| 35.1C in May 20:15 - May 26 with 5826 views | NthQldITFC |
Is there anyone left who thinks we haven't completely fked our future?
If so, I'll have some of what you're on. |  |
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| 35.1C in May on 09:55 - May 27 with 804 views | StokieBlue |
| 35.1C in May on 09:26 - May 27 by BluePG |
Define “we”!
India and China building dozens of coal-fired power stations each year, and the UK emits less than 1% of carbon output globally. There is a bigger picture, and I’m not convinced that me using a paper straw rather than a plastic one will help save the human race. |
China also lead the world by far in renewables and are increasing that all the time. On a per capita basis, their emissions are half that of the US and roughly at parity with ours.
The argument that we shouldn't do anything because of China isn't a good one in my view.
India certainly are a long way behind China in this regard.
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| 35.1C in May on 09:59 - May 27 with 767 views | Benters |
| 35.1C in May on 08:27 - May 27 by Rimsy |
There's alot of climate scientists on here. You've all been fed this bs for so long you think it must be true. |
It’s another beautiful day in Benters people are walking their dogs on the green,children playing in the park and on their bikes etc.
The sun ☀️ makes people happy but not on here it’s all doom and gloom. |  |
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| 35.1C in May on 10:04 - May 27 with 754 views | baxterbasics |
| 35.1C in May on 08:47 - May 27 by DJR |
It seems a lot of what is going on is due to the jet stream which is affected by temperature rises in the Arctic.
https://livetoplant.com/how-cl
"Arctic amplification has far-reaching effects on atmospheric circulation patterns. As the Arctic warms more rapidly than lower latitudes:
1. The temperature contrast between polar air masses and mid-latitude air masses decreases.
2. This reduces the pressure gradient that drives jet stream winds.
3. Consequently, the jet stream slows down or becomes more “wavy,” with larger north-south excursions called Rossby waves.
A slower jet stream means that weather systems tend to move more slowly across continents. This can lead to prolonged periods of particular weather conditions such as heatwaves, cold spells, droughts, or heavy rainfall — all of which have been increasingly observed in recent years." |
On the other hand, the AMOC/Gulf Stream is slowing down as temperatures rise and Ice melt dilutes the waters. If it switches off completely, we drop 5 to 10 degrees in the UK.
Swings and roundabouts! However, I understand it's not expected to switch off anytime this century. |  |
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| 35.1C in May on 10:07 - May 27 with 742 views | NthQldITFC |
| 35.1C in May on 09:26 - May 27 by BluePG |
Define “we”!
India and China building dozens of coal-fired power stations each year, and the UK emits less than 1% of carbon output globally. There is a bigger picture, and I’m not convinced that me using a paper straw rather than a plastic one will help save the human race. |
Damn! That paper straw changeover drive was the only chance we had, and you've just indisputably debunked it.
Add to that, you've clearly illustrated that the UK exists in complete isolation with nobody else being able to see what we're doing let alone follow our lead, and you're right - there's absolutely no point doing anything apart from sitting on our fat, cowardly arses with our fingers in our ears, pretending nothing's happening as interrelated systems collapse one after another.
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| 35.1C in May on 10:08 - May 27 with 733 views | DJR |
| 35.1C in May on 23:45 - May 26 by floridablue |
Just wondering if it's something that ever factors into baking hot British summer days as it does in Florida. Heat factor index here always rises another 5 or so degrees above the announced maximum temperature. Example, todays local high was 93f and the news weather guy said with heat index feels like 98f! Perhaps that's because of the high humidity in Florida and that doesn't really happen in Blighty! |
In this country, the Met Office figures have on them a "feels like" temperature which is sometimes higher and sometimes lower than the actual temperature.
And to be honest, even though temperatures have reached around 33 where I live, I don't think it's felt exceptionally warm. Nor have I had difficulty sleeping. Indeed, the feels like temperatures predicted today are about 3 degrees lower than the actual temperature.
Another difference here is the relative lack of intensity of the sun, compared to lower latitudes such as Spain, and obviously Florida.
But humidity can be a factor too, as I found out when in New York many years ago. And I believe the many buildings in big cities can add to the heat too. [Post edited 27 May 10:19]
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| 35.1C in May on 10:11 - May 27 with 717 views | Dubtractor |
| 35.1C in May on 09:59 - May 27 by Benters |
It’s another beautiful day in Benters people are walking their dogs on the green,children playing in the park and on their bikes etc.
The sun ☀️ makes people happy but not on here it’s all doom and gloom. |
This may blow your mind, but it is possible to enjoy yourself outside AND have a discussion sharing concerns about the longer term.
Or should we just shut down all discussion about anything that could be deemed negative? |  |
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| 35.1C in May on 10:16 - May 27 with 684 views | Benters |
| 35.1C in May on 08:08 - May 27 by Guthrum |
Tho stilk nearly a month before the time the 1976 heatwave started, we are only just below the peak temperature for that year. |
It will be hammering down with rain next week !  | |
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| 35.1C in May on 10:19 - May 27 with 661 views | Benters |
| 35.1C in May on 10:11 - May 27 by Dubtractor |
This may blow your mind, but it is possible to enjoy yourself outside AND have a discussion sharing concerns about the longer term.
Or should we just shut down all discussion about anything that could be deemed negative? |
You do what you like Dude 😎 | |
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| 35.1C in May on 10:23 - May 27 with 642 views | NthQldITFC |
| 35.1C in May on 10:04 - May 27 by baxterbasics |
On the other hand, the AMOC/Gulf Stream is slowing down as temperatures rise and Ice melt dilutes the waters. If it switches off completely, we drop 5 to 10 degrees in the UK.
Swings and roundabouts! However, I understand it's not expected to switch off anytime this century. |
Total shutdown is not expected this century, but a point of no return (tipping point) and major slowdown (with catastrophic consequences for the UK and Europe) are being seriously considered as imminent possibilities, along with the destabilising consequences on other interrelated systems.
https://interactive.carbonbrie
https://www.nature.com/article [Post edited 27 May 10:27]
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| 35.1C in May on 11:08 - May 27 with 552 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 35.1C in May on 10:11 - May 27 by Dubtractor |
This may blow your mind, but it is possible to enjoy yourself outside AND have a discussion sharing concerns about the longer term.
Or should we just shut down all discussion about anything that could be deemed negative? |
Although having that conversation on the internet may be counter productive. The internet and digital technology are estimated to be responsible for 2.5% to 3.7% of global greenhouse gas emissions. |  |
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| 35.1C in May on 11:13 - May 27 with 541 views | positivity |
| 35.1C in May on 11:08 - May 27 by GlasgowBlue |
Although having that conversation on the internet may be counter productive. The internet and digital technology are estimated to be responsible for 2.5% to 3.7% of global greenhouse gas emissions. |
it all adds up, but much less damaging than flying to meet up in person to discuss it!
as you say, being vegetarian (or at least being more vegetarian) is a key one to help as are taking less frequent flights and buying less rubbish from miles away... |  |
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| 35.1C in May on 11:20 - May 27 with 524 views | Dubtractor |
| 35.1C in May on 11:08 - May 27 by GlasgowBlue |
Although having that conversation on the internet may be counter productive. The internet and digital technology are estimated to be responsible for 2.5% to 3.7% of global greenhouse gas emissions. |
That's why I stated earlier in the thread that we/humans are all culpable to some degree. | |
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| 35.1C in May on 11:53 - May 27 with 485 views | Rimsy |
| 35.1C in May on 08:30 - May 27 by Guthrum |
Are you a climate scientist, then? |
No, but I don't pretend to be. |  |
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| 35.1C in May on 11:57 - May 27 with 469 views | Rimsy |
| 35.1C in May on 08:44 - May 27 by NthQldITFC |
It would be fascinating to discuss with you your groundbreaking scientific processes, your data and how you reached this conclusion - to understand the brilliant mind that proved the whole world wrong, and all the conventionally gathered data flawed. We are truly blessed. |
Thanks for the compliment. I wouldn't want to rain on your parade, if you choose to believe any and everything, good for you. | |
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| 35.1C in May on 12:06 - May 27 with 440 views | positivity |
| 35.1C in May on 11:57 - May 27 by Rimsy |
Thanks for the compliment. I wouldn't want to rain on your parade, if you choose to believe any and everything, good for you. |
i've commissioned a translation:
"if you want to believe in what those expert scientists with their myriad peer-reviewed papers say, that's up to you.
i'll continue to believe the fairytales propagated by the fossil fuel lobby as i love to give them my money. who cares about our children and civilisation in general, not me" | |
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| 35.1C in May on 12:07 - May 27 with 440 views | positivity |
| 35.1C in May on 11:53 - May 27 by Rimsy |
No, but I don't pretend to be. |
you seem to be of the opinion that all climate scientists are wrong though, what's your qualification? | |
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| 35.1C in May on 12:12 - May 27 with 418 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 35.1C in May on 09:59 - May 27 by Benters |
It’s another beautiful day in Benters people are walking their dogs on the green,children playing in the park and on their bikes etc.
The sun ☀️ makes people happy but not on here it’s all doom and gloom. |
Why do you come on here then? |  |
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| 35.1C in May on 12:17 - May 27 with 399 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| 35.1C in May on 11:53 - May 27 by Rimsy |
No, but I don't pretend to be. |
Where's your evidence that the climate scientists are wrong then? | |
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| 35.1C in May on 12:24 - May 27 with 369 views | Benters |
Because you are smashing and I like reading what you say 😍 | |
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| 35.1C in May on 12:51 - May 27 with 335 views | SitfcB |
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| 35.1C in May on 12:52 - May 27 with 323 views | GlasgowBlue |
| 35.1C in May on 09:55 - May 27 by StokieBlue |
China also lead the world by far in renewables and are increasing that all the time. On a per capita basis, their emissions are half that of the US and roughly at parity with ours.
The argument that we shouldn't do anything because of China isn't a good one in my view.
India certainly are a long way behind China in this regard.
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Are you sure those figures are correct?
USA produces 13.83 tons per capita. China produces 9.24 tons per capita. UK produces 4.42 tons per capita.
And of we are going per capita then China generates roughly 2.2 MWh of renewable energy per person annually whereas the UK produces 2 MWh of renewable energy per person, so not much difference. | |
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| 35.1C in May on 13:20 - May 27 with 254 views | BlueSmoke |
But when will Norfolk be swallowed by the sea?
STILL WAITING. |  | | |
| 35.1C in May on 13:33 - May 27 with 204 views | Rimsy |
| 35.1C in May on 12:06 - May 27 by positivity |
i've commissioned a translation:
"if you want to believe in what those expert scientists with their myriad peer-reviewed papers say, that's up to you.
i'll continue to believe the fairytales propagated by the fossil fuel lobby as i love to give them my money. who cares about our children and civilisation in general, not me" |
You can reference whoever you like. But we all know that as soon as I was to post a link to something that doesn't tally with the beliefs on here, it would be derided as false. What's the point, you all carry on being led by the narrative. | |
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| 35.1C in May on 13:33 - May 27 with 208 views | Dubtractor |
I love how every time we have a discussion about this, the default rebuttal is 'but what about 1976', a year where the temperature was so remarkably high that people who weren't even born remember it.
If that's the baseline we're working from, the reference point against which each record breaking temperature is compared, then it sums up how far in denial so many people are. | |
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| 35.1C in May on 13:36 - May 27 with 190 views | ElderGrizzly |
| 35.1C in May on 13:33 - May 27 by Dubtractor |
I love how every time we have a discussion about this, the default rebuttal is 'but what about 1976', a year where the temperature was so remarkably high that people who weren't even born remember it.
If that's the baseline we're working from, the reference point against which each record breaking temperature is compared, then it sums up how far in denial so many people are. |
And there is very much a pattern both here and in the US about supporting Reform/Restore/MAGA and this climate science denial.
It's almost like they'll believe anything their masters tell them |  | | |
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