| Biden 20:17 - Feb 24 with 1415 views | LeoMuff |
Why on earth are personal sanctions on Putin only “on the table” surely we are past that point now ?
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| Biden on 20:35 - Feb 24 with 1344 views | Swansea_Blue |
He’s a very naughty boy, that’s why.
We seem impotent don’t we? NATO/Western leaders are obviously all crapping themselves and reluctant to be the first to commit to anything vaguely aggressive. Presumably nukes has a lot to do with it. As an aside, that makes a mockery of those who say NATO expansionism is the cause (but then so do many other things about this crisis, so such people are best ignored).
What’s China’s take on all this as well? Does that come into the thinking? I’ve no idea and haven’t seen them mentioned once. |  |
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| Biden on 20:37 - Feb 24 with 1327 views | Samuelowen88 |
| Biden on 20:35 - Feb 24 by Swansea_Blue |
He’s a very naughty boy, that’s why.
We seem impotent don’t we? NATO/Western leaders are obviously all crapping themselves and reluctant to be the first to commit to anything vaguely aggressive. Presumably nukes has a lot to do with it. As an aside, that makes a mockery of those who say NATO expansionism is the cause (but then so do many other things about this crisis, so such people are best ignored).
What’s China’s take on all this as well? Does that come into the thinking? I’ve no idea and haven’t seen them mentioned once. |
Not an invasion apparently
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| Biden on 20:43 - Feb 24 with 1303 views | Churchman |
Somebody probably had to explain to poor old Biden what NATO was, who Putin is, what Ukraine used to be and at what time he will be able to have his boiled egg and soldiers. |  | | |
| Biden on 22:29 - Feb 24 with 1157 views | reusersfreekicks |
| Biden on 20:43 - Feb 24 by Churchman |
Somebody probably had to explain to poor old Biden what NATO was, who Putin is, what Ukraine used to be and at what time he will be able to have his boiled egg and soldiers. |
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| Biden on 22:38 - Feb 24 with 1126 views | noggin |
Britain has put a limit on how much Russians can deposit in to British banks. Why only a limit?
*I don't pretend to understand global banking. |  |
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| Biden on 22:47 - Feb 24 with 1087 views | SonOfSpock |
| Biden on 20:35 - Feb 24 by Swansea_Blue |
He’s a very naughty boy, that’s why.
We seem impotent don’t we? NATO/Western leaders are obviously all crapping themselves and reluctant to be the first to commit to anything vaguely aggressive. Presumably nukes has a lot to do with it. As an aside, that makes a mockery of those who say NATO expansionism is the cause (but then so do many other things about this crisis, so such people are best ignored).
What’s China’s take on all this as well? Does that come into the thinking? I’ve no idea and haven’t seen them mentioned once. |
China are probably thinking that its an ideal time to take Taiwan which is the ccp end game.
Countries such as Germany and Italy are highly dependent on Russian energy imports and darent do anything too aggressive. China also know that they have a willing partner in Russia.
Ultimately, the risk is pushing Russia closer to China.. |  | | |
| Biden on 23:05 - Feb 24 with 1009 views | factual_blue |
| Biden on 20:43 - Feb 24 by Churchman |
Somebody probably had to explain to poor old Biden what NATO was, who Putin is, what Ukraine used to be and at what time he will be able to have his boiled egg and soldiers. |
No. It isn't trump who is the president these days. |  |
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| Biden on 23:30 - Feb 24 with 958 views | Churchman |
| Biden on 23:05 - Feb 24 by factual_blue |
No. It isn't trump who is the president these days. |
Agreed, he’s not mad like the Trumpmeister thank goodness. God knows what he’d have done - shudder. But as the most important leader in the free world, my opinion is Biden is disappointing, weak and not ‘on it’. I tend to compare him with Obama, Bush senior and Clinton and I just don’t see it.
He’s not alone. The world is not exactly crammed with statesmen, and don’t start me on BJ.
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| Biden on 00:03 - Feb 25 with 924 views | BlueBadger |
| Biden on 20:43 - Feb 24 by Churchman |
Somebody probably had to explain to poor old Biden what NATO was, who Putin is, what Ukraine used to be and at what time he will be able to have his boiled egg and soldiers. |
Fair play to Putin, he's inspired out some highly imaginative 'yes but Labour' posting this past 24 hours. [Post edited 25 Feb 2022 0:05]
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| Biden on 01:07 - Feb 25 with 864 views | Ryorry |
| Biden on 23:30 - Feb 24 by Churchman |
Agreed, he’s not mad like the Trumpmeister thank goodness. God knows what he’d have done - shudder. But as the most important leader in the free world, my opinion is Biden is disappointing, weak and not ‘on it’. I tend to compare him with Obama, Bush senior and Clinton and I just don’t see it.
He’s not alone. The world is not exactly crammed with statesmen, and don’t start me on BJ.
Just a view. |
Baffled how you could have arrived at this view of Biden tbh, and your previous one above also seemed no more than feeble stereotyping uncharacteristic for you.
I thought it was a good speech, even if he didn't pen it himself. [Post edited 25 Feb 2022 1:11]
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| Biden on 01:09 - Feb 25 with 860 views | pointofblue |
| Biden on 01:07 - Feb 25 by Ryorry |
Baffled how you could have arrived at this view of Biden tbh, and your previous one above also seemed no more than feeble stereotyping uncharacteristic for you.
I thought it was a good speech, even if he didn't pen it himself. [Post edited 25 Feb 2022 1:11]
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The problem is Putin is taking advantage of Biden’s weakness. If Trump was in the White House I doubt Putin would have invaded Ukraine as the orange one is as deranged as he is, and Putin wouldn’t be sure if America’s response would be to launch a nuclear missile at Moscow. MAD is only useful of both sides feel the other may go that far. |  |
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| Biden on 01:14 - Feb 25 with 851 views | Ryorry |
| Biden on 01:09 - Feb 25 by pointofblue |
The problem is Putin is taking advantage of Biden’s weakness. If Trump was in the White House I doubt Putin would have invaded Ukraine as the orange one is as deranged as he is, and Putin wouldn’t be sure if America’s response would be to launch a nuclear missile at Moscow. MAD is only useful of both sides feel the other may go that far. |
I don't see Biden as weak, and never mind Putin fearing Trump, all sane people feared Trump! Having two madmen at the helm of their respective super-powers isn't exactly preferable as a receipe for security, safety & stability! | |
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| Biden on 01:29 - Feb 25 with 833 views | BlueBadger |
| Biden on 01:09 - Feb 25 by pointofblue |
The problem is Putin is taking advantage of Biden’s weakness. If Trump was in the White House I doubt Putin would have invaded Ukraine as the orange one is as deranged as he is, and Putin wouldn’t be sure if America’s response would be to launch a nuclear missile at Moscow. MAD is only useful of both sides feel the other may go that far. |
Trump is literally praising Putin FOR invading the Ukraine right now.
The far-right governments both here and in the US are, in part WHY, Putin is sitting in the Ukraine, right now. They've been cosying up to him and having their tummies ticked by him for that past 5 years at least(in Trump's case) and even longer(in the case of the Tories over here) to the point that they've been ignoring his imperialist activities at best and actively encouraging them at worst.
This isn't even an original 'yes but Labour' any more. [Post edited 25 Feb 2022 1:33]
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| Biden on 01:36 - Feb 25 with 803 views | Ryorry |
| Biden on 01:29 - Feb 25 by BlueBadger |
Trump is literally praising Putin FOR invading the Ukraine right now.
The far-right governments both here and in the US are, in part WHY, Putin is sitting in the Ukraine, right now. They've been cosying up to him and having their tummies ticked by him for that past 5 years at least(in Trump's case) and even longer(in the case of the Tories over here) to the point that they've been ignoring his imperialist activities at best and actively encouraging them at worst.
This isn't even an original 'yes but Labour' any more. [Post edited 25 Feb 2022 1:33]
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Had forgotten - saw that earlier - unbelievable Geoff (except sadly, it is).
(Edit, after seeing your edit - your first para, I mean). [Post edited 25 Feb 2022 1:38]
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| Biden on 01:41 - Feb 25 with 790 views | pointofblue |
| Biden on 01:29 - Feb 25 by BlueBadger |
Trump is literally praising Putin FOR invading the Ukraine right now.
The far-right governments both here and in the US are, in part WHY, Putin is sitting in the Ukraine, right now. They've been cosying up to him and having their tummies ticked by him for that past 5 years at least(in Trump's case) and even longer(in the case of the Tories over here) to the point that they've been ignoring his imperialist activities at best and actively encouraging them at worst.
This isn't even an original 'yes but Labour' any more. [Post edited 25 Feb 2022 1:33]
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Trump was praising Putin for his strategy, not necessarily invading Ukraine itself. Though Trump is all about Trump so guess he would have seen the invasion through the prism of his standing in the world. | |
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| Biden on 01:45 - Feb 25 with 785 views | BlueBadger |
| Biden on 01:41 - Feb 25 by pointofblue |
Trump was praising Putin for his strategy, not necessarily invading Ukraine itself. Though Trump is all about Trump so guess he would have seen the invasion through the prism of his standing in the world. |
The far right(Trump and mainstream political figures over here included)who've been w@nking themselves DRY over Putin being a 'strongman' for most of the last decade are all falling over themselves to tell us that they one he was a wrong 'un all along and they were just praising him and taking his money to keep him occupied(Farage and Bank in particular have been been embarrassing).
Blaming the people brought in to clean up the mess created by the far right over the past decade is tragic, mate. [Post edited 25 Feb 2022 1:47]
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| Biden on 07:39 - Feb 25 with 629 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Biden on 00:03 - Feb 25 by BlueBadger |
Fair play to Putin, he's inspired out some highly imaginative 'yes but Labour' posting this past 24 hours. [Post edited 25 Feb 2022 0:05]
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I’ve found the best ‘but Labour’ yet.
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