| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... 16:14 - May 6 with 2173 views | Linners |
...I'd be advising Kieran to move on, if there's another PL or top flight option.
Whatever happens in the summer we're going to be one of the favourites for relegation and I think KMcK's reputation would be seriously damaged if he has two PL failures on his record. And there will only be so much he can control.
Leave now and join (for example) Palace and he gives himself a much better chance of being a long-term top-flight manager. |  | | |  |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 16:23 - May 6 with 2068 views | cressi |
Your talking codswallop his far better here credit in the bank. He also has a massive say in things he like the training ground. A bad start elsewhere and it's generally bye bye. |  | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 16:24 - May 6 with 2058 views | Bellevue_Blue |
It works both ways though doesn't it.
If he fails at Palace,(failure being flirting with relegation) then he's out and the next job he gets is a Championship job.
At least at Ipswich he's in total control.
If he was going to go to Palace, it would have been back in 2024. They're got a worse squad now and we've got a better one. | | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 16:26 - May 6 with 2053 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Not completely disagreeing. But there is potential for a lot to go wrong in a palace type job. Mid to lower prem, not necessarily full control, seen as a lesser name by some. If he doesn't hit the ground running, team slips a little close to the bottom few places he could be under pressure pretty soon.
I think he has another year here, he's only just about to turn 40. If he does well and keeps us up he'll have more power, if it's another relegation then I don't see it loses him anytging. Maybe wishful thinking, but he's go time on his side and holding most of the cards here, one more year, in full ish control, then I'm sure he'll be off and we can all cry. |  | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 16:35 - May 6 with 1949 views | TripSwitch |
I make you right. Of course there will be things behind the scenes, family life etc, which we don't know about which will also be a big influence on his decision.
I just get the feeling some elements of this season have peed him off and it might tip the balance of him leaving. |  |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 16:41 - May 6 with 1892 views | Ftnfwest |
Palace will be a graveyard for the next boss, they've over performed in the last year, likely to have two 'major' trophies won but Glasners leaving because he can see the writing on the wall in terms of recruitment. This conference thing is basically them and a load of L1 standard teams but it will still put huge pressure on whoever takes over plus a major rebuild. Don't know but would be very surprised if he was interested in that. He is very settled in the area which counts for a lot, particularly when you're being well rewarded as well. |  | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 16:47 - May 6 with 1842 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 16:35 - May 6 by TripSwitch |
I make you right. Of course there will be things behind the scenes, family life etc, which we don't know about which will also be a big influence on his decision.
I just get the feeling some elements of this season have peed him off and it might tip the balance of him leaving. |
I don't think anything has peed him off, he just said it was harder and I think he meant that competitively.
He was gelling a new team, an increasingly international team that wasn't performing particularly well and every team he came up against was either sitting right back or they were a much stronger 'team' than us. | | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 17:06 - May 6 with 1744 views | ITFC_Essex |
The difference is, if we go down and he will still have his job here.
If he loses a handful of games elsewhere, he will be gone. |  |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 17:29 - May 6 with 1618 views | Ewan_Oozami |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 16:24 - May 6 by Bellevue_Blue |
It works both ways though doesn't it.
If he fails at Palace,(failure being flirting with relegation) then he's out and the next job he gets is a Championship job.
At least at Ipswich he's in total control.
If he was going to go to Palace, it would have been back in 2024. They're got a worse squad now and we've got a better one. |
Whilst I agree the squad might be slightly worse than 2024, they have since then won the FA Cup and are in with a good shout of the Europa Conference League final! |  |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 17:43 - May 6 with 1550 views | Guthrum |
Palace may have won the FA Cup and got themselves into Europe, but they are not that bouyant in the Prem, only just above the relegation battle. Which may be why Glasner is off. |  |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 17:46 - May 6 with 1538 views | Illinoisblue |
Counter: he’s building something here - new training ground designed to his specs, stadium improvements, yet more investment into the squad, adored by the fans - hard to get that anywhere else.
I think the only jobs he’d leave for are Spurs or Man United and neither of them are happening right now (unless Zerbi fk’s it up from here and spurs go down) |  |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 17:51 - May 6 with 1489 views | backwaywhen |
Flip side ….keep us up and his stock soars again , I’m also sure that’s what he wants to achieve here . | | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 17:56 - May 6 with 1437 views | J2BLUE |
Depends on the job. Top half of the Prem or Newcastle/Spurs then yes. Other teams, not so much.
He's only just turning 40. It's not exactly make or break for him this season.
Hopefully being on good money with a young family and managing in the Prem will keep him here at least one more season. |  |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 17:59 - May 6 with 1416 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 17:29 - May 6 by Ewan_Oozami |
Whilst I agree the squad might be slightly worse than 2024, they have since then won the FA Cup and are in with a good shout of the Europa Conference League final! |
If anything that isn't a good situation for an incoming manager.
The manager that succeeds anyone who has significantly overachieved has all of the expectations of the previous regime and none of the credit in the bank.
Moyes at United post Fergie, Pellegrini at West Ham post Moyes, Emery at Arsenal post Wenger are a couple of examples that come to mind. | | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 18:11 - May 6 with 1362 views | Blue_Heath |
Palace are at the top of where they have been in their entire history, I'd suggest it's definitely not a place to go.
However, your other points are valid, why people feel the need to downvote I don't know.
Hopefully the pay off to get him, the training ground, his family being settled etc means he stays but we will be one of the faves to go down no doubt about that. Looking at the points tally this year to stay up it's going to be a huge ask.
For KM personally yes a move may be better but it has to be the right one, most prem clubs are very quick to get rid when things go wrong whereas I'd suggest he's safe here. If he does keep us up I'd expect he'd have many clubs wanting him the season after.
Celtic would be my biggest worry but I don't think they'll pay the compensation. | |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 19:22 - May 6 with 1220 views | armchaircritic59 |
If I was advising Kieran ( which is extremely unlikely ), I'd say to him exactly what I'd imagine he'd be thinking anyway. If you have options, consider them carefully and do what you think is right for you and your family in the short to medium term at best. Doesn't pay to look too far ahead if you're a football manager! |  | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 19:37 - May 6 with 1098 views | darkhorse28 |
So he gets a lot of love here, and rightly so.
You might be right, but he’ll get backing here financially, and off the field. He gets a full season I suspect to get it right.
At Palace he gets six minutes. 14 managers is it sacked this season?
When you’re new in the door, and there’s no emotional attachment, managers don’t get long.
He’ll get - spent £140 million to get relegated. Milwall will troll them with ‘spent £200 million’ to be 1 point above us.
He’ll get until the first set of really bad results at palace - and not sure if they lose some players that are leaving with their manager this summer, how much ahead of us they will be.
I’m not sure they’ll match his wages either.
He won’t chose Palace ahead of what he knows, not hard to see he has a better chance here than either all their change.
Is it Mateta leaving, Sarr and a few others .., they could be in trouble next season, get a feeling Glasner is the show at Palace - he’s SO good .., made Will Hughes into a player than ran absolute rings around us, and that’s not easy.
Brighton or even Bournemouth, but think he knows he gets time here that he gets nowhere else. | | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 20:34 - May 6 with 997 views | Rimsy |
The thing with McK, getting a team to play the way he wants takes time. Time he's not likely to get anywhere else. His career could easily nosedive if he takes the wrong path. |  |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 06:01 - May 7 with 696 views | Blue_Heath |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 19:37 - May 6 by darkhorse28 |
So he gets a lot of love here, and rightly so.
You might be right, but he’ll get backing here financially, and off the field. He gets a full season I suspect to get it right.
At Palace he gets six minutes. 14 managers is it sacked this season?
When you’re new in the door, and there’s no emotional attachment, managers don’t get long.
He’ll get - spent £140 million to get relegated. Milwall will troll them with ‘spent £200 million’ to be 1 point above us.
He’ll get until the first set of really bad results at palace - and not sure if they lose some players that are leaving with their manager this summer, how much ahead of us they will be.
I’m not sure they’ll match his wages either.
He won’t chose Palace ahead of what he knows, not hard to see he has a better chance here than either all their change.
Is it Mateta leaving, Sarr and a few others .., they could be in trouble next season, get a feeling Glasner is the show at Palace - he’s SO good .., made Will Hughes into a player than ran absolute rings around us, and that’s not easy.
Brighton or even Bournemouth, but think he knows he gets time here that he gets nowhere else. |
Agree re Glasner what he has done at Palace is remarkable. I wouldn't want to be the guy following him. | |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 06:40 - May 7 with 637 views | franz_tyson |
I can see the OP's point.... to ride a wave and jump ship at the right time before.... 3 promotions and 1 relegation turns into 2 relegations. However, there would be great kudos in him avoiding relegation. That would broaden his reputation and he wouldn't be just someone who can do promotions. There's risks in him leaving. He could make a bad start at Palace or whoever and the fans turn quickly over 5-10 games and he has no credit in the bank there. Could be out by Christmas and Dychey replaces him.
Dunno.... can see it both ways. Just hope its an early decision and there's no will he / won't he. I really want him to stay, but not where he outstays his time here. | | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 08:00 - May 7 with 545 views | MVBlue |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 16:26 - May 6 by Axeldalai_lama |
Not completely disagreeing. But there is potential for a lot to go wrong in a palace type job. Mid to lower prem, not necessarily full control, seen as a lesser name by some. If he doesn't hit the ground running, team slips a little close to the bottom few places he could be under pressure pretty soon.
I think he has another year here, he's only just about to turn 40. If he does well and keeps us up he'll have more power, if it's another relegation then I don't see it loses him anytging. Maybe wishful thinking, but he's go time on his side and holding most of the cards here, one more year, in full ish control, then I'm sure he'll be off and we can all cry. |
I now see the biggest risk of him leaving is to go to a cushy less intense league like the Scottish Premiership, German or even Italian league.
Gerrard did it, Vincent Company did it from Burnley, even Gary Neville went to Valencia. Those would be the biggest risk now mot another Prem club until he figures the Prem out. |  |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 09:31 - May 7 with 423 views | dirtyboy |
He's building something.
He's probably enjoying seeing the club go from a run down L1 club towards the aim of being an established Premier League team.
There's still a way to go and whilst the management and owners keep giving him the resources to progress, he's likely to stay until the big boys start knocking. |  | | |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 10:53 - May 7 with 331 views | LuciBlue |
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| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 12:54 - May 7 with 204 views | Radlett_blue |
| Hear me out on this one, but if I wasn't a Town fan... on 18:11 - May 6 by Blue_Heath |
Palace are at the top of where they have been in their entire history, I'd suggest it's definitely not a place to go.
However, your other points are valid, why people feel the need to downvote I don't know.
Hopefully the pay off to get him, the training ground, his family being settled etc means he stays but we will be one of the faves to go down no doubt about that. Looking at the points tally this year to stay up it's going to be a huge ask.
For KM personally yes a move may be better but it has to be the right one, most prem clubs are very quick to get rid when things go wrong whereas I'd suggest he's safe here. If he does keep us up I'd expect he'd have many clubs wanting him the season after.
Celtic would be my biggest worry but I don't think they'll pay the compensation. |
McKenna's achievements with Town to date don't prove he's more than a very good Championship manager. Arguably, Scott Parker has achieved as much as him. If he can keep Town up next season, that will be a big achievement but it will be hugely dependent on how well Town recruit in the summer & that's only partly down to McKenna.
If he has long term designs on managing a really big club, he needs to get some PL credibility & that is more likely to be achieved by taking over a middling PL club like Palace. |  |
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