking how much does it cost and why are owners prepared to fund it when so many clubs are losing money. Im glad they do.
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The ITFC womens team on 17:25 - Apr 24 with 661 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

The ITFC womens team on 17:19 - Apr 24 by gtsb1966

The mens teams have been around from the year dot. ...but you know that. I was merely asking how much does it cost and why are owners prepared to fund it when so many clubs are losing money. Im glad they do.


Before the FA banned women's football for 50 years, women's football was actually more profitable than the men's game. Players for teams such as Dick Kerr's Ladies were bona fide celebrities, and in 1921 a 53k crowd was recorded at Goodison Park, with thousands turned away at the gate.

Hard to believe it, really, but it's true.
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The ITFC womens team on 17:28 - Apr 24 with 642 viewsgtsb1966

The ITFC womens team on 17:25 - Apr 24 by Hugoagogo_Reborn

Before the FA banned women's football for 50 years, women's football was actually more profitable than the men's game. Players for teams such as Dick Kerr's Ladies were bona fide celebrities, and in 1921 a 53k crowd was recorded at Goodison Park, with thousands turned away at the gate.

Hard to believe it, really, but it's true.
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I didn't know that. Thanks
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The ITFC womens team on 17:36 - Apr 24 with 608 viewsFreddies_Ears

A Women's team is part of the brand, bringing in more fans. Many, many fans of women's football do not go to see their mens team (I was surprised by that stat btw).

After being banned for so long, and many would say actively discouraged for even longer, the women's game is now growing very quickly. Crowds are growing, online interest is growing.

The cost of a women's team is roughly (rule of thumb, don't take it as applicable to every club!) the cost of the highest-paid men's player, where there is an equivalent men's team. So it is seen as a reasonable investment.
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The ITFC womens team on 17:59 - Apr 24 with 561 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

The ITFC womens team on 17:28 - Apr 24 by gtsb1966

I didn't know that. Thanks


The history of the Woman's game is actually very interesting. This is a good read if you wanted to know more.

https://www.worldofbooks.com/e

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The ITFC womens team on 18:01 - Apr 24 with 558 viewsMeadowlark

No-one (except Guthers) is answering your question. Everyone else is jumping on the "look at me - I love women's football" bandwagon like Rick in The Young Ones might have done.
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The ITFC womens team on 18:02 - Apr 24 with 554 viewsHugoagogo_Reborn

The ITFC womens team on 18:01 - Apr 24 by Meadowlark

No-one (except Guthers) is answering your question. Everyone else is jumping on the "look at me - I love women's football" bandwagon like Rick in The Young Ones might have done.


You ok, Hun?

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The ITFC womens team on 18:22 - Apr 24 with 494 viewsgtsb1966

The ITFC womens team on 18:01 - Apr 24 by Meadowlark

No-one (except Guthers) is answering your question. Everyone else is jumping on the "look at me - I love women's football" bandwagon like Rick in The Young Ones might have done.


I'll be honest here i dont watch hardly any womens football. Just not for me but im glad it's doing well. Football is for everyone.
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The ITFC womens team on 18:29 - Apr 24 with 465 viewsSwansea_Blue

I’m thinking that maybe the reason clubs have women’s teams is because women exist. That’s just a hunch though (a hunch about the reason, not whether women exist; I know they do as I’ve seen them out in the wild).

You could ask exactly the same question of the men’s game. Certainly at our level and below clubs can only continue to function through owners covering losses.

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The ITFC womens team on 18:33 - Apr 24 with 453 viewsSwansea_Blue

The ITFC womens team on 17:25 - Apr 24 by Hugoagogo_Reborn

Before the FA banned women's football for 50 years, women's football was actually more profitable than the men's game. Players for teams such as Dick Kerr's Ladies were bona fide celebrities, and in 1921 a 53k crowd was recorded at Goodison Park, with thousands turned away at the gate.

Hard to believe it, really, but it's true.
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Huh. That’s fascinating, thank you.

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The ITFC womens team on 18:34 - Apr 24 with 448 viewsgtsb1966

The ITFC womens team on 18:29 - Apr 24 by Swansea_Blue

I’m thinking that maybe the reason clubs have women’s teams is because women exist. That’s just a hunch though (a hunch about the reason, not whether women exist; I know they do as I’ve seen them out in the wild).

You could ask exactly the same question of the men’s game. Certainly at our level and below clubs can only continue to function through owners covering losses.


You cant ask the same question about the mens game. You're skewing the question. Your first paragraph has no relevance to what I asked. Stop stirring.
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The ITFC womens team on 18:51 - Apr 24 with 408 viewsEwan_Oozami

The ITFC womens team on 18:01 - Apr 24 by Meadowlark

No-one (except Guthers) is answering your question. Everyone else is jumping on the "look at me - I love women's football" bandwagon like Rick in The Young Ones might have done.


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The ITFC womens team on 19:29 - Apr 24 with 351 viewsMark

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The ITFC womens team on 19:33 - Apr 24 with 334 viewsMark

It's great that we have a successful ITFC Women side. I look forward to the day when they can play all their matches at Portman Road. I also look forward to the WSL2 stopping the discourtesy of scheduling women's matches the same day/time the men's side play - however can we grow the game and sell season tickets if they do that?!
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The ITFC womens team on 19:37 - Apr 24 with 327 viewsSwansea_Blue

The ITFC womens team on 18:34 - Apr 24 by gtsb1966

You cant ask the same question about the mens game. You're skewing the question. Your first paragraph has no relevance to what I asked. Stop stirring.


Sorry, what? You asked why do women’s teams exist if they make a loss. All I was saying is that they exist for exactly the same reason as men’s teams; because there’s a demand from people who want to play and football clubs are normally run at a loss irrespective of the gender of the team. Nothing more. No stirring.

PS, I was being flippant in my original reply though, so apologies for that 😊
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The ITFC womens team on 19:38 - Apr 24 with 327 viewsarmchaircritic59

The ITFC womens team on 17:00 - Apr 24 by urbanpenguin

Why do clubs have a men's team if it runs on a loss?


Ask Leicester, preferably after they've got something tonight!
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The ITFC womens team on 19:55 - Apr 24 with 281 viewsSwansea_Blue

The ITFC womens team on 19:29 - Apr 24 by Mark

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Pocket money compared to the £4.3M loss of their mens team in their last accounts. We had a £39M+ loss that year for a bit of further context. Of all the things wrong with football, having to put a bit of money into the women’s game is very low on my worry list.

Christ, I’m sounding like a real leftie these days lol

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The ITFC womens team on 19:55 - Apr 24 with 277 viewsMark

I just submitted a complaint on here about the scheduling of ITFC Women matches.

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The ITFC womens team on 21:22 - Apr 24 with 168 viewsNthQldITFC

The ITFC womens team on 18:01 - Apr 24 by Meadowlark

No-one (except Guthers) is answering your question. Everyone else is jumping on the "look at me - I love women's football" bandwagon like Rick in The Young Ones might have done.


That smacks of insecurity or something.

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The ITFC womens team on 21:26 - Apr 24 with 154 viewsJ2BLUE

Cheap to get started and potential for huge growth.

I would love to see Town in the WSL.

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