| Question Time 07:40 - Jun 23 with 5202 views | StokieBlue |
I missed this, did anyone see the show?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/23/think-leave-david-dimbleby-ejects-cor
Apparently he kept yelling over people that JC had won the election.
He did well of course but it's all very strange. Was the guy being unreasonable and rowdy? Many people don't seem to be able to accept results nowadays.
I assume he was being silly at Dimbleby is usually pretty calm.
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| Question Time on 07:53 - Jun 23 with 5167 views | GlasgowBlue |
I haven't seen its but he's not alone in his view.
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| Question Time on 08:04 - Jun 23 with 5137 views | WeWereZombies |
| Question Time on 07:53 - Jun 23 by GlasgowBlue |
I haven't seen its but he's not alone in his view.
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I have to say I am surprised at your closing remark there... |  |
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| Question Time on 08:20 - Jun 23 with 5103 views | StokieBlue |
Do you not think the way some people are claiming victory shows a ridiculous sense of entitlement? A view that their opinion is more important than their fellow countrymen and thus correct?
It's just a divisive as many other things.
It's interesting to me as it's something I've never seen before and seems to be a recent phenomenon. Maybe it's something to do with how social media impacts or lives. Would probably make a good sociology paper for someone's masters.
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| Question Time on 08:29 - Jun 23 with 5089 views | WeWereZombies |
| Question Time on 08:20 - Jun 23 by StokieBlue |
Do you not think the way some people are claiming victory shows a ridiculous sense of entitlement? A view that their opinion is more important than their fellow countrymen and thus correct?
It's just a divisive as many other things.
It's interesting to me as it's something I've never seen before and seems to be a recent phenomenon. Maybe it's something to do with how social media impacts or lives. Would probably make a good sociology paper for someone's masters.
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It is a handful of people though, isn't it? Inflated by lazy journalism. I think that this type of behaviour has always been with us but it gets highlighted more now because desperate editors are competing across a wide range of media for attention. | |
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| Question Time on 08:33 - Jun 23 with 5075 views | StokieBlue |
| Question Time on 08:29 - Jun 23 by WeWereZombies |
It is a handful of people though, isn't it? Inflated by lazy journalism. I think that this type of behaviour has always been with us but it gets highlighted more now because desperate editors are competing across a wide range of media for attention. |
It seems like more than a handful but perhaps you are correct that it's more visible given the constant media barrage across multiple platforms and this skews the perception.
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| Question Time on 08:40 - Jun 23 with 5045 views | J2BLUE |
| Question Time on 08:20 - Jun 23 by StokieBlue |
Do you not think the way some people are claiming victory shows a ridiculous sense of entitlement? A view that their opinion is more important than their fellow countrymen and thus correct?
It's just a divisive as many other things.
It's interesting to me as it's something I've never seen before and seems to be a recent phenomenon. Maybe it's something to do with how social media impacts or lives. Would probably make a good sociology paper for someone's masters.
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Agree entirely. I really don't see how they are saying Corbyn should be PM when he can't even command a majority with several other parties. It's the same as Brexit. A minority can't accept the result and want to block it because their view is clearly more important than the majority.
The numbers don't lie, Corbyn didn't win. |  |
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| Question Time on 08:47 - Jun 23 with 5030 views | itfcjoe |
| Question Time on 08:20 - Jun 23 by StokieBlue |
Do you not think the way some people are claiming victory shows a ridiculous sense of entitlement? A view that their opinion is more important than their fellow countrymen and thus correct?
It's just a divisive as many other things.
It's interesting to me as it's something I've never seen before and seems to be a recent phenomenon. Maybe it's something to do with how social media impacts or lives. Would probably make a good sociology paper for someone's masters.
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Social media is very divisive and that boils over into soceity - if you aren't for something then you are against it - no room for middle ground or nuance.
Vote Tory - you are nasty and want big business to receive money and disabled people to die
Vote Labour - You are a communist who wants to live off the state and for every rich person to hand over all their earnings
It's like it across everything in society, even on here - not a rabid Mick Outer, then you are defending him and blind and an idiot who doesn't understand football etc |  |
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| Question Time on 08:51 - Jun 23 with 5019 views | StokieBlue |
| Question Time on 08:47 - Jun 23 by itfcjoe |
Social media is very divisive and that boils over into soceity - if you aren't for something then you are against it - no room for middle ground or nuance.
Vote Tory - you are nasty and want big business to receive money and disabled people to die
Vote Labour - You are a communist who wants to live off the state and for every rich person to hand over all their earnings
It's like it across everything in society, even on here - not a rabid Mick Outer, then you are defending him and blind and an idiot who doesn't understand football etc |
Good post.
As an extension, do you think that customisable news feeds propegate an echo chamber mentality? I would think that people in general are likely to subscribe to feeds they agree with and see only that filtered news rather that going to a source which covers all bases.
It's an interesting subject and applies to supporters of both sides of the relevant subject.
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| Question Time on 09:01 - Jun 23 with 4984 views | Steve_M |
| Question Time on 08:51 - Jun 23 by StokieBlue |
Good post.
As an extension, do you think that customisable news feeds propegate an echo chamber mentality? I would think that people in general are likely to subscribe to feeds they agree with and see only that filtered news rather that going to a source which covers all bases.
It's an interesting subject and applies to supporters of both sides of the relevant subject.
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Yes, I think it does. Group think and the exclusion of all other views is a dangerous mix. We've all seen people desperately promote things they want to be true - either pro-their side or damning the other - without considering the viability of the source.
I've made the case repeatedly but one of the great things about this board, fractious though it can be, is that it isn't an echo chamber of the sort that seems to be dominant on social media. |  |
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| Question Time on 09:04 - Jun 23 with 4966 views | Swansea_Blue |
He's not the PM, obviously, but I see he's nudged ahead ahead of May in popularity for the first time in the latest YouGov poll. Funny old world. |  |
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| Question Time on 09:05 - Jun 23 with 4962 views | WD19 |
| Question Time on 09:01 - Jun 23 by Steve_M |
Yes, I think it does. Group think and the exclusion of all other views is a dangerous mix. We've all seen people desperately promote things they want to be true - either pro-their side or damning the other - without considering the viability of the source.
I've made the case repeatedly but one of the great things about this board, fractious though it can be, is that it isn't an echo chamber of the sort that seems to be dominant on social media. |
Yes, I think it does. Group think and the exclusion of all other views is a dangerous mix. We've all seen people desperately promote things they want to be true - either pro-their side or damning the other - without considering the viability of the source.
I've made the case repeatedly but one of the great things about this board, fractious though it can be, is that it isn't an echo chamber of the sort that seems to be dominant on social media. |  | | |
| Question Time on 09:07 - Jun 23 with 4950 views | GunnsAirkick |
I think anyone that is claiming Labour 'won' needs their heads checking (I believe Corbyn's comments are that Labour were the 'winners' of the Election in terms of the Conservatives having expected to vastly increase their majority and for Labour to lose a lot of seats rather than gaining quite a few). It does seem to be a bit of a sea change though and if things continue the way they are even Corbyn might have a chance against this lot.
As for the guy on QT, what a moron. He seemed like a Momentum agitator to me (there are a couple in my local party but they mostly get ignored, why they think shouting over people works I will never know). |  | | |
| Question Time on 09:07 - Jun 23 with 4945 views | blue_oyster |
Was he 'bringing the rage', perchance? |  |
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| Question Time on 09:13 - Jun 23 with 4928 views | Uncle_Bulgaria |
| Question Time on 08:20 - Jun 23 by StokieBlue |
Do you not think the way some people are claiming victory shows a ridiculous sense of entitlement? A view that their opinion is more important than their fellow countrymen and thus correct?
It's just a divisive as many other things.
It's interesting to me as it's something I've never seen before and seems to be a recent phenomenon. Maybe it's something to do with how social media impacts or lives. Would probably make a good sociology paper for someone's masters.
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Similar to the referendum vote, where large numbers of young voters did not think the retired/elderly should have a vote as "it was not their future under consideration". |  | | |
| Question Time on 09:33 - Jun 23 with 4874 views | itfcjoe |
| Question Time on 08:51 - Jun 23 by StokieBlue |
Good post.
As an extension, do you think that customisable news feeds propegate an echo chamber mentality? I would think that people in general are likely to subscribe to feeds they agree with and see only that filtered news rather that going to a source which covers all bases.
It's an interesting subject and applies to supporters of both sides of the relevant subject.
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Echo Chambers are key, especially on Twitter - people are so shocked to see the Tories 'win' the election because they can't find anyone they follow who would vote for them.
But when no room for argument on certain platforms what do you expect? Least on here, as diametrically opposed as some people tend to be there is room to flesh out arguments - impossible to do that in 140 characters! | |
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| Question Time on 09:36 - Jun 23 with 4849 views | No9 |
I am surprised anybody watches that dross |  | | |
| Question Time on 09:45 - Jun 23 with 4815 views | Guthrum |
| Question Time on 09:33 - Jun 23 by itfcjoe |
Echo Chambers are key, especially on Twitter - people are so shocked to see the Tories 'win' the election because they can't find anyone they follow who would vote for them.
But when no room for argument on certain platforms what do you expect? Least on here, as diametrically opposed as some people tend to be there is room to flesh out arguments - impossible to do that in 140 characters! |
Your second paragraph is bang on.
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| Question Time on 09:53 - Jun 23 with 4805 views | No9 |
| Question Time on 08:51 - Jun 23 by StokieBlue |
Good post.
As an extension, do you think that customisable news feeds propegate an echo chamber mentality? I would think that people in general are likely to subscribe to feeds they agree with and see only that filtered news rather that going to a source which covers all bases.
It's an interesting subject and applies to supporters of both sides of the relevant subject.
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Did't Ted Turner prove that you caould make peole beleive what you want them to believe?
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| Question Time on 10:54 - Jun 23 with 4741 views | Ryorry |
First ever "live eviction" on QT!
DD was impressively authoritative with his 'polite firmness' - "I think you'd better leave" - cue huge applause & some cheers from the audience - having firstly given him his chance to speak properly using the mic, and then asking him politely several times to be quiet. Both audience and panel members were clearly finding him a distraction. He left of his own accord, albeit a BBC heavy in dark suit was already moving towards him! |  |
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| Question Time on 11:05 - Jun 23 with 4707 views | 26_Paz |
| Question Time on 08:47 - Jun 23 by itfcjoe |
Social media is very divisive and that boils over into soceity - if you aren't for something then you are against it - no room for middle ground or nuance.
Vote Tory - you are nasty and want big business to receive money and disabled people to die
Vote Labour - You are a communist who wants to live off the state and for every rich person to hand over all their earnings
It's like it across everything in society, even on here - not a rabid Mick Outer, then you are defending him and blind and an idiot who doesn't understand football etc |
Very good point made here. |  |
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