| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow 06:30 - Sep 14 with 2217 views | Blue_Heath |
Reserves or 1st team, I know we beat Arsenal at home last time in the cup but this current Arsenal squad is one of the best squads the prem has ever seen.
Their second 11 would probably finish easily in the top 10.
Think I'd keep most of the defence/midfield but change attacking players and keeper. |  |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 06:34 - Sep 14 with 1804 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
Had a think about this and no reason the first team cannot play Tuesday and Saturday barring injuries. I guess GON has to keep the squad happy though and do some rotating.
In some ways both games this week are a free hit.
Personally I would like to see us have a cup run, if we were to beat Arsenal then we would have a good chance to run deep. Why not. |  | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 06:36 - Sep 14 with 1785 views | Blue_Heath |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 06:34 - Sep 14 by WolfieAtTheBack |
Had a think about this and no reason the first team cannot play Tuesday and Saturday barring injuries. I guess GON has to keep the squad happy though and do some rotating.
In some ways both games this week are a free hit.
Personally I would like to see us have a cup run, if we were to beat Arsenal then we would have a good chance to run deep. Why not. |
Can't argue with that and yes I don't see us winning either game but you never know! | |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 06:51 - Sep 14 with 1734 views | WeWereZombies |
Do we know what our first team is yet ? For example, Outarra will probably be a first team player by the end of the season but is still unproven at Premier League level, Fatawu has been starting matches but doesn't seem to be fully integrated into patterns of play yet. We haven't seen enough of Florentino Luis to know what to make of him. Would a run out against Arsenal benefit these players because even if we lose we will knmmow more about their prospects ? |  |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 06:56 - Sep 14 with 1715 views | PioneerBlue |
I imagine big rotation. Is that enough to get a foothold before more familiar starters become finishers? not sure but that is likely to be the case for Arsenal too.
Arsenal will of course be stronger player for player but there is plenty for our players to play for. GON might also decide one or two could go again like Palacios, or bring Jaden or Matusiwa in for a start but most likely use them as finishers and bring back slowly.
Walton
Ouatarra
Kipre
DOS
Furlong
Florentino
Nunez
McAteer
SWE
Maeda
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:06 - Sep 14 with 1670 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 06:34 - Sep 14 by WolfieAtTheBack |
Had a think about this and no reason the first team cannot play Tuesday and Saturday barring injuries. I guess GON has to keep the squad happy though and do some rotating.
In some ways both games this week are a free hit.
Personally I would like to see us have a cup run, if we were to beat Arsenal then we would have a good chance to run deep. Why not. |
Why is Everton a free hit?!
Surely these are the sort of games we are targeting for points? |  |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:09 - Sep 14 with 1670 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:06 - Sep 14 by Wallingford_Boy |
Why is Everton a free hit?!
Surely these are the sort of games we are targeting for points? |
Everton will be a very difficult away game, if we come away with a point then that would be above expectation. A much greater task than Palace IMO. | | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:38 - Sep 14 with 1520 views | _CliveBaker_ |
Heavy rotation I would think. There are 6 or 7 players we need to protect for the league, namely Davis, Palacios, Enciso, Emersonn, Fatawu, Diop. I wouldn’t play any of them tomorrow. Something like:
Walton
Furlong O’Shea Kipre Ouattara
Nunez Florentino
Maeda Egeli Philogene
Akpom
Get some minutes in Matusiwa, Mehmeti & Flemming off the bench. Arsenal will make loads of changes too. |  | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:46 - Sep 14 with 1454 views | MattinLondon |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:09 - Sep 14 by WolfieAtTheBack |
Everton will be a very difficult away game, if we come away with a point then that would be above expectation. A much greater task than Palace IMO. |
Really? |  | | |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:49 - Sep 14 with 1445 views | MK1 |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 06:34 - Sep 14 by WolfieAtTheBack |
Had a think about this and no reason the first team cannot play Tuesday and Saturday barring injuries. I guess GON has to keep the squad happy though and do some rotating.
In some ways both games this week are a free hit.
Personally I would like to see us have a cup run, if we were to beat Arsenal then we would have a good chance to run deep. Why not. |
The league has to be our priority this season. Play a much changed side and protect those that we need most for the league. |  |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:50 - Sep 14 with 1443 views | BloomBlue |
Reserves, match fitness is different to training ground fitness. Staying in the PL is the one and only aim this season, we will probably require the entire squad at some point in a league game, it's unfair on them to come into a PL game having not had any match time. Give the reserves a match, if we lose, we lose, but better we do that in a cup game. |  | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:59 - Sep 14 with 1393 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:46 - Sep 14 by MattinLondon |
Really? |
I think so yes. Everton will be a really tough game away. | | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 08:01 - Sep 14 with 1386 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:49 - Sep 14 by MK1 |
The league has to be our priority this season. Play a much changed side and protect those that we need most for the league. |
I think the key point here is there are no games after these 2 until 10 Oct so plenty of time for extensive recovery. | | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 08:10 - Sep 14 with 1338 views | MK1 |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 08:01 - Sep 14 by WolfieAtTheBack |
I think the key point here is there are no games after these 2 until 10 Oct so plenty of time for extensive recovery. |
Is it another bl00dy international break?
If that's the case, throw the kitchen sink at them both. | |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 08:13 - Sep 14 with 1313 views | GeoffSentence |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:38 - Sep 14 by _CliveBaker_ |
Heavy rotation I would think. There are 6 or 7 players we need to protect for the league, namely Davis, Palacios, Enciso, Emersonn, Fatawu, Diop. I wouldn’t play any of them tomorrow. Something like:
Walton
Furlong O’Shea Kipre Ouattara
Nunez Florentino
Maeda Egeli Philogene
Akpom
Get some minutes in Matusiwa, Mehmeti & Flemming off the bench. Arsenal will make loads of changes too. |
I think it's likely Flemming will start to get those minutes in, assuming Emersonn injury is Ok |  |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 08:28 - Sep 14 with 1255 views | Basuco |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:59 - Sep 14 by WolfieAtTheBack |
I think so yes. Everton will be a really tough game away. |
Agree, a point at Everton will be the most I expect and would be brilliant, David Moyse is a very good manager and while I don't expect Everton to be in the top half of the table at the end of the season, they will not be near the relegation zone this season. |  | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 08:38 - Sep 14 with 1197 views | DropCliffsNotBombs |
Last time we had Colin Healy running the show and making Cesc Fabregas look like Colin Healy |  | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 08:44 - Sep 14 with 1172 views | DanTheMan |
Reserves.
We've got a lot of players who need minutes and players who will need a rest before Everton. |  |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 09:39 - Sep 14 with 1006 views | Garv |
Rotation but I can't help feel if you leave Enciso out you're almost conceding. I don't want to get dumped 4-0 again by them.
Not sure about "one of the best squads the prem has ever seen". I'd almost argue they're bigger than the sum of their parts and their manager is the most important cog. |  |
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 09:45 - Sep 14 with 988 views | WolfieAtTheBack |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 08:10 - Sep 14 by MK1 |
Is it another bl00dy international break?
If that's the case, throw the kitchen sink at them both. |
3 weeks off after Everton. | | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 09:47 - Sep 14 with 974 views | JakeITFC |
Early in the season and with a long international break to come (admittedly one where half of our first XI is now expected to be called up) means we absolutely could go full strength if we wanted to, but I guess you rotate more for squad harmony reasons than for rest at this point of the season.
I'd like to see a bit of a blend which might be:
Walton
Furlong O'Shea Kipre Outtara
Florentino Nunez
Maeda Clarke Philogene
Flemming |  | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 09:56 - Sep 14 with 941 views | jas0999 |
I’d be surprised if he didn’t make wholesale changes. | | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 09:59 - Sep 14 with 918 views | melbs_itfc |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:59 - Sep 14 by WolfieAtTheBack |
I think so yes. Everton will be a really tough game away. |
Every away match at this level is tough. But we drew there 2-2 two years ago with a significantly weaker squad, so I see no reason why we can’t aim to at least match that result this time. | | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 10:07 - Sep 14 with 885 views | StokieBlue |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 07:46 - Sep 14 by MattinLondon |
Really? |
They have started reasonably.
W=1
D=3
L=0
Same points as us but conceded a lot less.
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| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 10:10 - Sep 14 with 870 views | HighgateBlue |
I would accept very heavy rotation (i.e. not taking this competition seriously) if it meant taking the FA Cup more seriously.
We can afford to do the latter, as we have fewer league games than last year, more recovery time between them (the other side of the same coin), and to be honest a bigger realistic squad. And at this stage of the season, there are still players about whom GON needs to learn, and who need to learn about us.
I think in reality it may well be the same team who faced Leicester, save that Philogene probably replaces Clarke, and AN Other replaces Humphreys (Florentino maybe, or in an ideal world, Matusiwa if he's fit enough to start, which may be wishful thinking).
Flemming is fit from his time at Burnley, so I wouldn't be overly itching to start him. He's clearly sharp enough, and he's certainly got his head screwed on.
Ouattara remains an interesting one. On the one hand, this sort of game at the start of the season might be used to see where he fits in. Realistically I doubt he nails down a CM spot this season following Palacios' arrival, he's clearly not going to oust Davis, and given what he cost, there is the suspicion that he might be GON's intended RB. But if we play him at RB in this game, then when does Furlong ever get minutes, and also who plays LB? Maybe GON just sees him as an all round utility option with a good attitude, high ceiling/resale value, and real potential if it all goes wrong and we end up back in the Champ. If that's the case, then maybe Dara is at RB for the duration, Luke Chambers stylee.
I know this is a Cup discussion, but if we're going to play Dara at RB this season, and we stay up, you'd have to think that the defence will be in for a major rebuild in the summer. If Dara struggles at RB, and GON doesn't see Ouattara there, then you can see it being something that's addressed in January. My guess is that that is the position where the transfer business just didn't come off. Which is fair enough. You can't have it all. |  | | |
| Can't decide what's best for tomorrow on 10:14 - Sep 14 with 860 views | Billywitch |
Need to give players mins in their legs really, because at some point they will be called upon.
I'd go
Walton
Furlong DOS Kipre Ouattara
Kasey Luis Nunez JP
Maeda
Akpom/Flemming | | | |
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