| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… 13:05 - May 20 with 1982 views | Chris_ITFC |
… has helped Delap to mature and adapt his game………………
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:11 - May 20 with 1623 views | FrimleyBlue |
The way he's played this year, it makes you wonder if his task is simply, go out and be a pain |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:18 - May 20 with 1561 views | ZapatasMoustache |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:11 - May 20 by FrimleyBlue |
The way he's played this year, it makes you wonder if his task is simply, go out and be a pain |
What's noticeable is that he hasn't developed any guile in that period. It's exactly the same move he did over and over for us, and gave away a free kick almost every time. Not looking at the ball (or pretending to), staring directly at the defender while he lifts his arm, not moving primarily to where the ball will be but to the man... it's just really dopey and transparent. |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:18 - May 20 with 1559 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:11 - May 20 by FrimleyBlue |
The way he's played this year, it makes you wonder if his task is simply, go out and be a pain |
More yellow cards than goals.
(Genuinely.) | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:19 - May 20 with 1550 views | TIB |
Looks 50/50 to me, Delap just trying to disrupt and hold up the ball. That said, a year of practising this and he's still not much better at it. [Post edited 20 May 13:20]
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:21 - May 20 with 1518 views | NthQldITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:18 - May 20 by ZapatasMoustache |
What's noticeable is that he hasn't developed any guile in that period. It's exactly the same move he did over and over for us, and gave away a free kick almost every time. Not looking at the ball (or pretending to), staring directly at the defender while he lifts his arm, not moving primarily to where the ball will be but to the man... it's just really dopey and transparent. |
It's crazy because he's got the power and strength to win those contests legally. Needs another year with McKenna, but not sure if we need another year with him! |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:22 - May 20 with 1502 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:18 - May 20 by ZapatasMoustache |
What's noticeable is that he hasn't developed any guile in that period. It's exactly the same move he did over and over for us, and gave away a free kick almost every time. Not looking at the ball (or pretending to), staring directly at the defender while he lifts his arm, not moving primarily to where the ball will be but to the man... it's just really dopey and transparent. |
Agreed, surprising his Dad hasn't suggested he looks to change. |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:31 - May 20 with 1412 views | SitfcB |
This did make me laugh.
Chelsea fans hate him.
Bring him back! |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:34 - May 20 with 1373 views | FrimleyBlue |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:31 - May 20 by SitfcB |
This did make me laugh.
Chelsea fans hate him.
Bring him back! |
I'm so caught
One on hand, we've seen his goal scoring abilities etc
But on the other we've seen his selfishness leading to turnovers leading to goals, and seen his constant need for yellow cards and conceding freekicks
I don't really know if i want him back or not..................... | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:35 - May 20 with 1371 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:21 - May 20 by NthQldITFC |
It's crazy because he's got the power and strength to win those contests legally. Needs another year with McKenna, but not sure if we need another year with him! |
Yeah McKenna would be great for him. For us, on loan, he’d be better value than the money we’d need to sign someone like him permanently. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:40 - May 20 with 1323 views | RetroBlue |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:18 - May 20 by ZapatasMoustache |
What's noticeable is that he hasn't developed any guile in that period. It's exactly the same move he did over and over for us, and gave away a free kick almost every time. Not looking at the ball (or pretending to), staring directly at the defender while he lifts his arm, not moving primarily to where the ball will be but to the man... it's just really dopey and transparent. |
Tbh, even when he was with us amidst all hype, I thought he was largely limited in his game. He makes up for that lack of guile and aptitude with brawn , and ges still doing it.
I have watched him many times this season with Chelsea and looks completely out of his depth. I really hope he doesn't return here, because hes not good enough. I wish him well, of course, where ever he ends up but long-term I think he'll eventually drop back to the Championship. |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:41 - May 20 with 1316 views | burnbudgiesburn |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:35 - May 20 by Chris_ITFC |
Yeah McKenna would be great for him. For us, on loan, he’d be better value than the money we’d need to sign someone like him permanently. |
Can also play right wing perfectly adequately as well
Despite the fact I felt Hirst was a better team player towards the end of that season, there's no doubt we could make good use of him on loan and save ourselves a decent wedge.
That £30m fee doesn't seem so 'light' atm does it? |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:42 - May 20 with 1305 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:18 - May 20 by ZapatasMoustache |
What's noticeable is that he hasn't developed any guile in that period. It's exactly the same move he did over and over for us, and gave away a free kick almost every time. Not looking at the ball (or pretending to), staring directly at the defender while he lifts his arm, not moving primarily to where the ball will be but to the man... it's just really dopey and transparent. |
He did glance at the ball to be fair to him, but it might have just been to make sure it wasn’t going to land on his head and interrupt his assaulting and battering. | | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:52 - May 20 with 1212 views | vilanovablue |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:40 - May 20 by RetroBlue |
Tbh, even when he was with us amidst all hype, I thought he was largely limited in his game. He makes up for that lack of guile and aptitude with brawn , and ges still doing it.
I have watched him many times this season with Chelsea and looks completely out of his depth. I really hope he doesn't return here, because hes not good enough. I wish him well, of course, where ever he ends up but long-term I think he'll eventually drop back to the Championship. |
I also think we need to move on, I watched him in the Chelsea game last night and thought he was poor. On a personal note I really disliked the way he downed tools at the point we needed him to differently was frankly appalling and unprofessional. [Post edited 20 May 13:58]
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:55 - May 20 with 1178 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:40 - May 20 by RetroBlue |
Tbh, even when he was with us amidst all hype, I thought he was largely limited in his game. He makes up for that lack of guile and aptitude with brawn , and ges still doing it.
I have watched him many times this season with Chelsea and looks completely out of his depth. I really hope he doesn't return here, because hes not good enough. I wish him well, of course, where ever he ends up but long-term I think he'll eventually drop back to the Championship. |
Yeah the hype came from some early ‘worldie’ goals or close calls (eg at Brighton), but realistically he was never likely to keep that up, and his general play wasn’t the best - albeit, he was fairly well suited to a counter-attacking relegation side.
He’s far more well known now though, and his game is very easy to ‘work out’ / wind up. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:57 - May 20 with 1158 views | billlm |
He's rubbish, a bully not a striker,
What ever he had with us has long gone, |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 14:21 - May 20 with 1026 views | Lion |
I guess that in today's day and age, that is a foul, but actually, is it really a foul at all?!
I know that he has had a bad season at Chelsea, compounded by injuries and Joao Pedro's excellent form. He could and can be frustrating with those needless fouls. He could do with a bit more coaching and KM is one of the best coaches around imho particularly with young players. He also somewhat downed tools/lost heart/knew he was going to Chelsea in the second half of the season with us. l also agree with the poster who said at times Hirst was a better team player than Delap.
But for all that, watch his goals for us on youtube. He would be a tremendous signing on loan ( permanent never going to happen atm, he is on 100k a week! ) If we sign a better striker than him, or even as good as him it would be remarkable business ! Forget his form for Chelsea, a year ago the media were talking about him replacing Kane for England. Honestly, some of our fans are absolutely deluded saying ' we don't want him ' If we could get him on loan and it is a very big if, it would be fantastic. The learned town fans amongst us do know that, right?! | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 14:24 - May 20 with 1007 views | BiGDonnie |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:34 - May 20 by FrimleyBlue |
I'm so caught
One on hand, we've seen his goal scoring abilities etc
But on the other we've seen his selfishness leading to turnovers leading to goals, and seen his constant need for yellow cards and conceding freekicks
I don't really know if i want him back or not..................... |
Luckily, it's not up to you son.
Bringing him back is the easiest decision we'll have all summer if he's available and interested. |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:07 - May 20 with 860 views | norfsufblue |
I still reckon theres a proper centre forward in there given games and top coaching, his performance at Bournemouth was the first time i saw him as a striker playing for and with the team. He meshed brilliantly especially with Broady and got a great goal into the bargin! |  | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:15 - May 20 with 815 views | Chris_ITFC |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:07 - May 20 by norfsufblue |
I still reckon theres a proper centre forward in there given games and top coaching, his performance at Bournemouth was the first time i saw him as a striker playing for and with the team. He meshed brilliantly especially with Broady and got a great goal into the bargin! |
Huge potential, that isn’t suited to flourishing in an environment like Chelsea’s.
That being said, I’d trust Alonso far more than Rosenior/caretaker - but I expect he’ll want better. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:19 - May 20 with 789 views | Lion |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:15 - May 20 by Chris_ITFC |
Huge potential, that isn’t suited to flourishing in an environment like Chelsea’s.
That being said, I’d trust Alonso far more than Rosenior/caretaker - but I expect he’ll want better. |
I hope Alonso wants better if it means we have a chance of getting him! | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:20 - May 20 with 784 views | grow_our_own |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 13:18 - May 20 by ZapatasMoustache |
What's noticeable is that he hasn't developed any guile in that period. It's exactly the same move he did over and over for us, and gave away a free kick almost every time. Not looking at the ball (or pretending to), staring directly at the defender while he lifts his arm, not moving primarily to where the ball will be but to the man... it's just really dopey and transparent. |
Agreed. He's got all the physical attributes, but none of the mental ones. Fouly and runs up too many cul-de-sacs, losing possession. Heading isn't great either. Prem relegation near-favourites can't be too choosy, but let's not pretend we'd sign Harry Kane v2. He'll never be top-of-prem or Champions League quality. | | | |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:25 - May 20 with 754 views | Lion |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:20 - May 20 by grow_our_own |
Agreed. He's got all the physical attributes, but none of the mental ones. Fouly and runs up too many cul-de-sacs, losing possession. Heading isn't great either. Prem relegation near-favourites can't be too choosy, but let's not pretend we'd sign Harry Kane v2. He'll never be top-of-prem or Champions League quality. |
Ummmm, i just want to stay up, i hope i am wrong but we probably wont compete for the premiership title or champions league qualification next year. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:42 - May 20 with 683 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
That’s my number 9 right there.
Bring him home. |  |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:46 - May 20 with 669 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 14:24 - May 20 by BiGDonnie |
Luckily, it's not up to you son.
Bringing him back is the easiest decision we'll have all summer if he's available and interested. |
100%.
We need 2 centre forwards. Get one in who knows the club, the players, the manager. Has a great physical profile and has scored goals for us in the prem before.
Then go and get creative and try and find someone abroad whose game translates well to England.
Happy days. | |
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| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 15:48 - May 20 with 650 views | Exiled2Surrey |
| I wonder if a year at Chelsea… on 14:21 - May 20 by Lion |
I guess that in today's day and age, that is a foul, but actually, is it really a foul at all?!
I know that he has had a bad season at Chelsea, compounded by injuries and Joao Pedro's excellent form. He could and can be frustrating with those needless fouls. He could do with a bit more coaching and KM is one of the best coaches around imho particularly with young players. He also somewhat downed tools/lost heart/knew he was going to Chelsea in the second half of the season with us. l also agree with the poster who said at times Hirst was a better team player than Delap.
But for all that, watch his goals for us on youtube. He would be a tremendous signing on loan ( permanent never going to happen atm, he is on 100k a week! ) If we sign a better striker than him, or even as good as him it would be remarkable business ! Forget his form for Chelsea, a year ago the media were talking about him replacing Kane for England. Honestly, some of our fans are absolutely deluded saying ' we don't want him ' If we could get him on loan and it is a very big if, it would be fantastic. The learned town fans amongst us do know that, right?! |
I am with you on whether that is a foul.
My sense is that it is SO difficult as a striker to win that dual - I reckon you have a one in ten chance - if the striker puts the same amount of force into the challenge as the defender, the defender gets the benefit of the doubt every time. I almost wonder if the best course of action is to leave the defender alone completely, hope that they miscontrol the ball, and hope that the ball breaks in your direction. | | | |
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