| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations 21:58 - Sep 7 with 10777 views | tractordownsouth |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:05 - Sep 7 with 4189 views | Darth_Koont |
I think it's time to ignore anything the government says or does about anything.
There's simply no engaging with them - and I include performative rubbish in the HoC too.
Civil disobedience is our civic duty. |  |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:06 - Sep 7 with 4186 views | BlueBadger |
And again, for the people at the back: F*ck this government and f*ck anyone who voted for them. |  |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations (n/t) on 22:09 - Sep 7 with 4165 views | Darth_Koont |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:06 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger |
And again, for the people at the back: F*ck this government and f*ck anyone who voted for them. |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:14 - Sep 7 with 4119 views | 26_Paz |
The Tories have a majority of 80. The bill passed by a majority of 130. Other parties must have also voted against it? |  |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:14 - Sep 7 with 4114 views | pointofblue |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations (n/t) on 22:09 - Sep 7 by Darth_Koont |
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Know this will get blasted but the left needs the centrists in order to gain power. The centrists won't necessarily move so the left needs to sell the argument more effectively than it has up to now. It nearly worked in 2017 but I think that was more down to the dislike of the Conservative manifesto and muddled message in hindsight. |  |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:14 - Sep 7 with 4112 views | Herbivore |
I think I need to read up on how to instigate a revolution. 4 more years of this? Nah bruv. |  |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:16 - Sep 7 with 4101 views | tractordownsouth |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:14 - Sep 7 by 26_Paz |
The Tories have a majority of 80. The bill passed by a majority of 130. Other parties must have also voted against it? |
Most likely lower turnout from the other parties. I imagine the DUP would have voted against it as well.
How do you feel about this bill then Paz? | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:18 - Sep 7 with 4095 views | 26_Paz |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:16 - Sep 7 by tractordownsouth |
Most likely lower turnout from the other parties. I imagine the DUP would have voted against it as well.
How do you feel about this bill then Paz? |
To be honest I don’t know anything about it beyond what’s in your post. Would need to have a google and get a bit more detail on what it contained before commenting. Just saw the numbers and thought it looked odd. | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:21 - Sep 7 with 4075 views | tractordownsouth |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:18 - Sep 7 by 26_Paz |
To be honest I don’t know anything about it beyond what’s in your post. Would need to have a google and get a bit more detail on what it contained before commenting. Just saw the numbers and thought it looked odd. |
It was a vote to implement the findings of the Grenfell inquiry report. That includes stuff like safe cladding for social housing and private rented tower blocks | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:22 - Sep 7 with 4065 views | BlueBadger |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:18 - Sep 7 by 26_Paz |
To be honest I don’t know anything about it beyond what’s in your post. Would need to have a google and get a bit more detail on what it contained before commenting. Just saw the numbers and thought it looked odd. |
It's pretty self-explanatory. It's a bill which would make the recommendations of the first part of the Grenfell enquiry law. Which the lads you voted for and continue to defend voted down.
Still, blue passports and no more foreigners, eh?
https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/insight/insight/grenfell-tower-inquiry-report-th | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:24 - Sep 7 with 4046 views | 26_Paz |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:21 - Sep 7 by tractordownsouth |
It was a vote to implement the findings of the Grenfell inquiry report. That includes stuff like safe cladding for social housing and private rented tower blocks |
On the surface it certainly seems like a strange one. Did they give any explanation as to why they voted against? Was it an issue with the detail of the bill? Timescales? Who was paying? | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:25 - Sep 7 with 4037 views | lowhouseblue |
i'm guessing that since it was the noes that won, it was an amendment to a bill put forward by the opposition that was voted down. the bill itself is the government's response to the fire safety reforms from grenfell, the amendment was an opposition attempt to give it more bite, i guess. whether the amendment was right or not i don't know. |  |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:26 - Sep 7 with 4030 views | BlueBadger |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:25 - Sep 7 by lowhouseblue |
i'm guessing that since it was the noes that won, it was an amendment to a bill put forward by the opposition that was voted down. the bill itself is the government's response to the fire safety reforms from grenfell, the amendment was an opposition attempt to give it more bite, i guess. whether the amendment was right or not i don't know. |
As a general rule, if it's making basic safety provisions in housing law, yes? | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:29 - Sep 7 with 4015 views | BlueBadger |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:24 - Sep 7 by 26_Paz |
On the surface it certainly seems like a strange one. Did they give any explanation as to why they voted against? Was it an issue with the detail of the bill? Timescales? Who was paying? |
I'm guessing it's because they're vile sociopathic c*nts with no interest in anyone who isn't contributing to their(or their mates) pockets. | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:30 - Sep 7 with 4006 views | 26_Paz |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:29 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger |
I'm guessing it's because they're vile sociopathic c*nts with no interest in anyone who isn't contributing to their(or their mates) pockets. |
And there ends what was a reasonable discussion. | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:32 - Sep 7 with 3992 views | lowhouseblue |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:26 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger |
As a general rule, if it's making basic safety provisions in housing law, yes? |
the bill is, yes. but what the amendment was intended to add i don't know.
there is an element here of a tweet about a bill and amendment no one had heard of twenty minutes ago leading to a knee jerk response. no one on the thread, including me, knows the details behind this. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:33 - Sep 7 with 3984 views | Darth_Koont |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:14 - Sep 7 by pointofblue |
Know this will get blasted but the left needs the centrists in order to gain power. The centrists won't necessarily move so the left needs to sell the argument more effectively than it has up to now. It nearly worked in 2017 but I think that was more down to the dislike of the Conservative manifesto and muddled message in hindsight. |
The UK brand of centrists have been a plague on our politics. Just like Farage and his xenophobic loons. Because if you can look at the UK and think a centre-right solution (which is what the UK centre is) will repair actual damage to our economy and society then they're as delusional as Brexiteers.
They just don't understand what's going on because, for the majority of them, they're cocooned in a middle class bubble.
Which means they've been passive, naive and utterly outflanked on every major issue for a decade or more.
Amazingly, the Tories have even used the centre's paucity of ideas and engagement to present themselves as their own radical alternative!
I can't remember who it was that pointed out that the centre (Labour right, LibDems, soft Tories) is the first trench in the defence of the Establishment. But they were bang on.
Apologies for the rant (and definitely not against you) but I get a little triggered by all this. | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:34 - Sep 7 with 3981 views | BlueBadger |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:30 - Sep 7 by 26_Paz |
And there ends what was a reasonable discussion. |
What's unreasonable about pointing out that the government are self-interested, corrupt, sociopathic c*nts?
The evidence has been there for ages now. | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:35 - Sep 7 with 3977 views | 26_Paz |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:32 - Sep 7 by lowhouseblue |
the bill is, yes. but what the amendment was intended to add i don't know.
there is an element here of a tweet about a bill and amendment no one had heard of twenty minutes ago leading to a knee jerk response. no one on the thread, including me, knows the details behind this. |
But it’s an opportunity to drop some c bombs and show how much you hate the tories ... sadly that’s all some on here are interested in (not aimed at the OP) | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:36 - Sep 7 with 3960 views | lowhouseblue |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:33 - Sep 7 by Darth_Koont |
The UK brand of centrists have been a plague on our politics. Just like Farage and his xenophobic loons. Because if you can look at the UK and think a centre-right solution (which is what the UK centre is) will repair actual damage to our economy and society then they're as delusional as Brexiteers.
They just don't understand what's going on because, for the majority of them, they're cocooned in a middle class bubble.
Which means they've been passive, naive and utterly outflanked on every major issue for a decade or more.
Amazingly, the Tories have even used the centre's paucity of ideas and engagement to present themselves as their own radical alternative!
I can't remember who it was that pointed out that the centre (Labour right, LibDems, soft Tories) is the first trench in the defence of the Establishment. But they were bang on.
Apologies for the rant (and definitely not against you) but I get a little triggered by all this. |
you are a one man middle class bubble. obviously i hope that doesn't trigger you. | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:38 - Sep 7 with 3958 views | 26_Paz |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:34 - Sep 7 by BlueBadger |
What's unreasonable about pointing out that the government are self-interested, corrupt, sociopathic c*nts?
The evidence has been there for ages now. |
It’s just all a bit tribal, football support type politics. You’re not interested in talking about the bill at all, you just want to get angry and call people names. | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:38 - Sep 7 with 3951 views | Darth_Koont |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:36 - Sep 7 by lowhouseblue |
you are a one man middle class bubble. obviously i hope that doesn't trigger you. |
You're a pointless bot jizzing over focus group "insights".
I think I'll survive. | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:42 - Sep 7 with 3930 views | lowhouseblue |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:38 - Sep 7 by Darth_Koont |
You're a pointless bot jizzing over focus group "insights".
I think I'll survive. |
no please don't let me stop you, continue telling us about the evils of the middle class. | |
| And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:45 - Sep 7 with 3916 views | Darth_Koont |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:42 - Sep 7 by lowhouseblue |
no please don't let me stop you, continue telling us about the evils of the middle class. |
The UK middle class isn't evil. But it's largely unaffected by the stuff it's ignoring. | |
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| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:46 - Sep 7 with 3909 views | BlueBadger |
| Tories vote against implementing Grenfell inquiry recommendations on 22:38 - Sep 7 by 26_Paz |
It’s just all a bit tribal, football support type politics. You’re not interested in talking about the bill at all, you just want to get angry and call people names. |
No, I'd like them to do their f*cking jobs and look after the interests of the less fortunate and vulnerable rather than just their property owning chums. | |
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