| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... 08:46 - Jun 21 with 4908 views | jasondozzell |
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We didn't deserve him last season. Will always be a huge shame that we didn't make enough fuss of him last season because the numpties and boo boys decided it wasn't good enough. Should have been singing his song a lot more.
I hope KM is enjoying his rest and recovering after giving everything. |  | | |  |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 08:49 - Jun 21 with 4383 views | Edmundo |
Like most people, you miss them more when they're gone and regret any harsh words. It was the right time though, for all concerned. The boo boys will be salivating about unrealistic expectations this season. 17th, playing anything a percent more positive than Mccarthy-ball, is fine for me this season. |  |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 08:51 - Jun 21 with 4368 views | Gary_Knows |
Yeh yeh, but omg, he let Woolfie go, he let Broadhead go …. Wah wah wah. This group of players have no b0llox.
Wah wah wah. |  |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 09:24 - Jun 21 with 4128 views | Blue_Heath |
He's gone and he came in a at a great time where the club had been stale and declining for so long.
I will get pelters for this but
Season 1: Could have got us into play offs - didn't. (forgiven due to Lambert)
Season 2: Objective achieved but with the squad we had we should have won the division
Season 3: Amazing, second only to GB finishing 5th in prem in recent history.
Season 4: Expected but the manner we went down was not good, PR was a miserable place to be that season. (Forgiven due to credit in bank)
Season 5: Expected but a large element of luck (Hackney injury) and again should have finished top with money spent. Football for the most part wasn't the best but I accept the style was to try and retain PL status the following year.
He obviously didn't think he could keep us up, not sure the boo boys had that much effect? I think next season will show how us how good he was. If GON get's 30+ points and 6 wins it'd be hard to make a case that KM would have done better.
He's gone, accept it, tbh I didn't really want GON but he's here now, let's get behind him and hope he can do the biz. |  |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:04 - Jun 21 with 3875 views | wkj |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 09:24 - Jun 21 by Blue_Heath |
He's gone and he came in a at a great time where the club had been stale and declining for so long.
I will get pelters for this but
Season 1: Could have got us into play offs - didn't. (forgiven due to Lambert)
Season 2: Objective achieved but with the squad we had we should have won the division
Season 3: Amazing, second only to GB finishing 5th in prem in recent history.
Season 4: Expected but the manner we went down was not good, PR was a miserable place to be that season. (Forgiven due to credit in bank)
Season 5: Expected but a large element of luck (Hackney injury) and again should have finished top with money spent. Football for the most part wasn't the best but I accept the style was to try and retain PL status the following year.
He obviously didn't think he could keep us up, not sure the boo boys had that much effect? I think next season will show how us how good he was. If GON get's 30+ points and 6 wins it'd be hard to make a case that KM would have done better.
He's gone, accept it, tbh I didn't really want GON but he's here now, let's get behind him and hope he can do the biz. |
Season 2's analysis is a bit harsh, Plymouth were consistently nicking games in the closing stages, but over all we were the better footballing side. I don't think trivialising anything in necessary to prove the point it made in your closing paragraphs.
The dude was knackered and probably was comfortable with what he'd achieved here. Either way, he's in our history books now as the perfect steward to repair the club, now we need someone who can evolve it - and that person is supposedly Gary O'Neil... i guess |  |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:06 - Jun 21 with 3834 views | blueoutlook |
I dare say most anybody would fall asleep on long bus journeys trying to watch anything let alone football 24/7. Being on those long trips all the time would have that affect on most people. Are you saying the players didn’t fall asleep as well then ? McKenna did a good job,yes,but my god he wasn’t the only manager working long hours at clubs up and down the country,and a lot of those weren’t getting paid £5 million a year either. And he can now afford to have the rest too. |  | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:18 - Jun 21 with 3683 views | darkhorse28 |
His rest and recovery buddy is mitigating his £8 million release to probably join Celtic, and he’s paid £5 million a year after agreeing to leave for Brighton.
He worked incredibly hard. That’s very obvious…, by why wouldn’t you expect someone on £5 million a year to work hard?
Very good coach, still needs to earn his stripes at this level, as he was way short, and maybe having to run so fast in the EFL is the reason, maybe his delegation skills are way short at this level. This would suggest that, because he was way short.
For context Gary had a million times better record at this level, so why not put your hormonal hysteria in to something positive like supporting him, and moving on (forwards).
McKenna had a magical time here .., but would move on (at least three times he DID) in a millisecond - you’d do well to remember he’s not YOU, your an emotional teenage girl about our club, he isn’t!
He was cold, cynical, and did himself zero favour when he MADE us give him £5 million and £200 million for players.
The pressure THAT created on him, Ashton and the club is 80% why his relationship soured with Ashton.
You can’t pay a manger £5 million in the EFL, and spend so much on players with a £12 million TV deal in the EfL, it’s impossible. And he WOULD have been sacked without promotion, and it would all go back to his belief he was truly elite, and using us to get those resources and an eye watering salary.
He deserves HUGE credit. But he’s massively flawed. That wasn’t elite career planning …, he jumped to European manager levels. And delivered EFL football and revenue.
Saved the day with promotion.., but by the skin of our teeth…, it’s not hard to see why the relationship had too many pressure points. McKenna creating some of them is something he needs to reflect on.
Get paid commensurate with a long term project, if we go down, and he’d still be here!
That’s 100% on him, greed is how you’d describe it in other managers when you’re less hormonal and more objective.., and greed is what it was. Saw his media stock incredibly high, took full advantage and NO manager has ever warranted £5 million for success in the EFL because the r numbers simply don’t work…, we could have genuinely gone bust as club if we’d stayed in the championship two more years.
I don’t think you understand any of those implications.
We should celebrate GON he’s had a more elite career and he’s our manager…, good luck to KM he deserves huge success but you should also look at the 25 players he’s left.
We spent over £200 million gross, a lot of which is still liabilities, and what 10-15 points if we were lucky this season.
We got resources to go again, and that’s thanks to McKenna, but the legacy is mixed. This is a worse squad than the legacy group that cost almost nothing.
You judge a manager in what he leaves, and it’s success at EFL level, he hasn’t left a squad that can vaguely compete at this level - and GON had a HUGE recruitment job to do, one of the biggest I’ve ever seen for a newly promoted side .., that’s in McKenna too.
He was running very fast in the EFL, and full credit to him, but that’s the problem, that’s not elite, it’s not even close.
I won’t list the Ipswich managers that had that success in the EFL but we’re way off this level, it’s DOZENS. All promoted, all failed at this level.
GON had already had more success than most of them ever did at this level…, get emotional about him, it’s more productive. | | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:24 - Jun 21 with 3682 views | BlueBadger |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:18 - Jun 21 by darkhorse28 |
His rest and recovery buddy is mitigating his £8 million release to probably join Celtic, and he’s paid £5 million a year after agreeing to leave for Brighton.
He worked incredibly hard. That’s very obvious…, by why wouldn’t you expect someone on £5 million a year to work hard?
Very good coach, still needs to earn his stripes at this level, as he was way short, and maybe having to run so fast in the EFL is the reason, maybe his delegation skills are way short at this level. This would suggest that, because he was way short.
For context Gary had a million times better record at this level, so why not put your hormonal hysteria in to something positive like supporting him, and moving on (forwards).
McKenna had a magical time here .., but would move on (at least three times he DID) in a millisecond - you’d do well to remember he’s not YOU, your an emotional teenage girl about our club, he isn’t!
He was cold, cynical, and did himself zero favour when he MADE us give him £5 million and £200 million for players.
The pressure THAT created on him, Ashton and the club is 80% why his relationship soured with Ashton.
You can’t pay a manger £5 million in the EFL, and spend so much on players with a £12 million TV deal in the EfL, it’s impossible. And he WOULD have been sacked without promotion, and it would all go back to his belief he was truly elite, and using us to get those resources and an eye watering salary.
He deserves HUGE credit. But he’s massively flawed. That wasn’t elite career planning …, he jumped to European manager levels. And delivered EFL football and revenue.
Saved the day with promotion.., but by the skin of our teeth…, it’s not hard to see why the relationship had too many pressure points. McKenna creating some of them is something he needs to reflect on.
Get paid commensurate with a long term project, if we go down, and he’d still be here!
That’s 100% on him, greed is how you’d describe it in other managers when you’re less hormonal and more objective.., and greed is what it was. Saw his media stock incredibly high, took full advantage and NO manager has ever warranted £5 million for success in the EFL because the r numbers simply don’t work…, we could have genuinely gone bust as club if we’d stayed in the championship two more years.
I don’t think you understand any of those implications.
We should celebrate GON he’s had a more elite career and he’s our manager…, good luck to KM he deserves huge success but you should also look at the 25 players he’s left.
We spent over £200 million gross, a lot of which is still liabilities, and what 10-15 points if we were lucky this season.
We got resources to go again, and that’s thanks to McKenna, but the legacy is mixed. This is a worse squad than the legacy group that cost almost nothing.
You judge a manager in what he leaves, and it’s success at EFL level, he hasn’t left a squad that can vaguely compete at this level - and GON had a HUGE recruitment job to do, one of the biggest I’ve ever seen for a newly promoted side .., that’s in McKenna too.
He was running very fast in the EFL, and full credit to him, but that’s the problem, that’s not elite, it’s not even close.
I won’t list the Ipswich managers that had that success in the EFL but we’re way off this level, it’s DOZENS. All promoted, all failed at this level.
GON had already had more success than most of them ever did at this level…, get emotional about him, it’s more productive. |
That's a lot of words for someone who's club got the open top bus out to celebrate finishing 9th. |  |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:49 - Jun 21 with 3576 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
I often fall asleep on long journeys. Not all heroes wear capes. |  |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:54 - Jun 21 with 3519 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:04 - Jun 21 by wkj |
Season 2's analysis is a bit harsh, Plymouth were consistently nicking games in the closing stages, but over all we were the better footballing side. I don't think trivialising anything in necessary to prove the point it made in your closing paragraphs.
The dude was knackered and probably was comfortable with what he'd achieved here. Either way, he's in our history books now as the perfect steward to repair the club, now we need someone who can evolve it - and that person is supposedly Gary O'Neil... i guess |
Our squad pretty much cost the same as the rest of the leagues transfer budget combined. | |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 11:01 - Jun 21 with 3448 views | wkj |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:54 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Our squad pretty much cost the same as the rest of the leagues transfer budget combined. |
And we achieved the objective with that squad. There is no way that season could be seen as a failure or under achievement. | |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 11:03 - Jun 21 with 3435 views | jas0999 |
I also wish him well.
Time to move on though.
Look forward to seeing him back in the dug out around October/November after the inevitable PL club sackings. To be clear, that won’t be here. | | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 11:04 - Jun 21 with 3429 views | jasondozzell |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:49 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I often fall asleep on long journeys. Not all heroes wear capes. |
Look inside that mullet. There must be a soul in there somewhere... [Post edited 21 Jun 11:04]
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 13:02 - Jun 21 with 3050 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 11:04 - Jun 21 by jasondozzell |
Look inside that mullet. There must be a soul in there somewhere... [Post edited 21 Jun 11:04]
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I rate KM (just behind Burley 😉), but I think some people go overboard on things
I'm sure he worked hard, just like all modern managers do. | |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 13:25 - Jun 21 with 2865 views | Blue_Heath |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 13:02 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I rate KM (just behind Burley 😉), but I think some people go overboard on things
I'm sure he worked hard, just like all modern managers do. |
It's a tough one but overall Burley's 5th place in prem has to trump any promotion despite Burley failing a few times in play offs. | |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 13:31 - Jun 21 with 2807 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 13:25 - Jun 21 by Blue_Heath |
It's a tough one but overall Burley's 5th place in prem has to trump any promotion despite Burley failing a few times in play offs. |
Just ask the managers to show their Premier League Manager of the Year trophies.
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 14:01 - Jun 21 with 2665 views | Illinoisblue |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:18 - Jun 21 by darkhorse28 |
His rest and recovery buddy is mitigating his £8 million release to probably join Celtic, and he’s paid £5 million a year after agreeing to leave for Brighton.
He worked incredibly hard. That’s very obvious…, by why wouldn’t you expect someone on £5 million a year to work hard?
Very good coach, still needs to earn his stripes at this level, as he was way short, and maybe having to run so fast in the EFL is the reason, maybe his delegation skills are way short at this level. This would suggest that, because he was way short.
For context Gary had a million times better record at this level, so why not put your hormonal hysteria in to something positive like supporting him, and moving on (forwards).
McKenna had a magical time here .., but would move on (at least three times he DID) in a millisecond - you’d do well to remember he’s not YOU, your an emotional teenage girl about our club, he isn’t!
He was cold, cynical, and did himself zero favour when he MADE us give him £5 million and £200 million for players.
The pressure THAT created on him, Ashton and the club is 80% why his relationship soured with Ashton.
You can’t pay a manger £5 million in the EFL, and spend so much on players with a £12 million TV deal in the EfL, it’s impossible. And he WOULD have been sacked without promotion, and it would all go back to his belief he was truly elite, and using us to get those resources and an eye watering salary.
He deserves HUGE credit. But he’s massively flawed. That wasn’t elite career planning …, he jumped to European manager levels. And delivered EFL football and revenue.
Saved the day with promotion.., but by the skin of our teeth…, it’s not hard to see why the relationship had too many pressure points. McKenna creating some of them is something he needs to reflect on.
Get paid commensurate with a long term project, if we go down, and he’d still be here!
That’s 100% on him, greed is how you’d describe it in other managers when you’re less hormonal and more objective.., and greed is what it was. Saw his media stock incredibly high, took full advantage and NO manager has ever warranted £5 million for success in the EFL because the r numbers simply don’t work…, we could have genuinely gone bust as club if we’d stayed in the championship two more years.
I don’t think you understand any of those implications.
We should celebrate GON he’s had a more elite career and he’s our manager…, good luck to KM he deserves huge success but you should also look at the 25 players he’s left.
We spent over £200 million gross, a lot of which is still liabilities, and what 10-15 points if we were lucky this season.
We got resources to go again, and that’s thanks to McKenna, but the legacy is mixed. This is a worse squad than the legacy group that cost almost nothing.
You judge a manager in what he leaves, and it’s success at EFL level, he hasn’t left a squad that can vaguely compete at this level - and GON had a HUGE recruitment job to do, one of the biggest I’ve ever seen for a newly promoted side .., that’s in McKenna too.
He was running very fast in the EFL, and full credit to him, but that’s the problem, that’s not elite, it’s not even close.
I won’t list the Ipswich managers that had that success in the EFL but we’re way off this level, it’s DOZENS. All promoted, all failed at this level.
GON had already had more success than most of them ever did at this level…, get emotional about him, it’s more productive. |
It’s impressive how you contradict yourself not just from paragraph to paragraph but from sentence to sentence. Almost as if you’re confused. |  |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 14:17 - Jun 21 with 2574 views | eireblue |
I didn’t think we were that dull. |  | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 14:21 - Jun 21 with 2545 views | BackToRussia |
There's already lots of revisionist b0llocks floating around about KM, but the fact of the matter is, barring the PL relegation season, he achieved every single objective he was set here (and with the first promotion to the PL, years ahead of schedule), and it remains to be seen if any other manager can or would have been able to keep us up. Anyone with a brain can see our recruitment was not good enough in the PL, the one thing that KM was not chiefly responsible for.
Anyone bringing up budgets, I would politely point to the likes of Leicester, Luton, Southampton, etc to show how budget is a guarantee of sweet FA, and we had finished 11th in League 1 prior to KM joining us. That is the depths to which we had fallen. He did a miraculously good job. |  |
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| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 15:09 - Jun 21 with 2340 views | Blue_In_Boston |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 13:02 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I rate KM (just behind Burley 😉), but I think some people go overboard on things
I'm sure he worked hard, just like all modern managers do. |
And I think that is what causes some of the conflict between the fans who have him on such a high pedestal and those who can see his failings.
Yes, he has done brilliant things for us, the first manager to achieve three promotions, which was only possible because he has one relegationon his CV. Perhaps that drop from the Premier League was inevitable, but we went without a whimper. Poorer teams than us have made a better fight of it.
Let's be grateful for the good times, but perhaps it was time to part company - a managers stock is only high for so long and a second relegation (hopefully not) could have KMK labelled as a promotion specialist like Scott Parker. | | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 15:55 - Jun 21 with 2182 views | Churchman |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:49 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I often fall asleep on long journeys. Not all heroes wear capes. |
Most of them wear trousers though 😃 |  | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 16:05 - Jun 21 with 2136 views | Churchman |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 13:02 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I rate KM (just behind Burley 😉), but I think some people go overboard on things
I'm sure he worked hard, just like all modern managers do. |
That’s where I rank him too. Overall he did a terrific job and the achievements after many years of nothing here were brilliant. The football was good too.
I never pay much attention to ‘working hard’ lines. Everyone should do that and when alls said and done we’ve all met people who worked hard but achieved zilch. Or said they worked hard and still achieved nothing. Undoubtably McKenna was effective.
He’s a bit of a closed book, rarely showing emotions. I have no inkling of what he’s like as a person after 4.5 years. That so many former players speak so well of him perhaps tells the story. | | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 18:41 - Jun 21 with 1685 views | Wakh |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 10:49 - Jun 21 by Marshalls_Mullet |
I often fall asleep on long journeys. Not all heroes wear capes. |
As a professional rugby coach the one thing I would NEVER DO is fall asleep on long journeys. If I did I would lose my eyebrows and wake up naked in Leigh Delamere with something unpleasant stuffed up my arse.
As a player I was locked in the changing rooms in Esher. They took my clothes and f***** off. After climbing through a window and chasing after the coach a lovely girl heading home from uni for an Easter break gave me her duvet and drove 80 miles out of her way to get me home in a Daihatsu Charade. Got some looks in McDonalds though.
If KMs been falling asleep on the bus I feel his pain | | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 18:54 - Jun 21 with 1601 views | pelles321 |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 14:17 - Jun 21 by eireblue |
I didn’t think we were that dull. |
I assumed that these were scouting videos in preparation for the Norwich game… |  | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 20:08 - Jun 21 with 1390 views | wischip |
I fell asleep twice watching England v Croatia. First literally at the kick off. Woke up as Harry Kane was retaking his penalty. Managed to stay awake until about 75mins. Never fell asleep watching McKenna's Ipswich. |  | | |
| Leif saying KM was almost falling asleep on the bus watching games... on 21:56 - Jun 21 with 1201 views | Vaughan8 |
These posts are just a bit OTT for me. "We didn't deserve him"? What a load of crock!
I'd imagine at lot of top managers work hard. What fuss would you have given him extra?
He's paid handsomely for a job which a lot of people would love to do.
Clearly if he's burnt out over it, he was doing too much. [Post edited 21 Jun 21:57]
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