| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? 18:28 - May 26 with 3481 views | TwoKnightsInIpswich |
The game has gone! |  | | |  |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 18:39 - May 26 with 2902 views | Kieran_Knows |
… and to think how close we were to signing him 2 years ago! |  |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 18:46 - May 26 with 2876 views | Metal_Hacker |
Game went ages ago |  |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 18:47 - May 26 with 2872 views | armchaircritic59 |
Rate him highly, not quite that highly. |  | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 18:50 - May 26 with 2850 views | Churchman |
He’s worth what somebody will pay and given Izak went for what £120m, is £100m anything more than the going rate with the volume of money in the game? |  | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 18:50 - May 26 with 2851 views | positivity |
for context, some said delap's true value was 50m one year ago if it wasn't for the release clause.
love liam, but i'd take elliot anderson over 2 delaps every day of the week! |  |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 19:23 - May 26 with 2679 views | strikalite |
It's gone but nice to see Hull spent nothing in the summer or January and made the Prem... |  | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 19:26 - May 26 with 2659 views | armchaircritic59 |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 18:50 - May 26 by positivity |
for context, some said delap's true value was 50m one year ago if it wasn't for the release clause.
love liam, but i'd take elliot anderson over 2 delaps every day of the week! |
Me too. That's at least 2 of us! | | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 20:10 - May 26 with 2479 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
Many fans really haven't got a clue about current transfer fees having been away from the Premier League for so long. It is why many were using spending over £100M as a stick to beat us with without recognising that is the fee for 5 standard players at that level and nothing more. |  |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 20:47 - May 26 with 2376 views | Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 20:10 - May 26 by Nthsuffolkblue |
Many fans really haven't got a clue about current transfer fees having been away from the Premier League for so long. It is why many were using spending over £100M as a stick to beat us with without recognising that is the fee for 5 standard players at that level and nothing more. |
How many 100M players have there been in PL history?
Luton spent 19M got more points
Sunderland didn’t spend that much more and finished 7th
It’s ok to admit we weren’t competitive enough for the amount we spent last time, despite the all context surrounding it and where we came from.
Why has any constructive point got to be “a stick to beat the club with” by the Chairman’s own admission we’ve got to do things differently this time and we are obviously in a better place to do so. |  |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 21:46 - May 26 with 2192 views | pointofblue |
If I was him, I'd sign for United over City, though both are potential player graveyards if things go wrong. He'd probably be best off going to Arsenal, but not sure if they can afford him and their other targets. | |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 21:55 - May 26 with 2143 views | bartyg |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 18:50 - May 26 by positivity |
for context, some said delap's true value was 50m one year ago if it wasn't for the release clause.
love liam, but i'd take elliot anderson over 2 delaps every day of the week! |
With two Delap's we'd be able to play around their suspensions though. |  |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 21:58 - May 26 with 2119 views | Nthsuffolkblue |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 20:47 - May 26 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
How many 100M players have there been in PL history?
Luton spent 19M got more points
Sunderland didn’t spend that much more and finished 7th
It’s ok to admit we weren’t competitive enough for the amount we spent last time, despite the all context surrounding it and where we came from.
Why has any constructive point got to be “a stick to beat the club with” by the Chairman’s own admission we’ve got to do things differently this time and we are obviously in a better place to do so. |
I have no idea how many there have been. There were at least two last season alone.
Luton is a red herring as is the fact we got fewer points. I didn't dispute the fact our recruitment was poor - last time I replied to a post of yours just yesterday I stated it was!
Sunderland spent £213.4M! That's significantly more in my book!
Last season alone there were 100 transfers into Premier League clubs for over £15M which is why I stated £20M is about par for a Premier League level player. I never said we got those signings right at all. What I did comment on is this idea that players like McAteer and Egeli are criticised for the fees we have paid for them. If they become decent Premier League players over the next year or two, they were good value for money! | |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 22:17 - May 26 with 2037 views | NeedhamMarketKop |
If Elliot Anderson single handedly drags England into the World Cup quarter-finals and beyond in a few weeks, then watch his transfer fee soar to new levels. | | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 22:46 - May 26 with 1946 views | positivity |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 21:55 - May 26 by bartyg |
With two Delap's we'd be able to play around their suspensions though. |
yes, good point, and injuries.
recruitment team look into it please | |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 09:29 - May 27 with 1597 views | darkhorse28 |
England regular. 23. Lovely player, has everything in that role.
If Declan was £100 million, he’s at that level, more for his age.., and after the World Cup could cost a lot more, you’d want a deal done before the World Cup and it seems sensible money.
I had him in my FPL a couple of times and tried to watch him when I could…., he was two levels above where I thought he was.
Strong, defensively superb, great positionally, very good technically, and very physical.
He’s the real deal. Could dominate that role for many years at this level. He’s worth it…, sounds odd to say it, but I think he’s worth more.
He’s a great example of the levels we face too, MGW another class act. And they struggled as a team at times.., blows the mind the levels you need to be at in this league. | | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 10:27 - May 27 with 1519 views | Vaughan8 |
However good you think Declan Rice is or those 2 at Chelsea, they all went to next to £100m. That's when the games gone. A holding/defensive midfielder going for £100m+ | | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 11:36 - May 27 with 1381 views | bartyg |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 10:27 - May 27 by Vaughan8 |
However good you think Declan Rice is or those 2 at Chelsea, they all went to next to £100m. That's when the games gone. A holding/defensive midfielder going for £100m+ |
"Games gone because of inflation" is a new low in the "games gone" genre. | |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 11:46 - May 27 with 1323 views | vilanovablue |
He's young, English plays in the holding role supremely effectively in an area it's often hard to fill. The fact that a figure of £100 million is cited doesn't surprise me at all, didn't Rice go for a similar price? [Post edited 27 May 12:23]
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 11:55 - May 27 with 1303 views | Vaughan8 |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 11:36 - May 27 by bartyg |
"Games gone because of inflation" is a new low in the "games gone" genre. |
You think they're worth £100m+ because of inflation?
Not many go for £100m...........I'd much rather get a striker who scores 20+ goals a season than a holding midfielder.....! | | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 12:09 - May 27 with 1250 views | Kievthegreat |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 20:47 - May 26 by Joey_Joe_Joe_Junior |
How many 100M players have there been in PL history?
Luton spent 19M got more points
Sunderland didn’t spend that much more and finished 7th
It’s ok to admit we weren’t competitive enough for the amount we spent last time, despite the all context surrounding it and where we came from.
Why has any constructive point got to be “a stick to beat the club with” by the Chairman’s own admission we’ve got to do things differently this time and we are obviously in a better place to do so. |
I agree with the point that Sunderland spent better than us and that we didn't get good value for money with some of the business we did.
However Sunderland did spend (based on Transfermarkt) an additional £50m or about 40% more. Will be interesting to see about wages. That will have to wait until next accounts come out, but I'd fancy them to have had a bigger outlay there too.
Not to diminish their performance, they were more than £50m better than we were last year IMO. However would that extra money have tipped us over the edge? |  | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 13:06 - May 27 with 1140 views | bartyg |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 11:55 - May 27 by Vaughan8 |
You think they're worth £100m+ because of inflation?
Not many go for £100m...........I'd much rather get a striker who scores 20+ goals a season than a holding midfielder.....! |
Because of inflation in the price of footballers, yes. Top teams have more and more money, but the number of world class quality players stays the same.
On your second sentence, maybe consider that teams at the top of the premier league know better than you about the value of players in different positions. | |
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 13:21 - May 27 with 1072 views | Churchman |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 12:09 - May 27 by Kievthegreat |
I agree with the point that Sunderland spent better than us and that we didn't get good value for money with some of the business we did.
However Sunderland did spend (based on Transfermarkt) an additional £50m or about 40% more. Will be interesting to see about wages. That will have to wait until next accounts come out, but I'd fancy them to have had a bigger outlay there too.
Not to diminish their performance, they were more than £50m better than we were last year IMO. However would that extra money have tipped us over the edge? |
A probably unreliable source but interesting
https://www.capology.com/club/
The same source for ITFC
https://www.capology.com/club/ | | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 13:30 - May 27 with 1038 views | ElderGrizzly |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 12:09 - May 27 by Kievthegreat |
I agree with the point that Sunderland spent better than us and that we didn't get good value for money with some of the business we did.
However Sunderland did spend (based on Transfermarkt) an additional £50m or about 40% more. Will be interesting to see about wages. That will have to wait until next accounts come out, but I'd fancy them to have had a bigger outlay there too.
Not to diminish their performance, they were more than £50m better than we were last year IMO. However would that extra money have tipped us over the edge? |
And Sunderland hadn't jumped 2 divisions in successive years.
I'm not sure why JJJ is overlooking or dismissing our L1 to Champ to PL journey. It had a huge impact/influence on how we could recruit and plan.
Yes we got some things wrong, but that jump is a huge ask for anyone.
Sunderland had been a PL club in the not too distant past too. Same for Leeds. |  | | |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 13:47 - May 27 with 963 views | Kievthegreat |
I'd use Capology as possibly indicative, but not reliable (same goes for Transfermarkt too when looking at outlay). Interesting that they have Sunderland paying out approx 50% more per week (ignorning bonuses), but we'd need accounts to confirm anything.
Our wage bill in our premiership accounts was £77m (includes all 365 staff). Nearly double what Capology had us on. Now, I don't know how much all those 300+ employees who aren't first teamers get, but I don't think they are all earning £100k per year each which is what Capology numbers would imply.
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| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 14:20 - May 27 with 883 views | Vaughan8 |
| Elliot Anderson over £100 million? on 13:47 - May 27 by Kievthegreat |
I'd use Capology as possibly indicative, but not reliable (same goes for Transfermarkt too when looking at outlay). Interesting that they have Sunderland paying out approx 50% more per week (ignorning bonuses), but we'd need accounts to confirm anything.
Our wage bill in our premiership accounts was £77m (includes all 365 staff). Nearly double what Capology had us on. Now, I don't know how much all those 300+ employees who aren't first teamers get, but I don't think they are all earning £100k per year each which is what Capology numbers would imply.
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Capology doesn't include any bonuses so that would be missing.
Also, think how much the employers NI is paid on those wages. at 13.8% that would be say £10m of that.
So £40m off Capology Plus say £10m Ers NI, PLus McKenna's wages (£5m).
There were 189 "football" employees and 180 admin.
So £22m (minus bonuses) for 300 employees is about £73k per person. Unlikely but its probably more accurate than you're making out. [Post edited 27 May 14:21]
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