| Hopefully 22:46 - May 12 with 1752 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
Now the EFL will boot Southampton out of the play offs.
That’ll learn em |  |
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| Hopefully on 22:49 - May 12 with 1662 views | Hugoagogo_Reborn |
And to think we were the pantomime villains this season, accused of cheating! It really leaves a bitter taste in the mouth watching their fans and players celebrate and make jokes about spying.
Nasty club. [Post edited 12 May 22:49]
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| Hopefully on 22:51 - May 12 with 1578 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
They won’t. Best we can hope for is a points deduction in the PL |  |
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| Hopefully on 22:54 - May 12 with 1511 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Hopefully on 22:51 - May 12 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
They won’t. Best we can hope for is a points deduction in the PL |
I think they could disqualify them if they are found guilty. But it has to happen quickly.
How can they justify a points deduction next season in a league thats not even the efl and southampton go on and get £180 mill or what ever it is. Its rewarding cheating. But thats if they are found guilty. |  |
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| Hopefully on 22:54 - May 12 with 1522 views | EsherBlueStu |
Won't be a points deduction next year if they are promoted as EFL have no jurisdiction in EPL. |  | | |
| Hopefully on 22:55 - May 12 with 1481 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hopefully on 22:54 - May 12 by EsherBlueStu |
Won't be a points deduction next year if they are promoted as EFL have no jurisdiction in EPL. |
There’s been conversations of cross sanctions since the Leicester debacle I believe. | |
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| Hopefully on 22:57 - May 12 with 1451 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hopefully on 22:54 - May 12 by FrimleyBlue |
I think they could disqualify them if they are found guilty. But it has to happen quickly.
How can they justify a points deduction next season in a league thats not even the efl and southampton go on and get £180 mill or what ever it is. Its rewarding cheating. But thats if they are found guilty. |
They got charged immediately I don’t think there’s much doubt at this point. I just can’t imagine them chucking them out, maybe if there’s evidence of previous this season. | |
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| Hopefully on 22:59 - May 12 with 1389 views | FrimleyBlue |
| Hopefully on 22:57 - May 12 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
They got charged immediately I don’t think there’s much doubt at this point. I just can’t imagine them chucking them out, maybe if there’s evidence of previous this season. |
Think thats key. I imagine many clubs are looking at cctv footage
What is it 21 games unbeaten since he the manager took over.
I dont know what legal case boro have too. Yes theyve lost the game and there would still be a final to play but they've lost out on a load of money potentially to a club who cheated. | |
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| Hopefully on 23:02 - May 12 with 1374 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Hopefully on 22:57 - May 12 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
They got charged immediately I don’t think there’s much doubt at this point. I just can’t imagine them chucking them out, maybe if there’s evidence of previous this season. |
There’s a legitimate argument that spying handed them enough info to win.
In either case, I would be pretty certain that by the weekend we hear of potential legal action by Boro. | |
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| Hopefully on 23:03 - May 12 with 1352 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Hopefully on 22:54 - May 12 by EsherBlueStu |
Won't be a points deduction next year if they are promoted as EFL have no jurisdiction in EPL. |
Even without an identical anti-spying regulation, the Premier League has broad rules around:
- utmost good faith
- integrity of competition
- conduct bringing the league into disrepute
So hypothetically, if:
Southampton were found guilty by an EFL commission then promoted ...
the PL could potentially argue:
“This conduct undermined sporting integrity and is incompatible with league standards.”
Then:
- a PL independent commission could impose its own sanction. | | | |
| Hopefully on 23:07 - May 12 with 1292 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hopefully on 22:59 - May 12 by FrimleyBlue |
Think thats key. I imagine many clubs are looking at cctv footage
What is it 21 games unbeaten since he the manager took over.
I dont know what legal case boro have too. Yes theyve lost the game and there would still be a final to play but they've lost out on a load of money potentially to a club who cheated. |
They’ve also picked the wrong chairman to do it to. | |
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| Hopefully on 23:08 - May 12 with 1275 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Hopefully on 22:59 - May 12 by FrimleyBlue |
Think thats key. I imagine many clubs are looking at cctv footage
What is it 21 games unbeaten since he the manager took over.
I dont know what legal case boro have too. Yes theyve lost the game and there would still be a final to play but they've lost out on a load of money potentially to a club who cheated. |
I’d imagine championship clubs will be happy for Southampton to be promoted. |  | | |
| Hopefully on 23:27 - May 12 with 1150 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Hopefully on 22:55 - May 12 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
There’s been conversations of cross sanctions since the Leicester debacle I believe. |
It’s more than conversations - both the EFL and the PL updated their rules to allow sanctions to follow the clubs. So the rules now allow it in both associations. | | | |
| Hopefully on 23:31 - May 12 with 1122 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Hopefully on 23:27 - May 12 by SuffolkPunchFC |
It’s more than conversations - both the EFL and the PL updated their rules to allow sanctions to follow the clubs. So the rules now allow it in both associations. |
Yep, that could be huge, Southampton starting on -6 would be nice. | |
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| Hopefully on 00:05 - May 13 with 1032 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
That all said.
Maybe Hull beat them 1-0 in a smash and grab. That would be nice. | |
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| Hopefully on 07:09 - May 13 with 800 views | Ftnfwest |
Yes the alleged spying clearly made Conway miss 3 or 4 sitters across both games |  | | |
| Hopefully on 07:23 - May 13 with 710 views | StokieBlue |
| Hopefully on 22:54 - May 12 by EsherBlueStu |
Won't be a points deduction next year if they are promoted as EFL have no jurisdiction in EPL. |
I believe this changed at the start of the season and both leagues agreed to carry out deductions issued by the other league.
It was mentioned on numerous podcasts at the start of the season.
That was why there was speculation that Leicester may get two points deductions this season.
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| Hopefully on 09:57 - May 13 with 557 views | wischip |
Surely they will boot Southampton out and replace them with Hollywood FC for the play-off final ? |  | | |
| Hopefully on 10:15 - May 13 with 429 views | Moriarty |
| Hopefully on 23:02 - May 12 by Cheltenham_Blue |
There’s a legitimate argument that spying handed them enough info to win.
In either case, I would be pretty certain that by the weekend we hear of potential legal action by Boro. |
Soton can't argue they didn't derive a benefit. They whole reason anyone cheats is to get a benefit. The 'Boro manager, who's no mug, is quite certain Soton's cheating affected the outcome.
The issue then becomes who knew about the cheating at Soton, and what did they do on foot of it. The answer appears to be they took advantage of it and trained based on it. If that is indeed the case, they should be disqualified from the playoffs.
Presumably, as you say, Boro will lawyer up and I'd imagine the first thing their lawyers will do is ask a court to stop the playoff final going ahead until the issue is fully and properly dealt with the FA.
Will be an interesting few days. |  |
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| Hopefully on 10:16 - May 13 with 423 views | _CliveBaker_ |
I would, cheating barstewards. I can't see it happening, but I'd laugh if it did. | | | |
| Hopefully on 10:16 - May 13 with 420 views | itfcserbia |
| Hopefully on 23:02 - May 12 by Cheltenham_Blue |
There’s a legitimate argument that spying handed them enough info to win.
In either case, I would be pretty certain that by the weekend we hear of potential legal action by Boro. |
There's a legitimate argument that Madley pretty much "reffed" them into the final as well. Unbelievable refereeing last night, stonewall penalties for Boro not given, clear foul by Stewart for Southampton goal, no bookings for diving... |  |
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| Hopefully on 10:41 - May 13 with 309 views | BlueOura |
I suspect it will just be a fine, which they won't care a jot about, especially if they get promoted. |  | | |
| Hopefully on 10:52 - May 13 with 249 views | Pinewoodblue |
Cheats should never prosper.
Play an ineligible player in a Cup game and result is null & void, cheating side kicked out of the competition, loser goes into next round,
Play an ineligible player in a competition where teams are split into groups the result is null & void, and treated as a 3-0 win to the team that didn’t cheat.
Can anyone think of a good reason why Middlesbrough shouldn’t be awarded a 3-0 win and go through to the final 4-2 on aggregate.
Southampton will still benefit from parachute payment next season.
Hopefully Middlesbrough will be training this week just in case this should be how it plays out. |  |
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| Hopefully on 10:55 - May 13 with 232 views | tractaboy |
I’m sure the, ahem, ‘ball boy’ incident won’t help their case either. |  | | |
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