| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... 13:51 - Jul 9 with 13402 views | bluelagos |
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What is your appeal going to be to the people of Clacton?
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:47 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:39 - Jul 10 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Nobody is saying it isn’t real, but by its very definition- that isn’t what we have. ‘Neoliberalism’, or rather free markets isn’t where we are, we are not low tax, light touch regulatory environment. The energy market is not untouched by government intervention, spending caps are the antithesis of free markets capitalism. You wouldn’t consider for example Scandinavian countries as neo-liberal, they particularly Norway are mixed exonomies, and yet we have stricter regulation of the financial sector than they do.
Yes GB energy is a waste of time, the left never proposed state intervention in the energy production market. Corbyn only ever proposed to nationalise utilities, which makes up a whopping 2pc of your energy bill at an estimated cost of £200bn. It would have had de minumus impact on bills at huge cost. [Post edited 10 Jul 11:55]
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Let's go Scandi. It sounds good!
Maybe a consensus is emerging. |  | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:50 - Jul 10 | redrickstuhaart |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:45 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
Nice lines.
So you want the number of centrist dads in the country?
Unsure how to be certain. But I think a free frightening amount although they are a minority. |
Bizarre pejorative.
Being a Father is a pretty good thing to be. Not being wed to an extreme is also pretty good. |  |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:54 - Jul 10 | grow_our_own |
I don't really mind "gammon". Demographically accurate to say brexit voters were heavily white men, upper-middle age and older. Remainers would say they railed against imaginary grievances, and their vote was like the Simpsons angry old man shaking his fist at a passing cloud. I think gammon is light hearted enough satire in the circumstances.
"Centrist dad" on the other hand is misandry. In reality, there's not much of a male/female split when it comes to those who identify as centrist. What age is a "dad"? More centrists among the 25-49 age group than older. Are people > 49 not parents? It's just trying to place centrists in a demographic box that doesn't exist in reality. It's trying to say: people who believe in moderate politics, evidence-based, nuanced policies, and balancing competing interests are just "that little lot over there, not you". [Post edited 10 Jul 12:00]
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:54 - Jul 10 | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:47 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
Let's go Scandi. It sounds good!
Maybe a consensus is emerging. |
Okay well that’s kind of what I proposed the other day, so your pension would shift to a mandatory employers scheme, with a basic one for those over 70 or unable to work etc. Then we can have properly funded public services, and not screw the young. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:55 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:50 - Jul 10 by redrickstuhaart |
Bizarre pejorative.
Being a Father is a pretty good thing to be. Not being wed to an extreme is also pretty good. |
Oh they aren't a bad lot really, just hugely deluded. And unfortunately they've had far too much sway.
Although they are bloody annoying. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:56 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:54 - Jul 10 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
Okay well that’s kind of what I proposed the other day, so your pension would shift to a mandatory employers scheme, with a basic one for those over 70 or unable to work etc. Then we can have properly funded public services, and not screw the young. |
Have we...
Found some common ground?! 😅
Scandi style here we come. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:57 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:54 - Jul 10 by grow_our_own |
I don't really mind "gammon". Demographically accurate to say brexit voters were heavily white men, upper-middle age and older. Remainers would say they railed against imaginary grievances, and their vote was like the Simpsons angry old man shaking his fist at a passing cloud. I think gammon is light hearted enough satire in the circumstances.
"Centrist dad" on the other hand is misandry. In reality, there's not much of a male/female split when it comes to those who identify as centrist. What age is a "dad"? More centrists among the 25-49 age group than older. Are people > 49 not parents? It's just trying to place centrists in a demographic box that doesn't exist in reality. It's trying to say: people who believe in moderate politics, evidence-based, nuanced policies, and balancing competing interests are just "that little lot over there, not you". [Post edited 10 Jul 12:00]
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:58 - Jul 10 | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:56 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
Have we...
Found some common ground?! 😅
Scandi style here we come. |
Pretty much what I’ve said all along, but yeah ageing population is the biggest contributor to decline of living standards. Just takes some brave politicians unfortunately as it’s not a vote winner with the older generation and powerful voting bloc. | | | |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:03 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:54 - Jul 10 by grow_our_own |
I don't really mind "gammon". Demographically accurate to say brexit voters were heavily white men, upper-middle age and older. Remainers would say they railed against imaginary grievances, and their vote was like the Simpsons angry old man shaking his fist at a passing cloud. I think gammon is light hearted enough satire in the circumstances.
"Centrist dad" on the other hand is misandry. In reality, there's not much of a male/female split when it comes to those who identify as centrist. What age is a "dad"? More centrists among the 25-49 age group than older. Are people > 49 not parents? It's just trying to place centrists in a demographic box that doesn't exist in reality. It's trying to say: people who believe in moderate politics, evidence-based, nuanced policies, and balancing competing interests are just "that little lot over there, not you". [Post edited 10 Jul 12:00]
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I'm just not sure that centrist Dads believe in much really. Maybe Strava? | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:06 - Jul 10 | grow_our_own |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:57 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
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Congratulations, you can count to two. Would you like a gold star? Pretty sure this doesn't make centrists disproportionately male or fathers. [Post edited 10 Jul 12:06]
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:06 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:06 - Jul 10 by grow_our_own |
Congratulations, you can count to two. Would you like a gold star? Pretty sure this doesn't make centrists disproportionately male or fathers. [Post edited 10 Jul 12:06]
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Play the vid! | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:13 - Jul 10 | mrshallisfit |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 13:59 - Jul 9 by CaptainAhab |
He's hit a nerve! |
To be fair. He was born to inherit the term 'cockwomble'. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:15 - Jul 10 | eireblue |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 11:45 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
Nice lines.
So you want the number of centrist dads in the country?
Unsure how to be certain. But I think a free frightening amount although they are a minority. |
Mate, if you want to start quoting Shakespeare to make points, I am happy to play that.
So you actual are using a label, to identify a minority, just like some people use the term gammon.
And you aren’t prepared to put in some actual work yourself. Although you tell others to think.
Sorry I meant, think!
Lazy. |  | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:19 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:15 - Jul 10 by eireblue |
Mate, if you want to start quoting Shakespeare to make points, I am happy to play that.
So you actual are using a label, to identify a minority, just like some people use the term gammon.
And you aren’t prepared to put in some actual work yourself. Although you tell others to think.
Sorry I meant, think!
Lazy. |
All words are labels.They don't change the essence of the thing.
Professional managerial class if you prefer that to centrist dads. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:40 - Jul 10 | eireblue |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:19 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
All words are labels.They don't change the essence of the thing.
Professional managerial class if you prefer that to centrist dads. |
Nope.
The term "centrist dad" emerged around 2017, popularized by Matt Zarb-Cousin, who described it as referring to middle-aged men struggling to adapt to changing political landscapes. It is often used pejoratively to characterize individuals who hold moderate views and exhibit condescension towards younger, more progressive activists.
The professional-managerial class (PMC) is a social class within capitalism that includes educated professionals like doctors, lawyers, and academics, who do not own the means of production but occupy managerial roles. This class emerged in the late 19th century and is characterized by its distinct relationship to both the working class and the capitalist class.
You are choosing to use a pejorative term about certain men. Just like some people use gammon.
A senior female surgeon with no children approaching retirement would be in the PMC class.
If you have to use pejorative terms about groups of people to define your politics and what you are against, you look the same as Reform and Restore to me.
Even Count Binface knows better than that.
“Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately”
No -ism’s no pejorative terms for minorities, a plainly state policy, that will have obvious benefit. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:46 - Jul 10 | TheMoralMajority |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:03 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
I'm just not sure that centrist Dads believe in much really. Maybe Strava? |
I would say your issue is more with apoliticism rather than centrism, but at this point, it really is very hard to tell. |  |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:57 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:46 - Jul 10 by TheMoralMajority |
I would say your issue is more with apoliticism rather than centrism, but at this point, it really is very hard to tell. |
Centrism is apolitical. That's exactly it. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:57 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:40 - Jul 10 by eireblue |
Nope.
The term "centrist dad" emerged around 2017, popularized by Matt Zarb-Cousin, who described it as referring to middle-aged men struggling to adapt to changing political landscapes. It is often used pejoratively to characterize individuals who hold moderate views and exhibit condescension towards younger, more progressive activists.
The professional-managerial class (PMC) is a social class within capitalism that includes educated professionals like doctors, lawyers, and academics, who do not own the means of production but occupy managerial roles. This class emerged in the late 19th century and is characterized by its distinct relationship to both the working class and the capitalist class.
You are choosing to use a pejorative term about certain men. Just like some people use gammon.
A senior female surgeon with no children approaching retirement would be in the PMC class.
If you have to use pejorative terms about groups of people to define your politics and what you are against, you look the same as Reform and Restore to me.
Even Count Binface knows better than that.
“Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately”
No -ism’s no pejorative terms for minorities, a plainly state policy, that will have obvious benefit. |
Centrist Dads don't like it up them! 😅 | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:59 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:40 - Jul 10 by eireblue |
Nope.
The term "centrist dad" emerged around 2017, popularized by Matt Zarb-Cousin, who described it as referring to middle-aged men struggling to adapt to changing political landscapes. It is often used pejoratively to characterize individuals who hold moderate views and exhibit condescension towards younger, more progressive activists.
The professional-managerial class (PMC) is a social class within capitalism that includes educated professionals like doctors, lawyers, and academics, who do not own the means of production but occupy managerial roles. This class emerged in the late 19th century and is characterized by its distinct relationship to both the working class and the capitalist class.
You are choosing to use a pejorative term about certain men. Just like some people use gammon.
A senior female surgeon with no children approaching retirement would be in the PMC class.
If you have to use pejorative terms about groups of people to define your politics and what you are against, you look the same as Reform and Restore to me.
Even Count Binface knows better than that.
“Auto-renew on all online subscriptions to be abolished immediately”
No -ism’s no pejorative terms for minorities, a plainly state policy, that will have obvious benefit. |
In a way, Count Binface is the logical end of a movement that ran out of ideas a long time ago and isn't interested in addressing reality. | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 13:07 - Jul 10 | TheMoralMajority |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:57 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
Centrism is apolitical. That's exactly it. |
Errrrm. It isn't.
I would link you to resources to better educate yourself on this, but I have already learned that I would be wasting both of our time.
Basically, your ire is misdirected, but I don't expect you to realise or accept that. | |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... (n/t) on 13:11 - Jul 10 | eireblue |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:57 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
Centrist Dads don't like it up them! 😅 |
Evidence? [Post edited 10 Jul 13:11]
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 13:13 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 13:07 - Jul 10 by TheMoralMajority |
Errrrm. It isn't.
I would link you to resources to better educate yourself on this, but I have already learned that I would be wasting both of our time.
Basically, your ire is misdirected, but I don't expect you to realise or accept that. |
What are centrism's belief set?
What was Starmerism? | | | |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... (n/t) on 13:14 - Jul 10 | jasondozzell |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... (n/t) on 13:11 - Jul 10 by eireblue |
Evidence? [Post edited 10 Jul 13:11]
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Reaction of many on this thread! 😅
Plus the meltdown witnessed during the Corbyn years. [Post edited 10 Jul 13:14]
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 13:17 - Jul 10 | redrickstuhaart |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... on 12:57 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
Centrism is apolitical. That's exactly it. |
It literally isn't. | |
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| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... (n/t) on 13:24 - Jul 10 | eireblue |
| Count Binface on R4 Today this morning... (n/t) on 13:14 - Jul 10 by jasondozzell |
Reaction of many on this thread! 😅
Plus the meltdown witnessed during the Corbyn years. [Post edited 10 Jul 13:14]
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This is why your politics are weak.
You have no evidence.
I have been debating with you on this topic.
Show me the evidence that I am a Dad, middle aged, or had a meltdown during the Corbyn years.
Try this, show me evidence that my political leanings are “centrist”.
So far what is in evidence, is that you use pejorative terms, you don’t read posts and/or avoid questions.
Like I said, in essence, not much different to supporters of Reform or Restore, just more verbose.
Which brings me to think,….oh man…..is this why you are dissing Count Binface….it is isn’t it?
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