| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:30 - Feb 17 with 8369 views | sparks |
There can be little doubt that if middle class and middle aged folks stopped taking coke and pot, there would be a consequent significant reduction in the market which is supplied by violent criminal gangs exploiting vulnerable people and children to create their supply lines. |  |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:30 - Feb 17 with 8363 views | chicoazul |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:30 - Feb 17 by sparks |
There can be little doubt that if middle class and middle aged folks stopped taking coke and pot, there would be a consequent significant reduction in the market which is supplied by violent criminal gangs exploiting vulnerable people and children to create their supply lines. |
Yep. |  |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:33 - Feb 17 with 8334 views | BrixtonBlue |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:30 - Feb 17 by sparks |
There can be little doubt that if middle class and middle aged folks stopped taking coke and pot, there would be a consequent significant reduction in the market which is supplied by violent criminal gangs exploiting vulnerable people and children to create their supply lines. |
Seeing as that's not going to happen, you could try legalising in order to stop violent criminal gangs exploiting vulnerable people and children. |  |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:34 - Feb 17 with 8327 views | Darth_Koont |
Criminals operating and thriving in an illegal trade. Well, I never!! |  |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:34 - Feb 17 with 8330 views | chicoazul |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:33 - Feb 17 by BrixtonBlue |
Seeing as that's not going to happen, you could try legalising in order to stop violent criminal gangs exploiting vulnerable people and children. |
It should definitely be Big Pharma exploiting vulnerable people and children instead. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:34 - Feb 17 with 8325 views | J2BLUE |
Let the mental gymnastics begin! |  |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:36 - Feb 17 with 8290 views | Herbivore |
From your article:
"This prompts a perhaps unexpected thought from the retired minister, Roger Whitehead, 78, who runs the centre. He suggests that drugs need to be taken out of the hands of organised crime gangs such as the Geordies. “The only answer is to make it legal and controlled,” he says. “We have to admit that we have lost the war on drugs.”" |  |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:38 - Feb 17 with 8301 views | noggin |
I don't know why you keep repeating this, we all know that the drugs business is controlled by criminal gangs. Are you expecting us to say, "Oooh, I didn't know that, I'll stop with immediate effect."? |  |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:38 - Feb 17 with 8278 views | BackToRussia |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:36 - Feb 17 by Herbivore |
From your article:
"This prompts a perhaps unexpected thought from the retired minister, Roger Whitehead, 78, who runs the centre. He suggests that drugs need to be taken out of the hands of organised crime gangs such as the Geordies. “The only answer is to make it legal and controlled,” he says. “We have to admit that we have lost the war on drugs.”" |
Another win for Mr Brains. |  |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:39 - Feb 17 with 8283 views | chicoazul |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:38 - Feb 17 by noggin |
I don't know why you keep repeating this, we all know that the drugs business is controlled by criminal gangs. Are you expecting us to say, "Oooh, I didn't know that, I'll stop with immediate effect."? |
Expecting no, hoping yes. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:40 - Feb 17 with 8262 views | noggin |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:39 - Feb 17 by chicoazul |
Expecting no, hoping yes. |
Let me tell you... It aint gonna happen. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:41 - Feb 17 with 8258 views | chicoazul |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:40 - Feb 17 by noggin |
Let me tell you... It aint gonna happen. |
Who knows? Societies attitudes change throughout history to a lot of things. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:42 - Feb 17 with 8229 views | Herbivore |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:38 - Feb 17 by noggin |
I don't know why you keep repeating this, we all know that the drugs business is controlled by criminal gangs. Are you expecting us to say, "Oooh, I didn't know that, I'll stop with immediate effect."? |
It also won't touch the issue in any case. These gangs prey on the vulnerable and on problem users. They are operating in deprived areas. They aren't slinging a gram to a banker outside Canary Wharf. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:44 - Feb 17 with 8221 views | Darth_Koont |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:39 - Feb 17 by chicoazul |
Expecting no, hoping yes. |
You are aware that Prohibition effectively built the Mafia in the US?
Not doing drugs is a social/health issue for an end-user and those around them. The criminality needs to be addressed at source. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:45 - Feb 17 with 8202 views | footers |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:42 - Feb 17 by Herbivore |
It also won't touch the issue in any case. These gangs prey on the vulnerable and on problem users. They are operating in deprived areas. They aren't slinging a gram to a banker outside Canary Wharf. |
Indeed. Us City types have our own ethical suppliers. As if I'd be seen getting into the back of an oik's Subaru Impreza. |  |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:46 - Feb 17 with 8199 views | chicoazul |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:44 - Feb 17 by Darth_Koont |
You are aware that Prohibition effectively built the Mafia in the US?
Not doing drugs is a social/health issue for an end-user and those around them. The criminality needs to be addressed at source. |
Prohibition was an attempt to make something legal, illegal. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:47 - Feb 17 with 8173 views | Herbivore |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:45 - Feb 17 by footers |
Indeed. Us City types have our own ethical suppliers. As if I'd be seen getting into the back of an oik's Subaru Impreza. |
I only buy organic and free trade, naturally. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:52 - Feb 17 with 8166 views | Darth_Koont |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:46 - Feb 17 by chicoazul |
Prohibition was an attempt to make something legal, illegal. |
Relevance? It was made illegal and then the criminals thrived.
Your answer to the problem of drug gangs is to put the onus on people who as a group aren't the best at doing things for their own good but now will stop buying drugs for society's good!??
It's not going to happen.
But of course this is probably more about your own rather strange and narrow moral strictness than any practical resolution to the problem. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:53 - Feb 17 with 8162 views | noggin |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:46 - Feb 17 by chicoazul |
Prohibition was an attempt to make something legal, illegal. |
With similar effect to the illegal drugs trade today. People want to get high and if the government won't let them, criminals will. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:57 - Feb 17 with 8125 views | chicoazul |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:52 - Feb 17 by Darth_Koont |
Relevance? It was made illegal and then the criminals thrived.
Your answer to the problem of drug gangs is to put the onus on people who as a group aren't the best at doing things for their own good but now will stop buying drugs for society's good!??
It's not going to happen.
But of course this is probably more about your own rather strange and narrow moral strictness than any practical resolution to the problem. |
Cocaine, MDMA etc are still illegal so I don't see why you would even bring Prohibition up myself. It's a non sequitur.
Many, a great many, of the people funding these gangs are perfectly cogent normal people, not drooling "addicts". If their eyes can be opened to the damage they are doing to our society with their selfish pleasures, maybe they will stop. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:58 - Feb 17 with 8113 views | BrixtonBlue |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:34 - Feb 17 by chicoazul |
It should definitely be Big Pharma exploiting vulnerable people and children instead. |
vs violent drug gangs?! Yes, absolutely! | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:59 - Feb 17 with 8106 views | chicoazul |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:53 - Feb 17 by noggin |
With similar effect to the illegal drugs trade today. People want to get high and if the government won't let them, criminals will. |
Maybe if people are shown what their indulgences are doing to our society they will stop. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 18:00 - Feb 17 with 8096 views | chicoazul |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:58 - Feb 17 by BrixtonBlue |
vs violent drug gangs?! Yes, absolutely! |
I would much rather drugs stay in the hands of tiny numbers of criminals than vast conglomerates with huge advertising budgets, R&D departments, and ruthless CEOs. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 18:00 - Feb 17 with 8083 views | Darth_Koont |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:57 - Feb 17 by chicoazul |
Cocaine, MDMA etc are still illegal so I don't see why you would even bring Prohibition up myself. It's a non sequitur.
Many, a great many, of the people funding these gangs are perfectly cogent normal people, not drooling "addicts". If their eyes can be opened to the damage they are doing to our society with their selfish pleasures, maybe they will stop. |
But THEY aren't doing the damage are they? There is a connection but you and I are just as connected if we can see the damage caused but refuse to be grown-up, responsible and realistic about the solution. | |
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| If you buy illegal drugs on 18:01 - Feb 17 with 8081 views | noggin |
| If you buy illegal drugs on 17:57 - Feb 17 by chicoazul |
Cocaine, MDMA etc are still illegal so I don't see why you would even bring Prohibition up myself. It's a non sequitur.
Many, a great many, of the people funding these gangs are perfectly cogent normal people, not drooling "addicts". If their eyes can be opened to the damage they are doing to our society with their selfish pleasures, maybe they will stop. |
Why aren't you trying to have alcohol made illegal? It is directly responsible for crime and health problems for both user and loved ones. | |
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