| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR 10:31 - May 28 with 6130 views | SitfcB |
https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/
Can anyone find the permission notice? There’s usually artist impressions on them and stuff isn’t there? |  |
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 14:08 - May 28 with 1378 views | Muncher |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 10:47 - May 28 by portmanking |
Hmm, doesn't look like another tier is being added to me? |
If you look very closely you can see all of the structural supports for the additional tier have been incorporated within the new ground floor structure, all perfectly lined up with the existing ones for the upper tiers. Those supports wouldn't be there for a single storey extension.
I expect when work starts you will see some pretty large piling rigs constructing this single storey structure... [Post edited 28 May 15:17]
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 15:11 - May 28 with 1224 views | NthQldITFC |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 13:58 - May 28 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Anyone got thoughts on the 'McKenna Gate'
(Named that myself)
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Such a shame (not) that the alternative is already taken. |  |
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 15:18 - May 28 with 1198 views | NthQldITFC |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 14:08 - May 28 by Muncher |
If you look very closely you can see all of the structural supports for the additional tier have been incorporated within the new ground floor structure, all perfectly lined up with the existing ones for the upper tiers. Those supports wouldn't be there for a single storey extension.
I expect when work starts you will see some pretty large piling rigs constructing this single storey structure... [Post edited 28 May 15:17]
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Which drawing can you see that on?
edit: I've got it. 201. [Post edited 28 May 15:21]
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 15:32 - May 28 with 1160 views | MathieandMarshall |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 13:02 - May 28 by blue_curacao |
I'm trying to get my head round where the turnstiles will be. To access the West Stand will we now need to go through one set of turnstiles into the fan zone and then another set to get into the new concourse and the stand itself? |
Nope, the fanzone will become accessible by all (even non ticket holders) with the turnstiles along the back of the new West stand concourse only.
The food kiosks are open both sides so will serve both fanzone and the concourse. (or just the fan zone if the stadium is closed. |  | | |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 15:34 - May 28 with 1158 views | SitfcB |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 13:20 - May 28 by urbanpenguin |
As I wrote on the story comments:
As someone who teaches Landscape Architecture at UCL, I agree it's stupid and annoying that the whole of the practice pitch area appears to become hard surface. This is only not great from an aesthetic standpoint, but a very simple and cheap strategy could easily include trees for shelter, grass for kids, SUDs and level changes to avoid huge runoff in heavy rains. |
I don’t think that’s correct. There’s no need to rip the whole thing off. It appears as green on some of the other photos. Think that’s just an oversight on the main view. | |
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 16:16 - May 28 with 1062 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 15:34 - May 28 by SitfcB |
I don’t think that’s correct. There’s no need to rip the whole thing off. It appears as green on some of the other photos. Think that’s just an oversight on the main view. |
Quite.
On the artists rendering of the fanzone in the Access and Design Statement it looks like some kind of synthetic surface.
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 16:36 - May 28 with 1021 views | NthQldITFC |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 16:16 - May 28 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Quite.
On the artists rendering of the fanzone in the Access and Design Statement it looks like some kind of synthetic surface.
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Actually looks quite unkempt in that. Reminds me of an ex girlfriend. | |
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 17:30 - May 28 with 933 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 13:10 - May 28 by portmanking |
Where are you seeing plans for a North/South Stand-style roof in the planning application? There's no mention of 12 additional rows of seating from what I can see? |
I’m not but there have been previous posts showing how the stadium will look. |  |
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 18:13 - May 28 with 881 views | grow_our_own |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 14:08 - May 28 by Muncher |
If you look very closely you can see all of the structural supports for the additional tier have been incorporated within the new ground floor structure, all perfectly lined up with the existing ones for the upper tiers. Those supports wouldn't be there for a single storey extension.
I expect when work starts you will see some pretty large piling rigs constructing this single storey structure... [Post edited 28 May 15:17]
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You mean these:
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How can you tell they're for the "additional tier" rather than this single-storey? Because if you're wrong, and they're only for this larger ground-level concourse, then it'll all have to be demolished if/when a new roof and extra rows of seating are added. And if that's the case, this "West Stand Expansion" development is saying: the west stand expansion ain't gonna happen.
I don't think 12 rows will accommodate 4k people by the way. Ignores aisles. Will have to be more like 20. [Post edited 28 May 18:15]
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 18:26 - May 28 with 850 views | bluefunk |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 18:13 - May 28 by grow_our_own |
You mean these:
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How can you tell they're for the "additional tier" rather than this single-storey? Because if you're wrong, and they're only for this larger ground-level concourse, then it'll all have to be demolished if/when a new roof and extra rows of seating are added. And if that's the case, this "West Stand Expansion" development is saying: the west stand expansion ain't gonna happen.
I don't think 12 rows will accommodate 4k people by the way. Ignores aisles. Will have to be more like 20. [Post edited 28 May 18:15]
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Those support are the existing ones, visible on the plan for the current stand layout. They are the supports at the back of the current stand. [Post edited 28 May 18:31]
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 19:05 - May 28 with 795 views | HighgateBlue |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 15:32 - May 28 by MathieandMarshall |
Nope, the fanzone will become accessible by all (even non ticket holders) with the turnstiles along the back of the new West stand concourse only.
The food kiosks are open both sides so will serve both fanzone and the concourse. (or just the fan zone if the stadium is closed. |
Is that definitely right? I may be missing something, but on drawing 201 there seem to be turnstiles in the same location as currently, and I can't see new turnstiles along the new West stand concourse. Apologies if I've misunderstood. |  | | |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 19:08 - May 28 with 786 views | monty_radio |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 13:59 - May 28 by NthQldITFC |
A monitored bicycle park (maybe in that triangular bit) would be a good addition. |
Yes - I 've thought often that cycling to/from night games when buses mainly don't exist, but not got around to making the sign to stick on the saddle saying "free to a bad home". | |
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 19:50 - May 28 with 749 views | gb3003 |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 19:05 - May 28 by HighgateBlue |
Is that definitely right? I may be missing something, but on drawing 201 there seem to be turnstiles in the same location as currently, and I can't see new turnstiles along the new West stand concourse. Apologies if I've misunderstood. |
‘Under the plans, turnstiles 42 to 47 would be removed entirely, while turnstiles 48 to 58 would remain in place but become inactive on matchdays, with supporters instead entering the stadium through 16 new automated turnstiles positioned along the back of the expanded West Stand concourse.
Fans would be able to enter the fan zone directly from Sir Alf Ramsey Way and Constantine Road without needing a match ticket, creating what the club describes as a more flexible and community-focused space outside the stadium.
The club says the redesigned arrangement would help ease pressure on surrounding streets by moving queues away from Sir Alf Ramsey Way and further into the stadium site itself.‘ | | | |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 21:46 - May 28 with 608 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 17:30 - May 28 by Pinewoodblue |
I’m not but there have been previous posts showing how the stadium will look. |
There haven't really. The council flyby of the 'Portman Quarter' includes a mock up of the new Cobbold, but no one knows if that's what it will actually look like. | |
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 21:57 - May 28 with 581 views | Zx1988 |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 13:58 - May 28 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Anyone got thoughts on the 'McKenna Gate'
(Named that myself)
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Perhaps another step towards a modern 'slimmed down' badge as well. | |
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| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 22:34 - May 28 with 497 views | urbanpenguin |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 13:46 - May 28 by underspaces |
It is remaining a practice pitch looking at other photos in the planning permission. Just the aerial photos are brown. |
May be right. After my post I looked through all the planning documents and nothing at all is made of the wider surface, but on all the first impressions and drawings it looked like a resurfacing. |  | | |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 22:39 - May 28 with 479 views | urbanpenguin |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 13:47 - May 28 by Cheltenham_Blue |
There is an interesting use of language in the planning application.
"Expansion of the existing West Stand at Portman Road (Ipswich Town Football Club). Expansion to include the extension of the stand at ground floor level to allow for a larger concourse and relocated Kiosks. Fanzone adjacent to be refurbished to provide more parking provision and a better threshold to the stand."
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it suggests that this is a series of applications for the West Stand Expansion. I assume this is phase one, to be done this summer, followed by the increase in capacity to add the required number of seats next summer.
I guess a big profile change of the existing elevation will take more time through planning than this would, so we have split it into phases. |
It's not that it's an interesting use of language, it literally is extending the stand at ground level
However, at this level of planning there are no detailed drawings of foundation engineering and I totally think they are over-engineering the ground works for what amounts to a tin shed in other that it can support a few columns in a year's time for an overhang extension at high level
There's no reason that needs to be mentioned in this application, and there's no need to code or be clever about language though. But yes, this will deliver useful ground level infrastructure while creating the conditions for a larger project next year should nothing go disastrously wrong. | | | |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 07:40 - May 29 with 232 views | Benters |
| Ipswich Town submit plans for major changes at PR on 13:03 - May 28 by Zx1988 |
£6 for a pie and pint? Good joke! |
I remember the ‘pint n a pie deal’ was a fiver. |  |
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