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Jess Phillips MP 09:30 - Mar 14 with 1898 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

A conviction politician...at least you are left in no doubt that she speaks from the heart and means what she says. Wish there were more like her. Very good on Andrew Marr just now.

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:32 - Mar 14 with 1545 viewsJ2BLUE

What does she propose?

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:34 - Mar 14 with 1532 viewstractordownsouth

I quite like her, I think she'd be quite good in a role within the Home Office at some point if Labour ever get into power - she's shadow Domestic Violence Minister at the moment.

I was disappointed with her in the leadership contest though. I was open to voting for her but she was very unprepared for the hustings and looked like she didn't want to be there. In the end I wasn't surprised when she dropped out.

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:36 - Mar 14 with 1524 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 09:32 - Mar 14 by J2BLUE

What does she propose?


That rather than seeing so many traffic wardens ticketing cars it would be nice to see people protecting people's safety...but woman aren't as important as cars!

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:38 - Mar 14 with 1496 viewsArnoldMoorhen

Jess Phillips MP on 09:34 - Mar 14 by tractordownsouth

I quite like her, I think she'd be quite good in a role within the Home Office at some point if Labour ever get into power - she's shadow Domestic Violence Minister at the moment.

I was disappointed with her in the leadership contest though. I was open to voting for her but she was very unprepared for the hustings and looked like she didn't want to be there. In the end I wasn't surprised when she dropped out.


I like Jess, too. She was subject to a huge personal vendetta campaign from the Corbynistas because she had dared speak out against the Dear Leader and knew by then that she couldn't possibly win.

So instead we got Sir Keir. Who is now subject to a huge personal vendetta campaign from the Corbynistas and also looks like he doesn't want to be there. He is always thoroughly prepared, though.
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Jess Phillips MP on 09:39 - Mar 14 with 1489 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 09:34 - Mar 14 by tractordownsouth

I quite like her, I think she'd be quite good in a role within the Home Office at some point if Labour ever get into power - she's shadow Domestic Violence Minister at the moment.

I was disappointed with her in the leadership contest though. I was open to voting for her but she was very unprepared for the hustings and looked like she didn't want to be there. In the end I wasn't surprised when she dropped out.


I would undoubtedly take issue with a lot of what she says but I have no doubt that she is genuine and well intentioned in her motive. (Kind of the antithesis to a Chukka)

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:40 - Mar 14 with 1474 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 09:38 - Mar 14 by ArnoldMoorhen

I like Jess, too. She was subject to a huge personal vendetta campaign from the Corbynistas because she had dared speak out against the Dear Leader and knew by then that she couldn't possibly win.

So instead we got Sir Keir. Who is now subject to a huge personal vendetta campaign from the Corbynistas and also looks like he doesn't want to be there. He is always thoroughly prepared, though.


Yup but he wouldn't know a conviction if he tripped over one.

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:43 - Mar 14 with 1433 viewslowhouseblue

Jess Phillips MP on 09:40 - Mar 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

Yup but he wouldn't know a conviction if he tripped over one.


what a thing to say about a former dpp

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:43 - Mar 14 with 1434 viewsBlueRaider

Jess Phillips MP on 09:36 - Mar 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

That rather than seeing so many traffic wardens ticketing cars it would be nice to see people protecting people's safety...but woman aren't as important as cars!


Its long been the same, look at the sentences people get for financial fraud compared to assault, rape, abuse etc. Money is seen as more important than people to the justice system

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:45 - Mar 14 with 1416 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 09:43 - Mar 14 by lowhouseblue

what a thing to say about a former dpp


...are they really going to abstain on this police powers bill tomorrow?
Edit...he doth blow in the wind like a great big blowy thing!
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Jess Phillips MP on 09:48 - Mar 14 with 1386 viewsGlasgowBlue

Jess Phillips MP on 09:36 - Mar 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

That rather than seeing so many traffic wardens ticketing cars it would be nice to see people protecting people's safety...but woman aren't as important as cars!


That’s the first time I’ve ever seen you call for a bigger police presence on our streets.

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:50 - Mar 14 with 1380 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 09:43 - Mar 14 by BlueRaider

Its long been the same, look at the sentences people get for financial fraud compared to assault, rape, abuse etc. Money is seen as more important than people to the justice system


Well someone has to protect all the wealth that has been stolen from us!

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:50 - Mar 14 with 1369 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 09:48 - Mar 14 by GlasgowBlue

That’s the first time I’ve ever seen you call for a bigger police presence on our streets.


Who said it should be the police? Try taking your blinkers off now and again.
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Jess Phillips MP on 09:52 - Mar 14 with 1357 viewsJ2BLUE

Jess Phillips MP on 09:50 - Mar 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

Who said it should be the police? Try taking your blinkers off now and again.
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Who would you suggest?

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:57 - Mar 14 with 1342 viewsGlasgowBlue

Jess Phillips MP on 09:50 - Mar 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

Who said it should be the police? Try taking your blinkers off now and again.
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“ That rather than seeing so many traffic wardens ticketing cars it would be nice to see people protecting people's safetY”

Who are these people then? Vigilante groups? Private security? Your Jess Phillips quote suggests she wants the police to prioritise keeping people safe over ticketing illegally parked motorists?

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Jess Phillips MP on 09:59 - Mar 14 with 1335 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 09:52 - Mar 14 by J2BLUE

Who would you suggest?


Community organised groups paid for out of taxes.
Think traffic wardens but looking out for people.
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Jess Phillips MP on 10:01 - Mar 14 with 1320 viewsGlasgowBlue

Jess Phillips MP on 09:59 - Mar 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

Community organised groups paid for out of taxes.
Think traffic wardens but looking out for people.
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What powers would you give them? Who would they take their lead from? Would you give them powers of arrest? Could they legally use force or restrain suspects?

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Jess Phillips MP on 10:02 - Mar 14 with 1307 viewsJ2BLUE

Jess Phillips MP on 09:59 - Mar 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

Community organised groups paid for out of taxes.
Think traffic wardens but looking out for people.
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Would they be effective?

Open to the idea but not sure how seriously they would be taken.

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Jess Phillips MP on 10:04 - Mar 14 with 1291 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 10:02 - Mar 14 by J2BLUE

Would they be effective?

Open to the idea but not sure how seriously they would be taken.


Organised by the community for the community...@narcho syndicalism in action.

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Jess Phillips MP on 10:05 - Mar 14 with 1287 viewsJ2BLUE

Jess Phillips MP on 10:01 - Mar 14 by GlasgowBlue

What powers would you give them? Who would they take their lead from? Would you give them powers of arrest? Could they legally use force or restrain suspects?


This is the problem. If not, they are useless. If so, they are basically a competing police force.

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Jess Phillips MP on 10:05 - Mar 14 with 1285 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 10:01 - Mar 14 by GlasgowBlue

What powers would you give them? Who would they take their lead from? Would you give them powers of arrest? Could they legally use force or restrain suspects?


....so, anyway, not the police!

Edit...once you form your local syndicalist group you can start thrashing out the answers to your questions.
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Jess Phillips MP on 10:09 - Mar 14 with 1246 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 10:05 - Mar 14 by J2BLUE

This is the problem. If not, they are useless. If so, they are basically a competing police force.


This is the real beauty of it...they can help protect some communities from police over reach too!

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Jess Phillips MP on 10:12 - Mar 14 with 1225 viewsGuthrum

Jess Phillips MP on 10:05 - Mar 14 by BanksterDebtSlave

....so, anyway, not the police!

Edit...once you form your local syndicalist group you can start thrashing out the answers to your questions.
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Problem is, even if it is a syndicalist militia patrolling the streets, they still need the same framework, guidance and supervision as that outlined. If you take the example of the Spanish Republic, things were actually very tightly organised, albeit on a local level.

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Jess Phillips MP on 10:13 - Mar 14 with 1215 viewsfooters

Jess Phillips MP on 09:38 - Mar 14 by ArnoldMoorhen

I like Jess, too. She was subject to a huge personal vendetta campaign from the Corbynistas because she had dared speak out against the Dear Leader and knew by then that she couldn't possibly win.

So instead we got Sir Keir. Who is now subject to a huge personal vendetta campaign from the Corbynistas and also looks like he doesn't want to be there. He is always thoroughly prepared, though.


I would say the Starmer negativity comes from him being completely useless, tbh.

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Jess Phillips MP on 10:15 - Mar 14 with 1207 viewsDarth_Koont

Leadership bid?

Personally, I fear she’s as equally lacking in policies – and populist centrism doesn’t fill me with any confidence at all.

There needs to be a compelling vision of what the UK could become as a country and what needs to change to get there. Tweaking around social issues is on the surface better than nothing but If it obscures the greater injustices and imbalances then it’s possibly doing even more harm than good.

It would be like making our response to climate change about using fewer plastic bags and buying organic avocados.

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Jess Phillips MP on 10:21 - Mar 14 with 1193 viewsBanksterDebtSlave

Jess Phillips MP on 10:12 - Mar 14 by Guthrum

Problem is, even if it is a syndicalist militia patrolling the streets, they still need the same framework, guidance and supervision as that outlined. If you take the example of the Spanish Republic, things were actually very tightly organised, albeit on a local level.


...yep....on a local, fully accountable locally, level.

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