| Expulsion from the PL 18:58 - Oct 1 with 3323 views | ringwoodblue |
I see that if Citeh’s punishment is to be expelled from the PL, at least 15 of the other 19 clubs have to vote in favour of the motion.
Can you honestly see any club apart from Citeh themselves voting against and if so, who? |  |
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| Expulsion from the PL on 12:09 - Oct 2 with 458 views | mellowblue |
| Expulsion from the PL on 23:59 - Oct 1 by Ryorry |
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| Expulsion from the PL on 12:20 - Oct 2 with 426 views | mellowblue |
| Expulsion from the PL on 08:52 - Oct 2 by Steve_M |
Newcastles's owners may also have been distracted by events closer to home since they bought the club. Indeed that goes for all of the sportswashing petrostates in the Middle East to some extent but the the Saudi PIF has been cutting back on spending a lot in the last year. |
In deed, the Newcastle owners are frustrated that they can not buy success Man City style. When the potential for 115 charges broke 3,4 years ago, it must have stopped Newcastle ownership in it's tracks. The Saudis have certainly lost interest in golf now it cannot challenge the traditional competitions for prominence in the game. | | | |
| Expulsion from the PL on 12:22 - Oct 2 with 423 views | southnorfolkblue |
| Expulsion from the PL on 08:10 - Oct 2 by Bellevue_Blue |
I do not understand why all 19 clubs would not vote for this.
If we illegally added £2BN to our accounts over the course of the next 10 years (whatever the £900M adjusted for inflation) which allowed us to knock Man City of their perch, they would be the first to vote for our expulsion. Or a more real example, what if Newcastle did that .. the whole league would be up in arms.
They are the team they are today because they cheated their way to a £1BN advantage over most of the league. The only way to remove that £1BN advantage is to expel them and have the come back in at L2 level IMO.
A one year relegation will allow them to retain the advantage. Sponsors will stay, some great players will stay. Not in L2 they wont. |
I think it depends on how many clubs would be worried as to whether their finances would stand up to serious scrutiny. If expulsion becomes a precedent and a club is worried that they could be next, they’ll vote against it.
Morally I think they should be expelled and hope that clubs see the bigger picture and show some balls on this | |
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| Expulsion from the PL on 12:23 - Oct 2 with 418 views | Pinewoodblue |
You just know Town will pick up points in two weeks time and have them taken away when City are expelled. [Post edited 2 Oct 13:26]
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| Expulsion from the PL on 12:27 - Oct 2 with 412 views | dirtyboy |
| Expulsion from the PL on 12:22 - Oct 2 by southnorfolkblue |
I think it depends on how many clubs would be worried as to whether their finances would stand up to serious scrutiny. If expulsion becomes a precedent and a club is worried that they could be next, they’ll vote against it.
Morally I think they should be expelled and hope that clubs see the bigger picture and show some balls on this |
Whether we like it or not, City are now a global name and they attract tourists from around the world, much like United, Arsenal and Liverpool do.
They attract sponsors, and money and that money filters across the league, the PL did more intra-deals than ever before, keeping cash between them.
Plus, bankrupt them or whatever and there's probably hundreds of millions that won't get paid to other clubs (slight over simplifying, but you know what I mean....you don't want to put a question mark on a debtor by choice). |  | | |
| Expulsion from the PL on 12:30 - Oct 2 with 398 views | football |
And this also has implications for the Championship as it will reduce the spaces from League One teams by one which i can imagine won't go down well | | | |
| Expulsion from the PL on 12:45 - Oct 2 with 360 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Expulsion from the PL on 12:27 - Oct 2 by dirtyboy |
Whether we like it or not, City are now a global name and they attract tourists from around the world, much like United, Arsenal and Liverpool do.
They attract sponsors, and money and that money filters across the league, the PL did more intra-deals than ever before, keeping cash between them.
Plus, bankrupt them or whatever and there's probably hundreds of millions that won't get paid to other clubs (slight over simplifying, but you know what I mean....you don't want to put a question mark on a debtor by choice). |
Of course, the PL loses a degree of interest without them, but let's not act like the PL would struggle to attract business and new business. They have nothing on Chelsea, Liverpool, United and Arsenal in terms of pull.
They are also not going bankrupt. The world's biggest PE firms would be all over this deal if it were ever even close to a sale. | | | |
| Expulsion from the PL on 12:53 - Oct 2 with 351 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Expulsion from the PL on 12:22 - Oct 2 by southnorfolkblue |
I think it depends on how many clubs would be worried as to whether their finances would stand up to serious scrutiny. If expulsion becomes a precedent and a club is worried that they could be next, they’ll vote against it.
Morally I think they should be expelled and hope that clubs see the bigger picture and show some balls on this |
Their finances already do stand up to serious scrutiny. The financial rules and more precisely the fair market value partnership rules in place today have never been stronger; hence, clubs face points deductions for going even a few million over the threshold or are forced to revalue partnerships.
The idea that another club could be operating a similar scandal is fantasy. [Post edited 2 Oct 12:56]
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| Expulsion from the PL on 13:00 - Oct 2 with 335 views | mellowblue |
| Expulsion from the PL on 12:27 - Oct 2 by dirtyboy |
Whether we like it or not, City are now a global name and they attract tourists from around the world, much like United, Arsenal and Liverpool do.
They attract sponsors, and money and that money filters across the league, the PL did more intra-deals than ever before, keeping cash between them.
Plus, bankrupt them or whatever and there's probably hundreds of millions that won't get paid to other clubs (slight over simplifying, but you know what I mean....you don't want to put a question mark on a debtor by choice). |
Adding to this, in a few years time when water is under the bridge, demotions and fines considered to be history, Man City will globally still be considered a giant club (rightly or wrongly). Look how quickly Juventus bounced back from the match-fixing scandal that saw them demoted. | | | |
| Expulsion from the PL on 13:04 - Oct 2 with 324 views | DanTheMan |
| Expulsion from the PL on 08:52 - Oct 2 by Steve_M |
Newcastles's owners may also have been distracted by events closer to home since they bought the club. Indeed that goes for all of the sportswashing petrostates in the Middle East to some extent but the the Saudi PIF has been cutting back on spending a lot in the last year. |
Turns out building a really big line city through a desert is expensive.
And that generally doing every mega project suggested by your dictator may not be good economic policy. |  |
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| Expulsion from the PL on 14:35 - Oct 2 with 234 views | mellowblue |
| Expulsion from the PL on 13:04 - Oct 2 by DanTheMan |
Turns out building a really big line city through a desert is expensive.
And that generally doing every mega project suggested by your dictator may not be good economic policy. |
incredible concept and the figures they were talking about are mind-blowing. Being able to travel in a linear fashion only rather than radiate left right in any direction you fancy, as in traditional cities would be very limiting, maybe mentally not even healthy. | | | |
| Expulsion from the PL on 14:53 - Oct 2 with 215 views | monty_radio |
If it’s a matter of serious rule-breaking the clubs should have no say or justice is not blind. | |
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| Expulsion from the PL on 14:59 - Oct 2 with 209 views | MJallday |
they might have to vote for relegation
but what they dont have to vote on is a 100 point penalty, applied every season for the next 10 years
or a 10 year transfer ban |  |
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| Expulsion from the PL on 19:03 - Oct 2 with 104 views | Churchman |
| Expulsion from the PL on 12:45 - Oct 2 by Bellevue_Blue |
Of course, the PL loses a degree of interest without them, but let's not act like the PL would struggle to attract business and new business. They have nothing on Chelsea, Liverpool, United and Arsenal in terms of pull.
They are also not going bankrupt. The world's biggest PE firms would be all over this deal if it were ever even close to a sale. |
From 1996 to 2002 they were in the Premier League just one season. It’s only the Arab millions that has propelled them to where they are and the PL would thrive with or without them in my view.
But I think they’ll get away with it in real terms. There’s too much riding on them being left alone and that’s before we get to financial ….’incentives’, potential threats and of course the political aspect.
You can bet your back teeth the journos are digging in to this like no tomorrow - and that’ll include no doubt the former Mayor of Manchester and other local politicians. Let’s hope it’s pure bending the rules on MCs part. Regardless I suspect it’s in most people’s interest (sadly) to sweep this under the carpet and maybe go tough on a lesser light like say a Forest or a Fulham. |  | | |
| Expulsion from the PL on 00:12 - Oct 3 with 25 views | Bellevue_Blue |
| Expulsion from the PL on 19:03 - Oct 2 by Churchman |
From 1996 to 2002 they were in the Premier League just one season. It’s only the Arab millions that has propelled them to where they are and the PL would thrive with or without them in my view.
But I think they’ll get away with it in real terms. There’s too much riding on them being left alone and that’s before we get to financial ….’incentives’, potential threats and of course the political aspect.
You can bet your back teeth the journos are digging in to this like no tomorrow - and that’ll include no doubt the former Mayor of Manchester and other local politicians. Let’s hope it’s pure bending the rules on MCs part. Regardless I suspect it’s in most people’s interest (sadly) to sweep this under the carpet and maybe go tough on a lesser light like say a Forest or a Fulham. |
Thankfully I don't think the PL will care about any of it. They could have been like Everton, like Forest etc and cooperated with the PL. They choose destruction, they choose lies, they forced the PL to spend 100M+ on lawyers.
I struggle to believe those involved wont look at the precedent and absolutely throw the book at them. This can't ever happen again because if they got of light, Newcastle and Forest will be right behind them.
Hopefully this saga brings and end to any state owned ownership and we can all put this scandal behind us. | | | |
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