| PL’s mistakes this season 15:34 - Mar 8 with 5283 views | ArnieM |
1) not culling the bloated squad ( therefore meaning he was unable to sign anyone else )
2) trying to keep said bloated squad “ happy” by rotating them.
3) postponing games that we should never have postponed - thus losing momentum.
We ALL make mistakes .
Can : will, he “ learn “ from these going forward into the summer and next season .
Does he deserve a stay of execution for the first two months of next season ? |  |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 15:41 - Mar 8 with 4019 views | thebooks |
4) Not instilling an effective style of play in a season and a half — we still plod around with no decisiveness, just as we did when he came here
5) Changing tactics from game to game
6) Making 5/6 changes in consecutive games
7) Instilling a culture of failure (which, to be fair, the fans have largely gone along with)
There are more, but you get the idea.
I like Lambert and would loved it to have worked, but by any measure he has failed and should have been gone a few weeks ago. There’s even an argument that, looking at it coldly, the end of last season would have been right. |  | | |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 16:01 - Mar 8 with 3959 views | BlueBadger |
Given that he should have been sacked in May, no. |  |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 16:07 - Mar 8 with 3948 views | Herbivore |
No, he doesn't deserve to stay on beyond this season. His mistakes are multiple and he's shown no sign of learning from them. He's not a rookie and he's failed multiple times at multiple clubs now. He's done as a manager, he's just no good. |  |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 16:10 - Mar 8 with 3930 views | peterleeblue |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 16:01 - Mar 8 by BlueBadger |
Given that he should have been sacked in May, no. |
Totally agree. Last seasons abject surrender as unacceptable but quite bizarrely accepted by too many. |  | | |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 16:54 - Mar 8 with 3839 views | BlueBadger |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 16:10 - Mar 8 by peterleeblue |
Totally agree. Last seasons abject surrender as unacceptable but quite bizarrely accepted by too many. |
And as if to prove your point, there's my down vote. | |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 16:58 - Mar 8 with 3822 views | itfcjoe |
He hasn’t shown he can set a team up to win games, or made any progress on the pitch.
When all is said and done, those things coupled with terrible results make it a resounding No |  |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:05 - Mar 8 with 3785 views | J2BLUE |
No
Look how important the first two months of the season can be. We have played 36 games. Ten of those were in August and September. Here is the table based on each team's last 26 games:
https://www.twtd.co.uk/league-tables/competition:league-one/form/matches:26/type
Those two months of this season are the only reason we aren't in a relegation battle and instead find ourselves in mid table.
He simply has to go. ASAP when we can sack him for less compensation. |  |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:09 - Mar 8 with 3769 views | ArnieM |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 15:41 - Mar 8 by thebooks |
4) Not instilling an effective style of play in a season and a half — we still plod around with no decisiveness, just as we did when he came here
5) Changing tactics from game to game
6) Making 5/6 changes in consecutive games
7) Instilling a culture of failure (which, to be fair, the fans have largely gone along with)
There are more, but you get the idea.
I like Lambert and would loved it to have worked, but by any measure he has failed and should have been gone a few weeks ago. There’s even an argument that, looking at it coldly, the end of last season would have been right. |
I think it’s be fair to say points 5/6 would fit with “ rotation” of squad ! | |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:10 - Mar 8 with 3758 views | ArnieM |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 16:07 - Mar 8 by Herbivore |
No, he doesn't deserve to stay on beyond this season. His mistakes are multiple and he's shown no sign of learning from them. He's not a rookie and he's failed multiple times at multiple clubs now. He's done as a manager, he's just no good. |
Decent thought through response . Thank you | |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:12 - Mar 8 with 3748 views | HARRY10 |
You can cull a squad if no one else wants them
rotation was nothing to do with keeping players happy - more a case of dropping those no giving maximum effort
as to the guff about failure that only works is you imagine his remit was solely promotion this season
I would suggest some on here take a good read of the link - and maybe stop kidding themselves that we hadn't hit rock bottom and there is no way there is the quick fix so many bleat out for
"The club, for me, was too run down. There was no TLC there. There was nothing there."
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/big-interview-ipswich-town-manager-paul-lambert-rev |  | | |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:14 - Mar 8 with 3740 views | Herbivore |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:12 - Mar 8 by HARRY10 |
You can cull a squad if no one else wants them
rotation was nothing to do with keeping players happy - more a case of dropping those no giving maximum effort
as to the guff about failure that only works is you imagine his remit was solely promotion this season
I would suggest some on here take a good read of the link - and maybe stop kidding themselves that we hadn't hit rock bottom and there is no way there is the quick fix so many bleat out for
"The club, for me, was too run down. There was no TLC there. There was nothing there."
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/big-interview-ipswich-town-manager-paul-lambert-rev |
For all that you continue to back Lambert, I've yet to see you offer any cogent argument for why he should be the man to rebuild things. He's shown nothing. | |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:17 - Mar 8 with 3717 views | thebooks |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:09 - Mar 8 by ArnieM |
I think it’s be fair to say points 5/6 would fit with “ rotation” of squad ! |
Possibly, although I think a lot of the recent rotation has been a pretty desperate attempt to find a winning formula rather than keep a large squad happy.
I just see no sign of improvement in — how long? — 18 months, which is more than enough time to have done something positive. Even when we were top we weren’t playing well.
Actually, that’s not quite true. I’ve probably witnessed about 6 halves’ worth of good football where I could discern a plan/approach. But that’s slim pickings in 18 months. The number of times I’ve seen dull, featureless, losing football — countless. We’ve been way too accepting of it. | | | |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:18 - Mar 8 with 3716 views | itfcjoe |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:12 - Mar 8 by HARRY10 |
You can cull a squad if no one else wants them
rotation was nothing to do with keeping players happy - more a case of dropping those no giving maximum effort
as to the guff about failure that only works is you imagine his remit was solely promotion this season
I would suggest some on here take a good read of the link - and maybe stop kidding themselves that we hadn't hit rock bottom and there is no way there is the quick fix so many bleat out for
"The club, for me, was too run down. There was no TLC there. There was nothing there."
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/big-interview-ipswich-town-manager-paul-lambert-rev |
Please explain what he has done in the pitch to deserve to stay on?
His rotation was nothing to do with effort levels, that was one of the main problems with it | |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:23 - Mar 8 with 3676 views | Mullet |
Not going to Sunderland where they're used to this sh1t. |  |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:24 - Mar 8 with 3671 views | BlueBadger |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:14 - Mar 8 by Herbivore |
For all that you continue to back Lambert, I've yet to see you offer any cogent argument for why he should be the man to rebuild things. He's shown nothing. |
Like Lambert himself, its all smoke and mirrors. If Lambert was genuinely interested in long term rebuilding, he'd have made signings that actually reflected that last January. Instead we got Will Keane(loan), Callum Elder(loan), James Bree(loan), Colin Quaner(loan), Simon Dawkins(free, aged 32), James Collins(free agent, aged 58) and the statless messiah himself, Alan Judge(30). [Post edited 9 Mar 2020 0:33]
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:25 - Mar 8 with 3657 views | Pecker |
Agreeing to stay before the first game. |  | | |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:25 - Mar 8 with 3653 views | thebooks |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:12 - Mar 8 by HARRY10 |
You can cull a squad if no one else wants them
rotation was nothing to do with keeping players happy - more a case of dropping those no giving maximum effort
as to the guff about failure that only works is you imagine his remit was solely promotion this season
I would suggest some on here take a good read of the link - and maybe stop kidding themselves that we hadn't hit rock bottom and there is no way there is the quick fix so many bleat out for
"The club, for me, was too run down. There was no TLC there. There was nothing there."
https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/big-interview-ipswich-town-manager-paul-lambert-rev |
I think you’re plain wrong on most things here — if the players aren’t putting the effort in that’s down to PL, surely? And actually, effort (Fleetwood at home, excepted) largely hasn’t been a problem. Baffling selections, tactics and the lack of a general philosophy, absolutely.
How can the sole aim not be promotion this season? Every season in league one is a disaster.
The one thing he did well was fix the fan/team relationship and point out where the club had been neglected. That’s not really the main bit of his job, though. | | | |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:30 - Mar 8 with 3632 views | HARRY10 |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:18 - Mar 8 by itfcjoe |
Please explain what he has done in the pitch to deserve to stay on?
His rotation was nothing to do with effort levels, that was one of the main problems with it |
That's because you still imagine his job was turning a bunch of failures into promotion winners over night. If other clubs don't want them there is little else that can be done than wait until their contract expires.
And is not so much whether Lambert is the man to sort the club out - it is the blind faith of those on here who are in denial. Their thought is that we just need a magic man and bang all is well again.
Totally ignoring the 15 years of failure, totalling ignoring the sorry state of the club.
My main point is that Evans sees Lambert as the man to sort out the dreadful mess the club has become - and no bedsheets or whinging is likely to change that.
You cann't polish a turd - and we have far, far too many turds masquarading as players.. Watch the goal from yesterday and so much that is wrong with our squad is their to see. | | | |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:32 - Mar 8 with 3618 views | Herbivore |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:30 - Mar 8 by HARRY10 |
That's because you still imagine his job was turning a bunch of failures into promotion winners over night. If other clubs don't want them there is little else that can be done than wait until their contract expires.
And is not so much whether Lambert is the man to sort the club out - it is the blind faith of those on here who are in denial. Their thought is that we just need a magic man and bang all is well again.
Totally ignoring the 15 years of failure, totalling ignoring the sorry state of the club.
My main point is that Evans sees Lambert as the man to sort out the dreadful mess the club has become - and no bedsheets or whinging is likely to change that.
You cann't polish a turd - and we have far, far too many turds masquarading as players.. Watch the goal from yesterday and so much that is wrong with our squad is their to see. |
I do find your tone entertaining. You are so often wrong and yet you're consistently condescending. It's an interesting combo for sure. | |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:32 - Mar 8 with 3616 views | BlueBadger |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:25 - Mar 8 by thebooks |
I think you’re plain wrong on most things here — if the players aren’t putting the effort in that’s down to PL, surely? And actually, effort (Fleetwood at home, excepted) largely hasn’t been a problem. Baffling selections, tactics and the lack of a general philosophy, absolutely.
How can the sole aim not be promotion this season? Every season in league one is a disaster.
The one thing he did well was fix the fan/team relationship and point out where the club had been neglected. That’s not really the main bit of his job, though. |
And frankly, that's not really that hard is it? Even Nasty Man Mick had people saying 'we've got our club back'. Granted, he did it by the slightly more difficult method of actually winning some games, saving us from relegation and moulding us into a coherent side capable of making the top of the Championship rather than uttering some trite cliches in an interview. | |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:34 - Mar 8 with 3606 views | itfcjoe |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:30 - Mar 8 by HARRY10 |
That's because you still imagine his job was turning a bunch of failures into promotion winners over night. If other clubs don't want them there is little else that can be done than wait until their contract expires.
And is not so much whether Lambert is the man to sort the club out - it is the blind faith of those on here who are in denial. Their thought is that we just need a magic man and bang all is well again.
Totally ignoring the 15 years of failure, totalling ignoring the sorry state of the club.
My main point is that Evans sees Lambert as the man to sort out the dreadful mess the club has become - and no bedsheets or whinging is likely to change that.
You cann't polish a turd - and we have far, far too many turds masquarading as players.. Watch the goal from yesterday and so much that is wrong with our squad is their to see. |
Have you watched us this year? Please explain what he has done on the pitch to justify any faith regardless of anything else | |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:37 - Mar 8 with 3580 views | BlueBadger |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:32 - Mar 8 by Herbivore |
I do find your tone entertaining. You are so often wrong and yet you're consistently condescending. It's an interesting combo for sure. |
He's like Bluefish's antimatter double. | |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:40 - Mar 8 with 3559 views | BlueBadger |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:30 - Mar 8 by HARRY10 |
That's because you still imagine his job was turning a bunch of failures into promotion winners over night. If other clubs don't want them there is little else that can be done than wait until their contract expires.
And is not so much whether Lambert is the man to sort the club out - it is the blind faith of those on here who are in denial. Their thought is that we just need a magic man and bang all is well again.
Totally ignoring the 15 years of failure, totalling ignoring the sorry state of the club.
My main point is that Evans sees Lambert as the man to sort out the dreadful mess the club has become - and no bedsheets or whinging is likely to change that.
You cann't polish a turd - and we have far, far too many turds masquarading as players.. Watch the goal from yesterday and so much that is wrong with our squad is their to see. |
Stuart Watson on Marcus Evans by BlueBadger 8 Mar 2020 16:11It wasn't '15 years of mismanagement' that made Lambert constantly rotate the squad, formation and system so players don't have a chance to form partnerships and understandings and cut out the kind of 'after you Claude' goals we saw yesterday, it wasn't '15 years of mismanagement' that failed to coach the players into any kind of coherent unit, it wasn't '15 years of mismanagement' that keeps buying picking and fielding these terrible players, it wasn't '15 years of mismanagement' that failed to coach these players out of making the same kind of stupid errors week in week out, it wasn't '15 years of mismanagement' that has utterly failed to motivate these players despite some nice after-match interviews.
Sure, the lack of investment and attention to detail have seen us in the the third division, but the past 18 months of utterly gutless, directionless on the field management have condemned us to a long stay in it.
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:46 - Mar 8 with 3532 views | Garv |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:24 - Mar 8 by BlueBadger |
Like Lambert himself, its all smoke and mirrors. If Lambert was genuinely interested in long term rebuilding, he'd have made signings that actually reflected that last January. Instead we got Will Keane(loan), Callum Elder(loan), James Bree(loan), Colin Quaner(loan), Simon Dawkins(free, aged 32), James Collins(free agent, aged 58) and the statless messiah himself, Alan Judge(30). [Post edited 9 Mar 2020 0:33]
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Fancy calling someone a 'statless messiah'. You utter gimp.
Did it not occur to you that those signings were made with the intention of retaining Championship status, as unlikely as that seemed, or indeed that money for transfer fees was very little or nothing?
You bleat on about going down without a fight, not making signings to try and stay up would have been just that. |  |
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| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:47 - Mar 8 with 3524 views | thebooks |
| PL’s mistakes this season on 17:32 - Mar 8 by BlueBadger |
And frankly, that's not really that hard is it? Even Nasty Man Mick had people saying 'we've got our club back'. Granted, he did it by the slightly more difficult method of actually winning some games, saving us from relegation and moulding us into a coherent side capable of making the top of the Championship rather than uttering some trite cliches in an interview. |
Well, I will say he did a better job in this respect than Hurst (an eye-wateringly low bar, admittedly). I don’t know — the atmosphere at PR was extraordinary last season, and I think he was largely responsible for fostering that.
Although I also think the fans lost the plot, probably feeling a bit guilty about MM, going gooey over “getting the club back”. Very meek, Town fans, happy with low expectations.
So actually, that’s probably something we didn’t need at the time.
It’s by the by, really. His job is to win football matches and there can’t be many managers out there with a worse record than Lambert. | | | |
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