| O’Shea 09:26 - Apr 29 with 2974 views | cymroglas |
Driving home from the game last night (aside from the odd stray pass and boo boys saying he should not be captain) I was thinking that he’s the best centre half this club has had in a long time. |  | | |  |
| O’Shea on 09:28 - Apr 29 with 2359 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
He deserves a lot of credit. Matusiwa bless him has been pretty poor for a little while now, probably goosed and slightly injured it has left the 2 centre halves ALOT of defending to do.
Last night when Saints went forward they just ran straight through the midfield too many times and the back 4 were there to mop up so many times. |  |
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| O’Shea on 09:43 - Apr 29 with 2271 views | keighleyblue |
Greaves was excellent too (apart from the slide tackle for their first goal) |  | | |
| O’Shea on 09:44 - Apr 29 with 2253 views | FrimleyBlue |
Yep. Said it last season. Best cb since mogga possibly better than him too [Post edited 29 Apr 9:44]
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| O’Shea on 09:46 - Apr 29 with 2226 views | Garv |
| O’Shea on 09:43 - Apr 29 by keighleyblue |
Greaves was excellent too (apart from the slide tackle for their first goal) |
Was it even a foul? Meaty tackle but took a huge chunk of ball. |  |
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| O’Shea on 09:47 - Apr 29 with 2220 views | Garv |
POTS, and at this stage I don't think it's even close. | |
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| O’Shea on 09:48 - Apr 29 with 2205 views | surreyblue |
| O’Shea on 09:46 - Apr 29 by Garv |
Was it even a foul? Meaty tackle but took a huge chunk of ball. |
I think it was the right outcome. I'm not sure he got that much of the ball, particularly before he took the man. Might have got away with it 30 years ago but not today. |  | | |
| O’Shea on 09:50 - Apr 29 with 2186 views | surreyblue |
| O’Shea on 09:43 - Apr 29 by keighleyblue |
Greaves was excellent too (apart from the slide tackle for their first goal) |
The only thing with Greaves is that I'm not sure he is great in the air when he is being challenged. He always seems to prefer to head the ball with his feet on the ground, rather than going to win it early, and there have been a few times where he has tried to bring it down and clear it with his feet when he has gone up for an aerial duel.
Otherwise fantastic. | | | |
| O’Shea on 09:52 - Apr 29 with 2161 views | JammyDodgerrr |
| O’Shea on 09:46 - Apr 29 by Garv |
Was it even a foul? Meaty tackle but took a huge chunk of ball. |
100% was a foul. |  |
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| O’Shea on 09:53 - Apr 29 with 2158 views | Guthrum |
| O’Shea on 09:43 - Apr 29 by keighleyblue |
Greaves was excellent too (apart from the slide tackle for their first goal) |
If one wants to be really picky, it was a mistake for Greaves to commit himself to the attempted tackle on Larin at the same time as Davis, just before the second goal. Had he kept a pace or two back, unengaged, then the Soton striker wouldn't have so easily been able to get a shot away.
However, that is probably quite harsh. It was a split-second decision in the face of a bit of high skill and was within Greaves' defensive zone. |  |
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| O’Shea on 09:53 - Apr 29 with 2153 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| O’Shea on 09:47 - Apr 29 by Garv |
POTS, and at this stage I don't think it's even close. |
It'll be criminal if he doesn't get it. |  | | |
| O’Shea on 09:54 - Apr 29 with 2141 views | SomethingBlue |
Yep, the guy is absolutely bossing games back there, he's class and deserves to be in the Premier League. | |
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| O’Shea on 09:55 - Apr 29 with 2115 views | Reuser_is_God |
| O’Shea on 09:53 - Apr 29 by Guthrum |
If one wants to be really picky, it was a mistake for Greaves to commit himself to the attempted tackle on Larin at the same time as Davis, just before the second goal. Had he kept a pace or two back, unengaged, then the Soton striker wouldn't have so easily been able to get a shot away.
However, that is probably quite harsh. It was a split-second decision in the face of a bit of high skill and was within Greaves' defensive zone. |
Also Greaves committed to winning the ball a lot last night & was more successful than not in doing so. |  |
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| O’Shea on 09:59 - Apr 29 with 2066 views | Guthrum |
| O’Shea on 09:55 - Apr 29 by Reuser_is_God |
Also Greaves committed to winning the ball a lot last night & was more successful than not in doing so. |
Indeed. It is only that one instance when both went for the tackle and missed, patly getting in each other's way. | |
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| O’Shea on 10:12 - Apr 29 with 1956 views | Garv |
| O’Shea on 09:53 - Apr 29 by _CliveBaker_ |
It'll be criminal if he doesn't get it. |
For me it's O'Shea 1st, he was winning back post headers again with ease again last night, including the one to set up the equalizer.
Probably Matusiwa 2nd for his overall impact and ability to keep going despite clearly being injured - any other player would be on the bench at the moment. His tackling ability is incredible, I do just worry about his pace and quality on the ball in the PL.
Then Clarke has to take third for his goals and composure for all the late goals/penalties. I still think he and Philogene should be offering more assists but you can't ignore the impact Clarke has, it's almost an old school attitude of "just give the ball to Jack" at times which is great.
Honorable mentions:
Greaves
Furlong
Walton
Taylor | |
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| O’Shea on 10:53 - Apr 29 with 1764 views | keighleyblue |
| O’Shea on 10:12 - Apr 29 by Garv |
For me it's O'Shea 1st, he was winning back post headers again with ease again last night, including the one to set up the equalizer.
Probably Matusiwa 2nd for his overall impact and ability to keep going despite clearly being injured - any other player would be on the bench at the moment. His tackling ability is incredible, I do just worry about his pace and quality on the ball in the PL.
Then Clarke has to take third for his goals and composure for all the late goals/penalties. I still think he and Philogene should be offering more assists but you can't ignore the impact Clarke has, it's almost an old school attitude of "just give the ball to Jack" at times which is great.
Honorable mentions:
Greaves
Furlong
Walton
Taylor |
agree 100% with your assessment | | | |
| O’Shea on 10:54 - Apr 29 with 1742 views | homer_123 |
| O’Shea on 09:53 - Apr 29 by Guthrum |
If one wants to be really picky, it was a mistake for Greaves to commit himself to the attempted tackle on Larin at the same time as Davis, just before the second goal. Had he kept a pace or two back, unengaged, then the Soton striker wouldn't have so easily been able to get a shot away.
However, that is probably quite harsh. It was a split-second decision in the face of a bit of high skill and was within Greaves' defensive zone. |
Classic press and cover situation. They both pressed.
As you say had Greaves covered...goal 'may' have been averted. |  |
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| O’Shea on 10:56 - Apr 29 with 1719 views | leitrimblue |
| O’Shea on 09:46 - Apr 29 by Garv |
Was it even a foul? Meaty tackle but took a huge chunk of ball. |
It was what my old man would call a firm but fair challenge. Games gone |  | | |
| O’Shea on 10:58 - Apr 29 with 1707 views | portmanking |
| O’Shea on 10:12 - Apr 29 by Garv |
For me it's O'Shea 1st, he was winning back post headers again with ease again last night, including the one to set up the equalizer.
Probably Matusiwa 2nd for his overall impact and ability to keep going despite clearly being injured - any other player would be on the bench at the moment. His tackling ability is incredible, I do just worry about his pace and quality on the ball in the PL.
Then Clarke has to take third for his goals and composure for all the late goals/penalties. I still think he and Philogene should be offering more assists but you can't ignore the impact Clarke has, it's almost an old school attitude of "just give the ball to Jack" at times which is great.
Honorable mentions:
Greaves
Furlong
Walton
Taylor |
Matusiwa's lack of quality on the ball (especially on the half turn) is a major red flag for me.
For him to excel in the PL he's going to need some serious ball progressors around him (*cough* Hackney *cough*) | | | |
| O’Shea on 10:58 - Apr 29 with 1705 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| O’Shea on 10:12 - Apr 29 by Garv |
For me it's O'Shea 1st, he was winning back post headers again with ease again last night, including the one to set up the equalizer.
Probably Matusiwa 2nd for his overall impact and ability to keep going despite clearly being injured - any other player would be on the bench at the moment. His tackling ability is incredible, I do just worry about his pace and quality on the ball in the PL.
Then Clarke has to take third for his goals and composure for all the late goals/penalties. I still think he and Philogene should be offering more assists but you can't ignore the impact Clarke has, it's almost an old school attitude of "just give the ball to Jack" at times which is great.
Honorable mentions:
Greaves
Furlong
Walton
Taylor |
Yep, agree with all of that. O'Shea has been immense of late, even forgetting the captaincy stuff, his defensive contribution in its own right has been of such a high standard.
I have similar thoughts on Matusiwa, now probably isn't the time to voice them but I fear for him at that level. Not doubt injury / fatigue isn't helping, but throughout the season I've questioned his use of the ball, the speed of thought and execution has been lacking at times. A monster out of possession though, perhaps it would suit him in a league where we would see less of the ball. | | | |
| O’Shea on 11:05 - Apr 29 with 1659 views | tractorshark |
Said a couple of weeks ago, he’s definitely the player of the season.
A couple of months ago, I would have said Matusiwa would have run him close but not now.
O’Shea is the rock of this team, a seriously good defender. Yes, he’s had a couple of bad games this season but they all have.
For me, he’s been excellent for the most part and he’s developing into an inspirational leader, which even his critics can now acknowledge.
To think some people thought Woolfy was better is beyond me.
But even that was surpassed by one well-known poster describing O’Shea as the worst footballer he’d seen in an Ipswich Town shirt after one poor performance.
That just speaks volumes about their footballing knowledge.
O’Shea should be a shoo-in for player of the year and it’s good to see him getting the praise he deserves. | | | |
| O’Shea on 11:20 - Apr 29 with 1573 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| O’Shea on 10:58 - Apr 29 by portmanking |
Matusiwa's lack of quality on the ball (especially on the half turn) is a major red flag for me.
For him to excel in the PL he's going to need some serious ball progressors around him (*cough* Hackney *cough*) |
For him to excel in the Prem he is going to need a 3 man midfield for sure. He would get eaten alive in a 2 man midfield imo. | |
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| O’Shea on 11:23 - Apr 29 with 1552 views | portmanking |
| O’Shea on 11:20 - Apr 29 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
For him to excel in the Prem he is going to need a 3 man midfield for sure. He would get eaten alive in a 2 man midfield imo. |
Yes, I think a midfield of something like Matusiwa deep with Hackney and Marcel Ruiz either side would be epic. | | | |
| O’Shea on 11:25 - Apr 29 with 1536 views | FrimleyBlue |
| O’Shea on 10:58 - Apr 29 by portmanking |
Matusiwa's lack of quality on the ball (especially on the half turn) is a major red flag for me.
For him to excel in the PL he's going to need some serious ball progressors around him (*cough* Hackney *cough*) |
I love Azor, but the more i've watched him, that speed or lack thereof of his half turn is incredibly slow motion. Morsy got away with it because his body held off players, but even he showed that didn't work in the prem as they are bigger and more athletic. Thinking about Azor and the pace of prem presses is an incredibly scary thought when he's quite often harried by champ press systems.
Unless we do go up and next season ignore that pivot and concentrate on getting the ball high rather than trying to bring the ball out. | |
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| O’Shea on 11:28 - Apr 29 with 1525 views | MalcolmBlue |
| O’Shea on 09:47 - Apr 29 by Garv |
POTS, and at this stage I don't think it's even close. |
Agreed! It has to be his.
In fact the only other person I would want to see win it would be Burns, but only because of his contract situation and just as a way for the fans to thank him for his contribution over the past few seasons. |  |
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| O’Shea on 11:29 - Apr 29 with 1516 views | TractorJack |
Did anyone else see the stat about him winning the most first contacts from corners in the league? Criminal we haven't made the most of that. |  | | |
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