| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... 13:51 - Jul 9 with 11885 views | bluelagos |
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What is your appeal going to be to the people of Clacton?
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:26 - Jul 10 with 953 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:21 - Jul 10 by redrickstuhaart |
"The bit about there not being a huge disconnect between liberals view (Kamala is brat, binface is highly amusing and the way you defeat Farage) and the ordinary public. "
Would you like to point to where I said anything about that?
I literally have no idea what you are trying to say at this point. Other than that you are constantly taking the positions which Nigel's voters would take! |
So you agree about the disconnect? |  | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:50 - Jul 10 with 934 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:16 - Jul 10 by redrickstuhaart |
Then you are delusional.
Which bit do you disagree with and why? |
This was clear several pages back. tbf. |  |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:51 - Jul 10 with 921 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:50 - Jul 10 by TheMoralMajority |
This was clear several pages back. tbf. |
As clear as anything other the centrist creed being mad extremism?
Scandinavians must frighten you! | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:55 - Jul 10 with 918 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:51 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
As clear as anything other the centrist creed being mad extremism?
Scandinavians must frighten you! |
Not really, no.
You espouse views as if you have been emerged in an echo-chamber where lots of people say lots of things using very long words, none of which have any real substance behind them, but everyone is very happy to pat each other on the back, and can give each other knowing winks that you know 'the answer'
Meanwhile, you have managed to push a thread out to 9 pages whilst no one has actually got to the bottom of what you believe beyond "blame the libs" (a meaningless soundbite if ever there was one), because whenever you are challenged you just start spouting pseudo intellectual nonsense again that has very little basis in fact.
But,yeah, keep pushing narratives. It will definitely solve all of the world's woes. | |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:59 - Jul 10 with 903 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:55 - Jul 10 by TheMoralMajority |
Not really, no.
You espouse views as if you have been emerged in an echo-chamber where lots of people say lots of things using very long words, none of which have any real substance behind them, but everyone is very happy to pat each other on the back, and can give each other knowing winks that you know 'the answer'
Meanwhile, you have managed to push a thread out to 9 pages whilst no one has actually got to the bottom of what you believe beyond "blame the libs" (a meaningless soundbite if ever there was one), because whenever you are challenged you just start spouting pseudo intellectual nonsense again that has very little basis in fact.
But,yeah, keep pushing narratives. It will definitely solve all of the world's woes. |
I just want this to stop. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 19:00 - Jul 10 with 901 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 18:55 - Jul 10 by TheMoralMajority |
Not really, no.
You espouse views as if you have been emerged in an echo-chamber where lots of people say lots of things using very long words, none of which have any real substance behind them, but everyone is very happy to pat each other on the back, and can give each other knowing winks that you know 'the answer'
Meanwhile, you have managed to push a thread out to 9 pages whilst no one has actually got to the bottom of what you believe beyond "blame the libs" (a meaningless soundbite if ever there was one), because whenever you are challenged you just start spouting pseudo intellectual nonsense again that has very little basis in fact.
But,yeah, keep pushing narratives. It will definitely solve all of the world's woes. |
What have I said that's pseudo intellectual | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 22:02 - Jul 10 with 802 views | naa |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 17:23 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
Libs' Binface infatuation is twee, self indulgent and performative! |
You are over thinking this so much it's painful.
People find the fact that Farage has left himself competing against a joke candidate to be funny. And it is funny. The people who do not like Farage are therefore making a big deal of it because it's funny.
Binface does not represent anything other than silly British humour.
The fact you can't just find it a little bit amusing is a shame.
This entire thing has nothing to do with the collapse of society caused by liberal dads,thats a different argument that you have shoe horned in despite not actually wanting to say anything of substance on the topic. |  | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 00:00 - Jul 11 with 725 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 22:02 - Jul 10 by naa |
You are over thinking this so much it's painful.
People find the fact that Farage has left himself competing against a joke candidate to be funny. And it is funny. The people who do not like Farage are therefore making a big deal of it because it's funny.
Binface does not represent anything other than silly British humour.
The fact you can't just find it a little bit amusing is a shame.
This entire thing has nothing to do with the collapse of society caused by liberal dads,thats a different argument that you have shoe horned in despite not actually wanting to say anything of substance on the topic. |
Nope.
Because what do you think a venn diagram of the 'adults are back in charge, grown ups in the room' re Starmer people and the 'Binface is hilarious showing up Nigel' people would look like?
Centrists are the least reflective people in politics. Still no insight into what happened in the last decade.
Still no explanation of why a government with an huge mandate was done in 6 months.
It's staggering. [Post edited 11 Jul 0:01]
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 00:08 - Jul 11 with 726 views | naa |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 00:00 - Jul 11 by jasondozzell |
Nope.
Because what do you think a venn diagram of the 'adults are back in charge, grown ups in the room' re Starmer people and the 'Binface is hilarious showing up Nigel' people would look like?
Centrists are the least reflective people in politics. Still no insight into what happened in the last decade.
Still no explanation of why a government with an huge mandate was done in 6 months.
It's staggering. [Post edited 11 Jul 0:01]
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Oh please.
As I said, it's funny Farage is competing against a bin (which literally was what this thread was until you derailed it with your very knowing but substance free comments).
Nothing more to be said. [Post edited 11 Jul 0:09]
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 08:28 - Jul 11 with 609 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 00:08 - Jul 11 by naa |
Oh please.
As I said, it's funny Farage is competing against a bin (which literally was what this thread was until you derailed it with your very knowing but substance free comments).
Nothing more to be said. [Post edited 11 Jul 0:09]
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Don't agree.
I think it's lazy. British politics is highly dysfunctional. Why? There's absolutely no reflection at all from those in the centre who got everything they wanted for the last 6 years. Why not? | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 08:52 - Jul 11 with 583 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 22:02 - Jul 10 by naa |
You are over thinking this so much it's painful.
People find the fact that Farage has left himself competing against a joke candidate to be funny. And it is funny. The people who do not like Farage are therefore making a big deal of it because it's funny.
Binface does not represent anything other than silly British humour.
The fact you can't just find it a little bit amusing is a shame.
This entire thing has nothing to do with the collapse of society caused by liberal dads,thats a different argument that you have shoe horned in despite not actually wanting to say anything of substance on the topic. |
Quite. I think it’s hilarious that Farage seems hoisted by his own petard (for now) and is going to spend his summer trying to win against a bin. It’s an appropriate level of farce for the farcical, unserious and dodgy Farage. This by-election is simply a joke. It has no bearing on the broader political landscape and tells us nothing about the state of things beyond the obvious Farage trying to escape scrutiny for dodgy funding.
The only shame for the people of Clacton who deserve better. |  |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 09:10 - Jul 11 with 539 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 08:52 - Jul 11 by Swansea_Blue |
Quite. I think it’s hilarious that Farage seems hoisted by his own petard (for now) and is going to spend his summer trying to win against a bin. It’s an appropriate level of farce for the farcical, unserious and dodgy Farage. This by-election is simply a joke. It has no bearing on the broader political landscape and tells us nothing about the state of things beyond the obvious Farage trying to escape scrutiny for dodgy funding.
The only shame for the people of Clacton who deserve better. |
You finally got there in the last sentence.
Now extrapolate a bit further! | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 09:22 - Jul 11 with 499 views | naa |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 09:10 - Jul 11 by jasondozzell |
You finally got there in the last sentence.
Now extrapolate a bit further! |
Please stop. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 09:40 - Jul 11 with 475 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 09:22 - Jul 11 by naa |
Please stop. |
I will if you do! | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 10:05 - Jul 11 with 455 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 09:10 - Jul 11 by jasondozzell |
You finally got there in the last sentence.
Now extrapolate a bit further! |
You’re not finding any answers in this joke of a by-election. Either enjoy the surrealism or ignore it would be my advice. | |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:19 - Jul 11 with 399 views | eirannach_gorm |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 09:10 - Jul 11 by jasondozzell |
You finally got there in the last sentence.
Now extrapolate a bit further! |
You seem quite knowledgeable ( or at least have lots of big words ) maybe you can enlighten us on the solution to the woes of UK politics? | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:25 - Jul 11 with 387 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:19 - Jul 11 by eirannach_gorm |
You seem quite knowledgeable ( or at least have lots of big words ) maybe you can enlighten us on the solution to the woes of UK politics? |
Yep.
The acceptance that the centre has collapsed for a reason.
Honesty, principles and vision. A reassertion of the power and dignity of the role of the state in an individual's life. A reawakening of collectivism V individualism.
Most importantly debate and argument over issues of substance. This will require political establishment and political media to be separated again. [Post edited 11 Jul 11:26]
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:40 - Jul 11 with 367 views | naa |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:19 - Jul 11 by eirannach_gorm |
You seem quite knowledgeable ( or at least have lots of big words ) maybe you can enlighten us on the solution to the woes of UK politics? |
It's been 9 pages without anything of substance, not much chance of getting anything now. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:43 - Jul 11 with 363 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:25 - Jul 11 by jasondozzell |
Yep.
The acceptance that the centre has collapsed for a reason.
Honesty, principles and vision. A reassertion of the power and dignity of the role of the state in an individual's life. A reawakening of collectivism V individualism.
Most importantly debate and argument over issues of substance. This will require political establishment and political media to be separated again. [Post edited 11 Jul 11:26]
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:46 - Jul 11 with 356 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:43 - Jul 11 by TheMoralMajority |
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I wouldn't call asking for the reintroduction of principles in politics, calling for a reimagination of state power and the end of the revolving door between politics and political media pseudo intellectual.
But I suppose it may sound so to centrists. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:48 - Jul 11 with 350 views | naa |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:25 - Jul 11 by jasondozzell |
Yep.
The acceptance that the centre has collapsed for a reason.
Honesty, principles and vision. A reassertion of the power and dignity of the role of the state in an individual's life. A reawakening of collectivism V individualism.
Most importantly debate and argument over issues of substance. This will require political establishment and political media to be separated again. [Post edited 11 Jul 11:26]
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That's the headlines from Socialist worker.
If you can accept that that isn't going to happen in this country (look into its entire history to see why not) try coming up with practical suggestions. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:50 - Jul 11 with 348 views | TheMoralMajority |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:46 - Jul 11 by jasondozzell |
I wouldn't call asking for the reintroduction of principles in politics, calling for a reimagination of state power and the end of the revolving door between politics and political media pseudo intellectual.
But I suppose it may sound so to centrists. |
I know you wouldn't, because you appear to lack the faculty to perform any critical thinking of your own, preferring to reject facts for labels and narratives. | |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:51 - Jul 11 with 345 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:48 - Jul 11 by naa |
That's the headlines from Socialist worker.
If you can accept that that isn't going to happen in this country (look into its entire history to see why not) try coming up with practical suggestions. |
No it's not.
It's mild democratic socialism and they have it in Scandinavia.
Collectivism V individualism as a cultural construct. I'm not talking about communism! | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:52 - Jul 11 with 343 views | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:50 - Jul 11 by TheMoralMajority |
I know you wouldn't, because you appear to lack the faculty to perform any critical thinking of your own, preferring to reject facts for labels and narratives. |
Narratives are powerful. They are how we explain the world to ourselves.
What facts am I rejecting? Have you got them there on a piece of paper? | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:55 - Jul 11 with 336 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:46 - Jul 11 by jasondozzell |
I wouldn't call asking for the reintroduction of principles in politics, calling for a reimagination of state power and the end of the revolving door between politics and political media pseudo intellectual.
But I suppose it may sound so to centrists. |
The state hasn’t proved trustworthy with more power though - designating protesters as terrorists, removal of (some) jury trials, compulsory ID, attempting to cancel local elections. How can we ensure that more power to the state isn’t a route into totalitarianism? In my opinion rejoining the EU would be a start, they could potentially overrule abuses.
Just a few thoughts as someone concerned with the erosion of our civil liberties, and scepticism around state overreach. | | | |
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