| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? 14:50 - Jul 16 with 3583 views | ITFC_Forever |
And were just waiting for the managerial appointment to rubber-stamp them?
GO’N has been in post for several weeks now, come on Ashton… pull your finger out… |  |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:14 - Jul 16 with 756 views | DanTheMan |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:07 - Jul 16 by IndependentlyBlue |
OP said ‘well down the road’,Ashton didn’t.
Ashton was less emphatic than OP suggests.
Minor point, but important. |
“We’re down the road of a number,” Ashton said when quizzed on the current position regarding signings.
I'm not sure how many ways there are to take that...
At the end of the days, things happen and can go wrong but Ashton really didn't need to come out and say it.
If I remember the context, it was that they wanted to new manager in to give the thumbs up or down on them. |  |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:17 - Jul 16 with 742 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:14 - Jul 16 by DanTheMan |
“We’re down the road of a number,” Ashton said when quizzed on the current position regarding signings.
I'm not sure how many ways there are to take that...
At the end of the days, things happen and can go wrong but Ashton really didn't need to come out and say it.
If I remember the context, it was that they wanted to new manager in to give the thumbs up or down on them. |
You can be well down the line and waiting on other deals in the chain to happen to be fair. Our deals don't happen in a vacuum. |  | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:18 - Jul 16 with 736 views | DanTheMan |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:17 - Jul 16 by tractorboy1978 |
You can be well down the line and waiting on other deals in the chain to happen to be fair. Our deals don't happen in a vacuum. |
For sure, there's loads of reasons we might not have them in the door.
Which is why it was a silly thing to say, as it gets people's expectations up. | |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:26 - Jul 16 with 690 views | Billywitch |
Our manager is currently doing pre season with a bunch of players that will be moved on, or squad players, the "first teamers" will be new signings (you'd hope)
But agree, things need to get a wiggle on dont they | | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:28 - Jul 16 with 685 views | cressi |
It's a long road and we are on foot. | | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:37 - Jul 16 with 650 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
Maybe GON has taken training and thought Al Hamadi and Mehmeti are all the fire power we need for a top half finish.
All transfers off. |  | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:41 - Jul 16 with 635 views | Bellevue_Blue |
There have been 50 total signings across all 20 clubs.
Brighton, Chelsea, Spurs and City account for close to half.
It's clearly not a market that is moving with much speed at the moment. | | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:47 - Jul 16 with 605 views | Vic |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:07 - Jul 16 by IndependentlyBlue |
OP said ‘well down the road’,Ashton didn’t.
Ashton was less emphatic than OP suggests.
Minor point, but important. |
Huh! Shoulda gone to specsavers because from what I read in that article that exact phase is used twice. |  |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:51 - Jul 16 with 593 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:41 - Jul 16 by Bellevue_Blue |
There have been 50 total signings across all 20 clubs.
Brighton, Chelsea, Spurs and City account for close to half.
It's clearly not a market that is moving with much speed at the moment. |
The fact is we don't have a team that can win games right now, we need players to come in and settle in a bit. They are only human too. | | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:59 - Jul 16 with 562 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:51 - Jul 16 by WolfieAtTheBack |
The fact is we don't have a team that can win games right now, we need players to come in and settle in a bit. They are only human too. |
So do Hull and Coventry. Cov have signed two, Hull one.
It's not because they aren't trying is it. | | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:59 - Jul 16 with 562 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:07 - Jul 16 by IndependentlyBlue |
OP said ‘well down the road’,Ashton didn’t.
Ashton was less emphatic than OP suggests.
Minor point, but important. |
The clear insinuation was that a number of deals just needed managerial input.
"Alot of deals where we need to get them," i think thats pretty bang in in line with the OPS point. Ive made a similar post a week or so ago, I dont think its unreasonable to ask questions given the statement and only 1 senior player signed thus far.
2 options.
1. GON kyboshed a number of deals as not fitting his plan
2. Mark Ashton over egged the pudding
At what point does is it start to become a worry?
Of course players will arrive though the window, I have no issue with that but given the number we need to bed in we do need some players in fairly sharpish.
I've never been 1 for signing players just for the sake of it and maybe those we think can improve us are out of reach and if so, fine. But as I have said before, its a poor choice of words if we didnt have more than Emersonn lined up and Ashtons communication has been a bit off recently |  |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:01 - Jul 16 with 553 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:59 - Jul 16 by Bellevue_Blue |
So do Hull and Coventry. Cov have signed two, Hull one.
It's not because they aren't trying is it. |
Hull look v close to adding 2 more though | |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:02 - Jul 16 with 551 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:59 - Jul 16 by Bellevue_Blue |
So do Hull and Coventry. Cov have signed two, Hull one.
It's not because they aren't trying is it. |
I don't think Hull and Cov fans expect them to stay up, but that is a whole different chat ha | | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:10 - Jul 16 with 529 views | BloomBlue |
I was well down the road once on a very long car drive, having a break at the 500 miles mark, and then realised I still had another 650 miles to go.
I guess 'well down the road' means different levels to different people. |  | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:35 - Jul 16 with 467 views | ITFCSG |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:02 - Jul 16 by WolfieAtTheBack |
I don't think Hull and Cov fans expect them to stay up, but that is a whole different chat ha |
Acun Ilıcalı and Doug King don't shoot their mouths off at every opportunity | | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:38 - Jul 16 with 447 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 15:44 - Jul 16 by Zx1988 |
I'm not sure it is. A direct quote from Phil's article on the matter:
"Chairman and CEO Mark Ashton says the Blues are “down the road on a number” of signings ahead of the appointment of their new manager.
Ashton is likely to have another busy summer as Town prepare for their return to the Premier League.
He says several moves are progressed and are now awaiting the appointment of their new manager with Strasbourg boss Gary O’Neil now looking set to be the man set to take over from Kieran McKenna, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer having been the other leading contender.
“We’re down the road of a number,” Ashton said when quizzed on the current position regarding signings. “The recruitment team is more robust physically than it’s probably ever been at this football club, but you are still fishing in a very competitive pond for players.
“And we’re at the point now where I think we’ve got a lot of deals to where we need to get them but a manager now needs input.”"
No different to what OP has said. Down the road on a number of signings, to the point that managerial input/sign-off was required. |
Sorry, but that absolutely does not say they are ready to rubber stamp.
"...a manager now needs input." is a long way from saying they're done and just needs sign-off by the manger. It's much more sensible/realistic to read this as 'we've done our due diligence in preparation for the new manager to look at them, and now need to get his take on the options'. That's far earlier in the cycle than 'it's a done deal that just needs sign-off'
This is all down to people reading far more into the words than there is there, and setting their own expectations wrongly.
I'm not saying that I'm not frustrated that we've yet to make more signings, just that I never read it as 'O'Neil just needs to rubber stamp a list of deal we've done' That's just a crazy take for anyone to have concluded, with a new manager coming through the door with his own views on what he'll need. | | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:44 - Jul 16 with 442 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:59 - Jul 16 by BlueandTruesince82 |
The clear insinuation was that a number of deals just needed managerial input.
"Alot of deals where we need to get them," i think thats pretty bang in in line with the OPS point. Ive made a similar post a week or so ago, I dont think its unreasonable to ask questions given the statement and only 1 senior player signed thus far.
2 options.
1. GON kyboshed a number of deals as not fitting his plan
2. Mark Ashton over egged the pudding
At what point does is it start to become a worry?
Of course players will arrive though the window, I have no issue with that but given the number we need to bed in we do need some players in fairly sharpish.
I've never been 1 for signing players just for the sake of it and maybe those we think can improve us are out of reach and if so, fine. But as I have said before, its a poor choice of words if we didnt have more than Emersonn lined up and Ashtons communication has been a bit off recently |
At what point does is it start to become a worry?
Good question, for me it comes down the expectations if by August they have not got the RIGHT players in the building then they should come out and say due to a difficult window we are not where we want to be, we are going to give it our best shot but this is where we are at and stick with us.
They are unlikely to ever ever do this, but, actions speak louder than words, if we are going into the season with these players we all know the outcome before a ball has been kicked. [Post edited 16 Jul 17:44]
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:52 - Jul 16 with 404 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 15:02 - Jul 16 by RetroBlue |
Youre probably right because there seems to be movement in the Championship regarding players signing for clubs.... |
They start a lot earlier though. I think the early cup rounds are in a few weeks (somewhere like 7th August whereas we don’t start until the 22nd). Not that I’m saying we shouldn’t be getting a crack on. The sooner the better.
I don’t have any faith in us getting what we need. It’s a gut feeling only plus looking at how our last PL signings panned out, or didn’t in the case of a couple of long-running sagas that came to nothing. For whatever reason, it feels like we’d hit a ceiling. I’m not sure if that’s recruitment setup/staff, Ashton, manager (KM last time of course). I wouldn’t be at all surprised if GON has pushed back against identified targets and they’ve had a reality check about the level we should have been aiming for all along. It’s a hunch only and no I have no evidence (other than the crap season last time). |  |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:58 - Jul 16 with 390 views | SuffolkPunchFC |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:59 - Jul 16 by BlueandTruesince82 |
The clear insinuation was that a number of deals just needed managerial input.
"Alot of deals where we need to get them," i think thats pretty bang in in line with the OPS point. Ive made a similar post a week or so ago, I dont think its unreasonable to ask questions given the statement and only 1 senior player signed thus far.
2 options.
1. GON kyboshed a number of deals as not fitting his plan
2. Mark Ashton over egged the pudding
At what point does is it start to become a worry?
Of course players will arrive though the window, I have no issue with that but given the number we need to bed in we do need some players in fairly sharpish.
I've never been 1 for signing players just for the sake of it and maybe those we think can improve us are out of reach and if so, fine. But as I have said before, its a poor choice of words if we didnt have more than Emersonn lined up and Ashtons communication has been a bit off recently |
So, was it 'managerial input' or 'rubber stamping'? Two very different phases.
You'd expect the manager to have a lot of say in who we sign, so if we were waiting for a NEW manager, with specific ideas, to give his input, that's nowhere near to being ready to rubber stamp player signings. | | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:59 - Jul 16 with 384 views | muccletonjoe |
If this goes on through to the end of next week, most supporters are going to be concerned, a new manager puts us behind where we would have been under KM , but our chances of starting the season on the front foot are diminishing, by the end of next week they will be disappearing. Simply cant be going into September still trying to assemble a settled team. |  | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 18:03 - Jul 16 with 372 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:59 - Jul 16 by muccletonjoe |
If this goes on through to the end of next week, most supporters are going to be concerned, a new manager puts us behind where we would have been under KM , but our chances of starting the season on the front foot are diminishing, by the end of next week they will be disappearing. Simply cant be going into September still trying to assemble a settled team. |
People need to manage expectations that we will very much be building the team until near the end of the window. We tend to normally even when we’ve not had a disrupted summer. I agree that people will start getting twitchy if we don’t make significant progress over the next 2/3 weeks. | |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 18:11 - Jul 16 with 336 views | runaround |
Most of us don’t know what the current state of play is with transfers which is why some fans are getting twitchy. But these things take time and Ashton and the club can’t change some things. Clubs and players might be waiting before deciding to see all the options. It’s quite possible some transfers are all agreed apart from the selling club giving the final okay as they are waiting on other moves to happen first. I think once we get another one in the door people will feel easier about but unfortunately a lot of moves won’t take place until August |  | | |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 18:12 - Jul 16 with 330 views | IndependentlyBlue |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 16:47 - Jul 16 by Vic |
Huh! Shoulda gone to specsavers because from what I read in that article that exact phase is used twice. |
The phrase ‘down the road’ was used twice but not the phrase ‘well down the road’.
Which was the point I was making. |  |
| Better to stay silent and be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 18:14 - Jul 16 with 322 views | BlueandTruesince82 |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 17:58 - Jul 16 by SuffolkPunchFC |
So, was it 'managerial input' or 'rubber stamping'? Two very different phases.
You'd expect the manager to have a lot of say in who we sign, so if we were waiting for a NEW manager, with specific ideas, to give his input, that's nowhere near to being ready to rubber stamp player signings. |
Either way the suggestion was deals were advanced. If you take the statement as a whole its more than clear.
Down the road
Deals where we need them to be
I honestly can't see how that can be interpreted as at the very least things are moving. Subsequent to that Emmersonn is the only movement we've seen, we need to integrate a lot of players. Its not unreasonable to be concerned at this point. | |
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| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 18:33 - Jul 16 with 272 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Thought we were supposed to be well down the road with several signings? on 18:03 - Jul 16 by Swansea_Blue |
People need to manage expectations that we will very much be building the team until near the end of the window. We tend to normally even when we’ve not had a disrupted summer. I agree that people will start getting twitchy if we don’t make significant progress over the next 2/3 weeks. |
I am sure they would have wanted as many new recruits as possible for the training games / camps mind.
Signing loads of players after the camp seems the wrong way round to me as you want the players to bond and play a bit. | | | |
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