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Would you take two draws right now 10:21 - Apr 25 with 1109 viewsAxeldalai_lama

Leaving it as a straight shoot out last day, win at Portman road vs QPR and we're up?
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:27 - Apr 25 with 930 viewsGuthrum

I'd much prefer to get all four (or the full six) points in the next two games and leave QPR for the promotion party. Leaves less to chance and slip-ups.

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Would you take two draws right now on 10:28 - Apr 25 with 926 viewsWolfieAtTheBack

Not sure why folk are referring to drawing games now as the best way to get promoted.

We are missing sight of the objective, if we can't beat a nothing to play for QPR and WBA to get promoted then how in 4 months time are we going to give Man City and Arsenal a game in a league we know is really really tough.

Perspective required from certain factions of the fan base I am afraid.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:28 - Apr 25 with 921 viewsCheltenham_Blue

As a genuine question, because I'm intrigued.

Why? We are as prone to slipping up as anyone. A win against QPR isn't nailed on by any stretch. Why 'take' two draws to see us draw against QPR and end up in the Play Offs?

I don't need it to happen at PR. I'd like to go to Town next weekend totally relaxed and knowing it's just going to be a massive party.

Let's just get this done, as fast as possible.

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Would you take two draws right now on 10:33 - Apr 25 with 873 viewsAxeldalai_lama

Would you take two draws right now on 10:28 - Apr 25 by Cheltenham_Blue

As a genuine question, because I'm intrigued.

Why? We are as prone to slipping up as anyone. A win against QPR isn't nailed on by any stretch. Why 'take' two draws to see us draw against QPR and end up in the Play Offs?

I don't need it to happen at PR. I'd like to go to Town next weekend totally relaxed and knowing it's just going to be a massive party.

Let's just get this done, as fast as possible.


Its removing the doubt of maybe losing to an in form West Brom, and then the lottery of Southampton away.

It's not the best scenario, obviously, but leaves it in our hands on our patch. There is obviously a scenario where we don't have that luxury, however remote.

Basically I'm being a wuss! All irrelevant obviously and we'll smash West Brom and saints and have a nice relaxing party next weekend!
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:33 - Apr 25 with 869 viewsSwansea_Blue

I’d take two draws over two losses, but not under any other circumstance.

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Would you take two draws right now on 10:35 - Apr 25 with 855 viewsBlueBadger

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Would you take two draws right now on 10:37 - Apr 25 with 841 viewsAxeldalai_lama

Would you take two draws right now on 10:28 - Apr 25 by WolfieAtTheBack

Not sure why folk are referring to drawing games now as the best way to get promoted.

We are missing sight of the objective, if we can't beat a nothing to play for QPR and WBA to get promoted then how in 4 months time are we going to give Man City and Arsenal a game in a league we know is really really tough.

Perspective required from certain factions of the fan base I am afraid.


No one and I mean no one has referred to drawing games as the best way to get promoted, clearly that makes absolutely no logical sense.

The objective is promotion. Full stop. A big old chunk of this squad will not play much part next season in reality, so falling over the line or doing it with a game to spare makes no odds on how we'll play against City and Arsenal.

Not really sure what your last pompous statement even means.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:38 - Apr 25 with 827 viewsWolfieAtTheBack

Would you take two draws right now on 10:33 - Apr 25 by Axeldalai_lama

Its removing the doubt of maybe losing to an in form West Brom, and then the lottery of Southampton away.

It's not the best scenario, obviously, but leaves it in our hands on our patch. There is obviously a scenario where we don't have that luxury, however remote.

Basically I'm being a wuss! All irrelevant obviously and we'll smash West Brom and saints and have a nice relaxing party next weekend!


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Would you take two draws right now on 10:39 - Apr 25 with 818 viewsAxeldalai_lama

Would you take two draws right now on 10:33 - Apr 25 by Swansea_Blue

I’d take two draws over two losses, but not under any other circumstance.


I guess that's what it boils down to, yes! Obviously any win in the next 2 and we only need a point last day.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:41 - Apr 25 with 797 viewsWolfieAtTheBack

Would you take two draws right now on 10:37 - Apr 25 by Axeldalai_lama

No one and I mean no one has referred to drawing games as the best way to get promoted, clearly that makes absolutely no logical sense.

The objective is promotion. Full stop. A big old chunk of this squad will not play much part next season in reality, so falling over the line or doing it with a game to spare makes no odds on how we'll play against City and Arsenal.

Not really sure what your last pompous statement even means.


Pompous, how very dare you.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:41 - Apr 25 with 792 viewshammo56

Must admit that I’m concerned some fans seem to think that the QPR game is a guaranteed 3 points. If it goes down to the last game the pressure on all those teams involved will be massive.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:45 - Apr 25 with 731 viewsLA_Tractor_Boy

Would you take two draws right now on 10:28 - Apr 25 by WolfieAtTheBack

Not sure why folk are referring to drawing games now as the best way to get promoted.

We are missing sight of the objective, if we can't beat a nothing to play for QPR and WBA to get promoted then how in 4 months time are we going to give Man City and Arsenal a game in a league we know is really really tough.

Perspective required from certain factions of the fan base I am afraid.


I get your point, but the reality is that we've been unconvincing this season and will pretty much need a whole new stating 11 to compete in the PL.

We'll worry about that if we get there, but in the meantime this team needs to crawl over the line and earn their promotion bonus.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:46 - Apr 25 with 712 viewswkj

I've seen us fall far too many times on the last day of the season when we needed something, so no, today is the most "must win" mentality I have felt all season. Millwall gave us a gift last night, its highly unlikely that they are going to give us another.

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Would you take two draws right now on 10:47 - Apr 25 with 705 viewsGarv

No.

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Would you take two draws right now on 10:52 - Apr 25 with 665 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Would you take two draws right now on 10:45 - Apr 25 by LA_Tractor_Boy

I get your point, but the reality is that we've been unconvincing this season and will pretty much need a whole new stating 11 to compete in the PL.

We'll worry about that if we get there, but in the meantime this team needs to crawl over the line and earn their promotion bonus.


We're 3rd, a point behind and with 2 games in hand on Millwall.
This nonsense that we have been unconvincing this season isn't held up by our table position.

We've perhaps been less entertaining than in 2024, but teams have done everything to stifle us all season, exactly what was being done to Leeds in 2024 when they failed to go up.

The persistent negativity about us, our players and our performances on this board is draining. There is no reason at all that we can't beat WBA today, yes they've had some good results, but player for player we're way beyond them, the lack of belief amongst some fans is not the same thing as what we are actually capable of.

3 points today, 1 on Tuesday, Party on Saturday. Get it Done.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:52 - Apr 25 with 660 viewsWolfieAtTheBack

Would you take two draws right now on 10:45 - Apr 25 by LA_Tractor_Boy

I get your point, but the reality is that we've been unconvincing this season and will pretty much need a whole new stating 11 to compete in the PL.

We'll worry about that if we get there, but in the meantime this team needs to crawl over the line and earn their promotion bonus.


The messaging from the football club is we are wanting to be a sustainable PL team, so I am looking at the next bit and see WBA as a hump to have to deal with in the interim.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:56 - Apr 25 with 626 viewsfranz_tyson

No, go there to win. For me, it's an incredible opportunity. Go there to win, and if we get a draw then we take it, but if you win, it' takes such pressure off us and puts if on the chasing pack. Everyone thinks QPR is a guaranteed 3 points. It's not. Southampton are a form side and its an away game.That's maybe the result we can feel pretty happy with coming away with a draw.
I think a win today is a massive step forward. I wouldn't say seals promotion, but any team chasing us must feel deflated by if.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:56 - Apr 25 with 625 viewsandyblue231

100 per cent I'd take two draws. It's not perfect to leave yourself needing a win on the final day but the perfect is the enemy of the good.

If we lose today then we go to Southampton needing a point. Southampton who then feel they have a sniff. I guarantee we'd all be wishing we'd taken a point then.

I'd definitely take two draws.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:59 - Apr 25 with 595 viewsandyblue231

Would you take two draws right now on 10:28 - Apr 25 by WolfieAtTheBack

Not sure why folk are referring to drawing games now as the best way to get promoted.

We are missing sight of the objective, if we can't beat a nothing to play for QPR and WBA to get promoted then how in 4 months time are we going to give Man City and Arsenal a game in a league we know is really really tough.

Perspective required from certain factions of the fan base I am afraid.


We will be a completely different team in 4 months. Scraping over the line now is going to have zero impact on how we do in the PL. Sunderland were out played in the PL final and won it in the last minute. It doesn't matter.

One being happy to get promoted in an impressive way strike me as super entitled! If we need to shit house it over the line then so be it.
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Would you take two draws right now on 10:59 - Apr 25 with 594 viewsLA_Tractor_Boy

Would you take two draws right now on 10:52 - Apr 25 by Cheltenham_Blue

We're 3rd, a point behind and with 2 games in hand on Millwall.
This nonsense that we have been unconvincing this season isn't held up by our table position.

We've perhaps been less entertaining than in 2024, but teams have done everything to stifle us all season, exactly what was being done to Leeds in 2024 when they failed to go up.

The persistent negativity about us, our players and our performances on this board is draining. There is no reason at all that we can't beat WBA today, yes they've had some good results, but player for player we're way beyond them, the lack of belief amongst some fans is not the same thing as what we are actually capable of.

3 points today, 1 on Tuesday, Party on Saturday. Get it Done.
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Sorry, but IMO it's not nonsense.

I get that we've had to approach matches differently this season, but I stand by the fact we've been unconvincing.

We can get automatic promotion with 83 points, which is a pretty low total.
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Would you take two draws right now on 11:02 - Apr 25 with 541 viewsCheltenham_Blue

Would you take two draws right now on 10:59 - Apr 25 by LA_Tractor_Boy

Sorry, but IMO it's not nonsense.

I get that we've had to approach matches differently this season, but I stand by the fact we've been unconvincing.

We can get automatic promotion with 83 points, which is a pretty low total.


It isn't. 85 points has been enough for 2nd place consistently for years.

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Would you take two draws right now on 11:05 - Apr 25 with 512 viewsBlueschev

As wonderful as it was to win it at Portman Road in 2024, I was still bricking it until the final whistle! Not sure anything will be as special as that Huddersfield game so I’d definitely take just getting it done as quickly as possible.
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Would you take two draws right now on 11:06 - Apr 25 with 509 viewswkj

Would you take two draws right now on 10:59 - Apr 25 by LA_Tractor_Boy

Sorry, but IMO it's not nonsense.

I get that we've had to approach matches differently this season, but I stand by the fact we've been unconvincing.

We can get automatic promotion with 83 points, which is a pretty low total.


Im not sure I agree that we've been unconvincing, look at our GD for how much skill we have in the team. What we HAVE been is inconsistent. Unlike our last season in the championship and the one before, we were not able to put together a killer run of form, and the games we came undone on were commonly teams we should have had no issues getting a result with.

The reason for this, in my mind, is that our squad cohesion wasn't as solid as it was 2 years ago. We have better players than we did, but that team 2 years ago had genuine love and respect among them and they would have run themselves into the ground for each other.

It isn't a critique, but an acknowledgement that we had a team who knew they were lifting this club out of the shit after looking bad in L1. Overcame that stigma as a unit and then overcame the odds as they we're loving life and football together.

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Would you take two draws right now on 11:08 - Apr 25 with 484 viewsGlasgowBlue

No. Get 75% of the job done today.

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Would you take two draws right now on 11:14 - Apr 25 with 419 viewsLA_Tractor_Boy

Would you take two draws right now on 11:06 - Apr 25 by wkj

Im not sure I agree that we've been unconvincing, look at our GD for how much skill we have in the team. What we HAVE been is inconsistent. Unlike our last season in the championship and the one before, we were not able to put together a killer run of form, and the games we came undone on were commonly teams we should have had no issues getting a result with.

The reason for this, in my mind, is that our squad cohesion wasn't as solid as it was 2 years ago. We have better players than we did, but that team 2 years ago had genuine love and respect among them and they would have run themselves into the ground for each other.

It isn't a critique, but an acknowledgement that we had a team who knew they were lifting this club out of the shit after looking bad in L1. Overcame that stigma as a unit and then overcame the odds as they we're loving life and football together.


Well put. Inconsistent is probably a better way of explaining our struggles this season.

It's probably why I'm not counting my chickens that we'll get 4 points from the next 3 matches.
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