| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come 17:13 - Sep 29 with 3127 views | giant_stow |
"The league said the commission had found City used schemes “to artificially inflate the club’s revenues, and reduce its costs, by more than £900m during the affected period, to appear to comply with financial rules”."
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| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 17:22 - Sep 29 with 1808 views | Illinoisblue |
They need to be crushed out of existence. Industrial-scale cheating. |  |
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| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 17:24 - Sep 29 with 1800 views | redrickstuhaart |
| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 17:22 - Sep 29 by Illinoisblue |
They need to be crushed out of existence. Industrial-scale cheating. |
900m is huge. Completely taints every step of their path to the top, and success having got there. |  |
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| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 17:29 - Sep 29 with 1744 views | Illinoisblue |
| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 17:24 - Sep 29 by redrickstuhaart |
900m is huge. Completely taints every step of their path to the top, and success having got there. |
Every goal, tainted. Every win, tainted. Every trophy, tainted. Pep tainted. Cheating bastards, we know what you are. | |
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| Unfortunately.... on 17:33 - Sep 29 with 1735 views | Bloots |
| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 17:29 - Sep 29 by Illinoisblue |
Every goal, tainted. Every win, tainted. Every trophy, tainted. Pep tainted. Cheating bastards, we know what you are. |
....they've pretty much confirmed that they are gonna appeal the verdict, that's before they even get their punishment.
So this is gonna go on for a while longer yet.
Assuming they then get found guilty again, they will get given a punishment, then they will appeal that.
We are in the tunnel, we can see the end of it, but we aren't near it yet. |  |
| Keaton, Kint, McManus, Fenster and Hockney. |
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| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 17:42 - Sep 29 with 1666 views | BelsteadCav |
900m!!!!
They are worse than Lance Armstrong |  |
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| Unfortunately.... on 17:46 - Sep 29 with 1652 views | Illinoisblue |
| Unfortunately.... on 17:33 - Sep 29 by Bloots |
....they've pretty much confirmed that they are gonna appeal the verdict, that's before they even get their punishment.
So this is gonna go on for a while longer yet.
Assuming they then get found guilty again, they will get given a punishment, then they will appeal that.
We are in the tunnel, we can see the end of it, but we aren't near it yet. |
The siege mentality from their players and lawyers will be intense. | |
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| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 17:47 - Sep 29 with 1647 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
This seems on the details so far as being incredibly serious. Not just overspending, but potentially fraudulent accounting practices. I would expect there could be legal ramifications as well as League/regulatory ones. | | | |
| Gonna be sickening.... on 17:54 - Sep 29 with 1592 views | Bloots |
| Unfortunately.... on 17:46 - Sep 29 by Illinoisblue |
The siege mentality from their players and lawyers will be intense. |
....but in a way hilarious if/when they win the league this year.
The Premier League will look ridiculous. | |
| Keaton, Kint, McManus, Fenster and Hockney. |
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| Unfortunately.... on 18:05 - Sep 29 with 1554 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Unfortunately.... on 17:33 - Sep 29 by Bloots |
....they've pretty much confirmed that they are gonna appeal the verdict, that's before they even get their punishment.
So this is gonna go on for a while longer yet.
Assuming they then get found guilty again, they will get given a punishment, then they will appeal that.
We are in the tunnel, we can see the end of it, but we aren't near it yet. |
Complete fooking mess though isn't it. How do you compensate those who have been disadvantaged? Where do you start? How do you quantify it? Do you even bother?
Arsenal have been runner up to City twice in the last 4 years, what's it cost them? First question is probably would City have not won those titles if they didn't cheat? Even that's hard to answer before you then get to what that would've meant for others.
Absolute circus. I hope the Premier League has some backbone and throws the book at them. Expulsion from the league is severe, but there's an argument for it. Money talks though, I dare say they'll land on some soft as shit 30 point deduction that basically costs them 1 season of Champions League money. |  | | |
| Gonna be sickening.... on 18:08 - Sep 29 with 1538 views | Mullet |
| Gonna be sickening.... on 17:54 - Sep 29 by Bloots |
....but in a way hilarious if/when they win the league this year.
The Premier League will look ridiculous. |
That’s why the punishment needs to be now. Get them disrupted so when January comes their players want out. |  |
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| Unfortunately.... on 18:10 - Sep 29 with 1526 views | giant_stow |
| Unfortunately.... on 18:05 - Sep 29 by _CliveBaker_ |
Complete fooking mess though isn't it. How do you compensate those who have been disadvantaged? Where do you start? How do you quantify it? Do you even bother?
Arsenal have been runner up to City twice in the last 4 years, what's it cost them? First question is probably would City have not won those titles if they didn't cheat? Even that's hard to answer before you then get to what that would've meant for others.
Absolute circus. I hope the Premier League has some backbone and throws the book at them. Expulsion from the league is severe, but there's an argument for it. Money talks though, I dare say they'll land on some soft as shit 30 point deduction that basically costs them 1 season of Champions League money. |
Agree right to last bit (not that it matters!) - I think they're cooked personally and the punishment will be harsh (multi years out of the prem). Based on nothing but vibes and opinions I'm reading... | |
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| Unfortunately.... on 18:11 - Sep 29 with 1526 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Unfortunately.... on 18:05 - Sep 29 by _CliveBaker_ |
Complete fooking mess though isn't it. How do you compensate those who have been disadvantaged? Where do you start? How do you quantify it? Do you even bother?
Arsenal have been runner up to City twice in the last 4 years, what's it cost them? First question is probably would City have not won those titles if they didn't cheat? Even that's hard to answer before you then get to what that would've meant for others.
Absolute circus. I hope the Premier League has some backbone and throws the book at them. Expulsion from the league is severe, but there's an argument for it. Money talks though, I dare say they'll land on some soft as shit 30 point deduction that basically costs them 1 season of Champions League money. |
The real issue at the bottom of all this, is the inability or unwillingness of the PL / FA to have been monitoring and checking all this in real time, and dealing early and sharply with breaches. The situation now is impossible to properly address. | |
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| Won't happen though.... on 18:11 - Sep 29 with 1531 views | Bloots |
| Gonna be sickening.... on 18:08 - Sep 29 by Mullet |
That’s why the punishment needs to be now. Get them disrupted so when January comes their players want out. |
....if/when they appeal they'll have to appoint an whole new panel to look at it. It'll be months before they get through it again.
As Illy said they'll adopt the siege mentality and probably end up winning the league this season.
Be really annoying if/when we finish second. | |
| Keaton, Kint, McManus, Fenster and Hockney. |
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| Yeah, it's a minefield.... on 18:15 - Sep 29 with 1508 views | Bloots |
| Unfortunately.... on 18:05 - Sep 29 by _CliveBaker_ |
Complete fooking mess though isn't it. How do you compensate those who have been disadvantaged? Where do you start? How do you quantify it? Do you even bother?
Arsenal have been runner up to City twice in the last 4 years, what's it cost them? First question is probably would City have not won those titles if they didn't cheat? Even that's hard to answer before you then get to what that would've meant for others.
Absolute circus. I hope the Premier League has some backbone and throws the book at them. Expulsion from the league is severe, but there's an argument for it. Money talks though, I dare say they'll land on some soft as shit 30 point deduction that basically costs them 1 season of Champions League money. |
....I don't see a scenario where they stay in the Prem after all this.
But would the EFL want them?
Might open up the "Super League" option again, get a few like minded "Superteams" on board and they can form their own league.
"The Riyadh Season World Superleague" - Exclusively live on Netflix.
....actually, that sounds feasible. | |
| Keaton, Kint, McManus, Fenster and Hockney. |
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| Yeah, it's a minefield.... on 18:18 - Sep 29 with 1485 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Yeah, it's a minefield.... on 18:15 - Sep 29 by Bloots |
....I don't see a scenario where they stay in the Prem after all this.
But would the EFL want them?
Might open up the "Super League" option again, get a few like minded "Superteams" on board and they can form their own league.
"The Riyadh Season World Superleague" - Exclusively live on Netflix.
....actually, that sounds feasible. |
Good riddance, they can fook off.
I do feel sorry for proper City fans in all this though. No doubt they've enjoyed the ride, but they didn't ask for it. | | | |
| Yeah, it's a minefield.... on 18:20 - Sep 29 with 1462 views | Mullet |
| Yeah, it's a minefield.... on 18:15 - Sep 29 by Bloots |
....I don't see a scenario where they stay in the Prem after all this.
But would the EFL want them?
Might open up the "Super League" option again, get a few like minded "Superteams" on board and they can form their own league.
"The Riyadh Season World Superleague" - Exclusively live on Netflix.
....actually, that sounds feasible. |
I also hope it shows people I was right about that bald fraud Pep all along. He needs a lifetime ban for me | |
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| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 18:21 - Sep 29 with 1459 views | LandOfMickyStockwell |
I wonder...
If Man City hadn't paid that amount of wages to the players and managers, would they have still got them for less money, or would they have gone to another Premier League club?
They've broken the rules, but I'm just trying to picture the parallel universe(s) to measure the impact of cheating or loss of advantage by others in sporting terms. |  | | |
| Unfortunately.... on 18:35 - Sep 29 with 1418 views | bartyg |
| Unfortunately.... on 18:11 - Sep 29 by redrickstuhaart |
The real issue at the bottom of all this, is the inability or unwillingness of the PL / FA to have been monitoring and checking all this in real time, and dealing early and sharply with breaches. The situation now is impossible to properly address. |
It was all concealed, from both the PL and also Man City's auditors. I'm not sure what additional measures you think they should have put in place? |  |
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| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 18:38 - Sep 29 with 1387 views | ITFC_Forever |
Pep knew what was coming, that’s why he left when he did.
And they have to have the harshest of punishments or there’s no deterrent to anyone else.
They have to go to the Conference and have all their trophies for the time period in question taken off them and given to the relevant runners up. |  |
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| Unfortunately.... on 18:41 - Sep 29 with 1362 views | StokieBlue |
| Unfortunately.... on 18:05 - Sep 29 by _CliveBaker_ |
Complete fooking mess though isn't it. How do you compensate those who have been disadvantaged? Where do you start? How do you quantify it? Do you even bother?
Arsenal have been runner up to City twice in the last 4 years, what's it cost them? First question is probably would City have not won those titles if they didn't cheat? Even that's hard to answer before you then get to what that would've meant for others.
Absolute circus. I hope the Premier League has some backbone and throws the book at them. Expulsion from the league is severe, but there's an argument for it. Money talks though, I dare say they'll land on some soft as shit 30 point deduction that basically costs them 1 season of Champions League money. |
There is no way that the PL can be that lenient. They have cheated to the level of almost a billion pounds.
In Italy they have the backbone to relegate teams to the bottom division. Don't know if that's possible with the PL/FA structure but it needs to be something like that otherwise where is the deterrent?
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| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 18:44 - Sep 29 with 1337 views | armchaircritic59 |
Considering nearly 20 years ago, Luton Town got docked 30 points for what in the scheme of things were far lesser offences and certainly not 114 of them (!), I think City should be in for a huge punishment, and one that serves as a big warning to everyone else. I just have this fear that the powers that be are going to choke on it and not do what they should do. Hope I'm wrong. |  | | |
| Yeah, it's a minefield.... on 18:46 - Sep 29 with 1319 views | vapour_trail |
| Yeah, it's a minefield.... on 18:18 - Sep 29 by _CliveBaker_ |
Good riddance, they can fook off.
I do feel sorry for proper City fans in all this though. No doubt they've enjoyed the ride, but they didn't ask for it. |
The EFL would take them in a heartbeat. They raise income, profile, eyeballs.
Best case scenario for EFL is to take them into L2 and have at least three seasons revenue from them. All the clubs through those divisions will back that.
I’d have a cheeky couple of quid on Haaland to have a 100 goal season. |  |
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| More details on the Man City guilty verdict about to come on 18:48 - Sep 29 with 1311 views | Perublue |
f they do get hit as hard as most expect they will, I do wonder if they and their fans will suddenly become interested in that super league and the resurrection of it as an idea
Could certainly start a ripple effect which goes God knows where. |  |
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| Unfortunately.... on 18:48 - Sep 29 with 1302 views | BarcaBlue |
| Unfortunately.... on 18:41 - Sep 29 by StokieBlue |
There is no way that the PL can be that lenient. They have cheated to the level of almost a billion pounds.
In Italy they have the backbone to relegate teams to the bottom division. Don't know if that's possible with the PL/FA structure but it needs to be something like that otherwise where is the deterrent?
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The problem of demoting them to the Conference or League one / two / championship is that it would deny a promotion place for rivals in any of those leagues. It would be fairer for example if they were banned from the PL for a period of time having been relegated to the Championship. I very much doubt that will happen but it's important they don't continue to interfere unfairly with other teams they're competing with. |  | | |
| Unfortunately.... on 18:51 - Sep 29 with 1284 views | _CliveBaker_ |
| Unfortunately.... on 18:41 - Sep 29 by StokieBlue |
There is no way that the PL can be that lenient. They have cheated to the level of almost a billion pounds.
In Italy they have the backbone to relegate teams to the bottom division. Don't know if that's possible with the PL/FA structure but it needs to be something like that otherwise where is the deterrent?
SB |
I don't disagree, it would be appropriate, just a case of believing it when I see it I guess. Just think there's so much money involved, so many legal consequences, political too no doubt. I can see this ending up with a really cowardly punishment that they'll try to paint as forceful and fitting the crime.
I hope I'm wrong. | | | |
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