| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover 10:37 - Sep 5 with 30463 views | Axeldalai_lama |
Will be interesting to see how they're compared to environmental groups who did the same and who mainly showed their faces. Were anti terror laws used against them in the end? Weren't there calls by certain sections on the right to run them over?
Let's wait and see. |  | | |  |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:41 - Sep 6 with 940 views | Ryorry |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:30 - Sep 6 by StokieBlue |
Yet you've asked for more personal information today, after the impersonation incident, you don't see the issue here?
I would never ask anyone about their personal life on here, it's for them to voluntarily post or it's off limits. I think it's a hugely unacceptable thing to even ask.
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You could have PM’d me.
Unless you think it was me who was stalking you (I’m sure Admin/platform tech could prove it wasn’t). |  |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:44 - Sep 6 with 915 views | positivity |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:53 - Sep 6 by Benters |
I wonder if anyone of those that down arrowed me would be so kind to explain to me why it is a good idea ? |
it's very simple,
would you rather see a reduction in the number of people that come over, but bigger boats used?
or more people in total in smaller boats?
labour are reducing the total numbers coming over in a way that the tories never have been able to and reform never will.
why does that worry you? |  |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:48 - Sep 6 with 879 views | Swansea_Blue |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:00 - Sep 6 by Dubtractor |
Just seen this shared as a pretty direct comparison.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-
Also saw the story of just stop oil protesters who were jailed for just planning an m25 protest.
2 tier justice indeed...... |
There are loads of other examples. That’s why I was wondering why nothing is being done by masked thugs also causing disruption. It could well be simply that the police didn’t think they had the resources to tackle far right extremists with a history of violence. That sounds logical, but we don’t know for sure. Questions should be asked of the police and we should be hearing why these thugs are allowed to gather and intimidate while hiding their faces. They’ll be breaking laws doing what they’re doing so the free pass seems strange to say the least. |  |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:49 - Sep 6 with 870 views | Mullet |
Domestic terrorists simple as that. They should be treated as such. Same as the Palestine Action lot were. |  |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:51 - Sep 6 with 865 views | positivity |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:38 - Sep 6 by balcombeblue |
We've had some good exchanges before. I don't like the applied nature of your post at all and hopefully you'll retract it. |
maybe you could explain why you went to blm as an example
blm is an overwhelmingly peaceful mass movement asking for equality of treatment, yesterday was a load of blackshirts in balaclavas marching through kent towns chanting "the streets are ours", the opposite of equality | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:55 - Sep 6 with 845 views | balcombeblue |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:48 - Sep 6 by Swansea_Blue |
There are loads of other examples. That’s why I was wondering why nothing is being done by masked thugs also causing disruption. It could well be simply that the police didn’t think they had the resources to tackle far right extremists with a history of violence. That sounds logical, but we don’t know for sure. Questions should be asked of the police and we should be hearing why these thugs are allowed to gather and intimidate while hiding their faces. They’ll be breaking laws doing what they’re doing so the free pass seems strange to say the least. |
I suspect it's because the police didn't have the manpower to do anything about it. I suppose tactically they actually got it right because it passed off 'peacefully'.
When people glue/attach themselves to objects it is a slightly different situation. It seems inherently less safe for both them and the public to do this. My opinion is that they should just be left glued there!
A couple of other relevant things. We don't know the contact the group may have had during the protest, so that could impact the operational approach from the police. Do we know if these people/thugs have a history of violence? |  | | |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:00 - Sep 6 with 813 views | positivity |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:55 - Sep 6 by balcombeblue |
I suspect it's because the police didn't have the manpower to do anything about it. I suppose tactically they actually got it right because it passed off 'peacefully'.
When people glue/attach themselves to objects it is a slightly different situation. It seems inherently less safe for both them and the public to do this. My opinion is that they should just be left glued there!
A couple of other relevant things. We don't know the contact the group may have had during the protest, so that could impact the operational approach from the police. Do we know if these people/thugs have a history of violence? |
the leader was jailed for 2 years for armed kidnapping and is a close colleague of yaxley-lennon, another darling of elon musk | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:03 - Sep 6 with 795 views | Swansea_Blue |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:55 - Sep 6 by balcombeblue |
I suspect it's because the police didn't have the manpower to do anything about it. I suppose tactically they actually got it right because it passed off 'peacefully'.
When people glue/attach themselves to objects it is a slightly different situation. It seems inherently less safe for both them and the public to do this. My opinion is that they should just be left glued there!
A couple of other relevant things. We don't know the contact the group may have had during the protest, so that could impact the operational approach from the police. Do we know if these people/thugs have a history of violence? |
Hope Not Hate seem to think was organised by Patriot Platform, the latest reincarnation of groups linked to Tommy Robinson, with various histories of violence and domestic abuse, etc. They look like a very obviously racist vigilante group who are coordinating similar local far right groups with the aim of intimidating migrants.
https://hopenothate.org.uk/202 | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:13 - Sep 6 with 758 views | balcombeblue |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:51 - Sep 6 by positivity |
maybe you could explain why you went to blm as an example
blm is an overwhelmingly peaceful mass movement asking for equality of treatment, yesterday was a load of blackshirts in balaclavas marching through kent towns chanting "the streets are ours", the opposite of equality |
You've chosen not to, which is a shame.
As I said yesterday, there were a number of violent clashes during the BLM protests and so I used it as an example to compare to yesterday, where to date this hadn't happened. I am happy to include other examples such as Southport. | | | |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:13 - Sep 6 with 758 views | The_Flashing_Smile |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:36 - Sep 6 by positivity |
odd that your mind should go to a black-led march, when there's more violent and more recent right-wing protests that have happened. |
On reflection I'm retracting my uparrow as while I think Balcombe probably chose his example unwisely, i don't think it's evidence he's racist! |  |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:15 - Sep 6 with 748 views | balcombeblue |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:13 - Sep 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
On reflection I'm retracting my uparrow as while I think Balcombe probably chose his example unwisely, i don't think it's evidence he's racist! |
Is it ok to hold prejudice against a group of people if being from Norfolk was a protected characteristic? | | | |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:19 - Sep 6 with 739 views | positivity |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:13 - Sep 6 by balcombeblue |
You've chosen not to, which is a shame.
As I said yesterday, there were a number of violent clashes during the BLM protests and so I used it as an example to compare to yesterday, where to date this hadn't happened. I am happy to include other examples such as Southport. |
you've chosen not to retract your comparison, which is a bigger shame. it's possible to edit posts, so it doesn't look like you're just condemning progressive or left marches! | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:20 - Sep 6 with 733 views | positivity |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:13 - Sep 6 by The_Flashing_Smile |
On reflection I'm retracting my uparrow as while I think Balcombe probably chose his example unwisely, i don't think it's evidence he's racist! |
i don't think he's racist, think it's more of a case of unconscious bias | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:31 - Sep 6 with 706 views | balcombeblue |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:20 - Sep 6 by positivity |
i don't think he's racist, think it's more of a case of unconscious bias |
ah yes, unconscious bias. There is a huge amount of peer reviewed, publicly available data which picks out its flaws. Not that it gets mentioned very often.
Do you have unconscious bias against people of a certain political view or background? If you believe the literature then the answer is yes, as we all do. But I don't agree with that at all. | | | |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:32 - Sep 6 with 696 views | balcombeblue |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:19 - Sep 6 by positivity |
you've chosen not to retract your comparison, which is a bigger shame. it's possible to edit posts, so it doesn't look like you're just condemning progressive or left marches! |
ok - the anarchists that infiltrated the BLM marches were violent. Is that better? | | | |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:33 - Sep 6 with 693 views | positivity |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:31 - Sep 6 by balcombeblue |
ah yes, unconscious bias. There is a huge amount of peer reviewed, publicly available data which picks out its flaws. Not that it gets mentioned very often.
Do you have unconscious bias against people of a certain political view or background? If you believe the literature then the answer is yes, as we all do. But I don't agree with that at all. |
why don't you agree with the literature? do you have a scientific background? | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:34 - Sep 6 with 672 views | Benters |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 10:44 - Sep 6 by positivity |
it's very simple,
would you rather see a reduction in the number of people that come over, but bigger boats used?
or more people in total in smaller boats?
labour are reducing the total numbers coming over in a way that the tories never have been able to and reform never will.
why does that worry you? |
I’d rather we didn’t have thousands of males coming into the country illegally at all tbh.
Yes I know it’s s much of the last Governments fault as it is Labours.
Why does that worry me ? Why shouldn’t it? |  |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:34 - Sep 6 with 680 views | positivity |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:32 - Sep 6 by balcombeblue |
ok - the anarchists that infiltrated the BLM marches were violent. Is that better? |
be better if you'd condemned violence from similar groups to those which marched through kent towns instead of making the leap to black lives matter.
the edit button is simple to use! | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:35 - Sep 6 with 673 views | RetiredBlue |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 04:28 - Sep 6 by Benters |
I can’t see how anyone can argue with this point the boats are getting bigger!
What are they carrying now 250 something like that,how anyone thinks that letting all these unvetted men into our country is a good idea amazes me tbh.
But there you go a lot of people on here do think it’s a good idea.
So there must be something in it. |
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| If I could have my time again, I would be an assassin / hitman. There are simply some people who should have been strangled at birth. |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:38 - Sep 6 with 664 views | positivity |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:34 - Sep 6 by Benters |
I’d rather we didn’t have thousands of males coming into the country illegally at all tbh.
Yes I know it’s s much of the last Governments fault as it is Labours.
Why does that worry me ? Why shouldn’t it? |
do you have a problem with thousands of males wearing balaclavas walking through dover?
zero asylum seekers is a fantasy that will never be achieved, labour have reduced this through international co-operation.
the international isolationism of reform or the new tories would just mean more small boats. why doesn't that worry you? | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:39 - Sep 6 with 658 views | RetiredBlue |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 08:53 - Sep 6 by Benters |
I wonder if anyone of those that down arrowed me would be so kind to explain to me why it is a good idea ? |
Balls | |
| If I could have my time again, I would be an assassin / hitman. There are simply some people who should have been strangled at birth. |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:40 - Sep 6 with 647 views | Benters |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:38 - Sep 6 by positivity |
do you have a problem with thousands of males wearing balaclavas walking through dover?
zero asylum seekers is a fantasy that will never be achieved, labour have reduced this through international co-operation.
the international isolationism of reform or the new tories would just mean more small boats. why doesn't that worry you? |
It worries me because I don’t think it’s doing our once beautiful country any good. | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:43 - Sep 6 with 651 views | positivity |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:40 - Sep 6 by Benters |
It worries me because I don’t think it’s doing our once beautiful country any good. |
the blackshirted balaclava marchers in dover?
i agree; the sooner they emigrate to their spiritual home in russia the better | |
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| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:50 - Sep 6 with 623 views | FoghornGleghorn |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:40 - Sep 6 by Benters |
It worries me because I don’t think it’s doing our once beautiful country any good. |
How is our country less beautiful than it was? | | | |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:50 - Sep 6 with 623 views | bartyg |
| These balaclava wearing chaps in Dover on 11:34 - Sep 6 by Benters |
I’d rather we didn’t have thousands of males coming into the country illegally at all tbh.
Yes I know it’s s much of the last Governments fault as it is Labours.
Why does that worry me ? Why shouldn’t it? |
There is one easy fix then, we'll make every route legal. |  |
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