| Liz Truss as PM 08:15 - Aug 12 with 3246 views | Dubtractor |
The more I see clips and quotes from her at the hustings events, the more depressed i get about what's going to happen to this country in the hopefully short time she is PM.
I tend to not get too excited by anything political, I can do very little about it in the grand scheme of things and it isn't worth the stress, but I am actually concerned right now.
Oh well, at least it is nearly the weekend. Uppa town etc. |  |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 08:22 - Aug 12 with 1984 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
It's amazing isn't it that they would vote for her. I'm no fan of Sunak, but what planet are these people on to select her over him?
Uppa Town etc....#pray4anegativetest |  |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 08:30 - Aug 12 with 1954 views | DanTheMan |
Liz Truss said she wanted to see more fracking where supported by local communities, and labelled solar panels on agricultural land "depressing"
Off her rocker. I've already read she thinks that you can beat climate change without impacting people. People just pretending it's not coming, meanwhile we're having our second heatwave of the year.
Even by our own conservative assessment this is going to start costing £20billion per year by 2050. [Post edited 12 Aug 2022 8:33]
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| Liz Truss as PM on 08:32 - Aug 12 with 1941 views | Dubtractor |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:30 - Aug 12 by DanTheMan |
Liz Truss said she wanted to see more fracking where supported by local communities, and labelled solar panels on agricultural land "depressing"
Off her rocker. I've already read she thinks that you can beat climate change without impacting people. People just pretending it's not coming, meanwhile we're having our second heatwave of the year.
Even by our own conservative assessment this is going to start costing £20billion per year by 2050. [Post edited 12 Aug 2022 8:33]
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Yep. Some of the environmental stuff in particular genuinely bothers me. | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 08:35 - Aug 12 with 1931 views | Guthrum |
Our only hope is that she's playing up to the most extreme elements of the Conservative Party membership in order to win this vote, then will be more pragmatic once in office.
There's no guarantee of that, however. She will face a lot of rage from the constituencies (and their frightened MPs) if she betrays her current hard line too blatantly. |  |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 08:38 - Aug 12 with 1914 views | Guthrum |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:30 - Aug 12 by DanTheMan |
Liz Truss said she wanted to see more fracking where supported by local communities, and labelled solar panels on agricultural land "depressing"
Off her rocker. I've already read she thinks that you can beat climate change without impacting people. People just pretending it's not coming, meanwhile we're having our second heatwave of the year.
Even by our own conservative assessment this is going to start costing £20billion per year by 2050. [Post edited 12 Aug 2022 8:33]
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But if the planet's getting warmer, there'll be no winter heating crisis, amirite? Another thing the Government doesn't have to do anything about! | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 08:42 - Aug 12 with 1906 views | Meadowlark |
You have to look at the positives
At least many of the halfwits who voted for this shower of privileged imbeciles and their lies are now beginning to see what their real agenda was all along and that they have no consideration for the country, or its people or the environment.
They are only interested in making lots of money for themselves and their rich associates.
But good job we didn't get Corbyn, eh? |  | | |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:43 - Aug 12 with 1897 views | DanTheMan |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:38 - Aug 12 by Guthrum |
But if the planet's getting warmer, there'll be no winter heating crisis, amirite? Another thing the Government doesn't have to do anything about! |
It pains me that people probably think like that.
I'm glad I'm going to be dead by the time things get really rough. | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 08:50 - Aug 12 with 1875 views | Guthrum |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:42 - Aug 12 by Meadowlark |
You have to look at the positives
At least many of the halfwits who voted for this shower of privileged imbeciles and their lies are now beginning to see what their real agenda was all along and that they have no consideration for the country, or its people or the environment.
They are only interested in making lots of money for themselves and their rich associates.
But good job we didn't get Corbyn, eh? |
However, a lot of people in this country still believe themselves to be on the benefit side of that equation, despite declining services, the rocketing cost of living and governmental sleaze. Simply because of the promise (so far unfulfilled) that less money will be taken out of their pay-packet at source and despite the fact that what's left doesn't go as far. | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 08:57 - Aug 12 with 1834 views | mrshallisfit |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:22 - Aug 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
It's amazing isn't it that they would vote for her. I'm no fan of Sunak, but what planet are these people on to select her over him?
Uppa Town etc....#pray4anegativetest |
Where do you think all UKIP have gone? |  | | |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:01 - Aug 12 with 1821 views | Darth_Koont |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:42 - Aug 12 by Meadowlark |
You have to look at the positives
At least many of the halfwits who voted for this shower of privileged imbeciles and their lies are now beginning to see what their real agenda was all along and that they have no consideration for the country, or its people or the environment.
They are only interested in making lots of money for themselves and their rich associates.
But good job we didn't get Corbyn, eh? |
Tory/establishment politics in a nutshell.
If you look at the current major parties as two competing organisations filled with grifters and careerists pushing their own/their donors' self-interest and looking to get paid, then it's a lot clearer to understand our politics and where we are as a country.
These clowns aren't even pretending to be democratic representatives and public servants any more. |  |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:01 - Aug 12 with 1823 views | ZXBlue |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:30 - Aug 12 by DanTheMan |
Liz Truss said she wanted to see more fracking where supported by local communities, and labelled solar panels on agricultural land "depressing"
Off her rocker. I've already read she thinks that you can beat climate change without impacting people. People just pretending it's not coming, meanwhile we're having our second heatwave of the year.
Even by our own conservative assessment this is going to start costing £20billion per year by 2050. [Post edited 12 Aug 2022 8:33]
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The mere fact that her solution to current issues is to get rid of the green levy, in themidst of a near unprecedented spell of hot dry weather, is extraordinary. | | | |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:02 - Aug 12 with 1817 views | Bobbychase |
The "I don't want to see solar panels I want to see crops" is off-the-charts dim.
If she took a drive around the English countryside at the moment, pick any county below the Lake District, she would see failing crops parched by the sun and desperate for rain, and that's in the fields that aren't on fire.
All caused by climate change, because as a species we haven't acted quickly enough to move from coal and oil to things like renewable energy - part of which is solar.
The alternative is that she's not dim, but is deliberately ignoring an environmental crisis that is playing out in real time, right now, to get the votes of elderly Tory voters who won't be around to see the hellscape they have left their great-grandchildren.
Which is actually far worse than being dim. |  |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:03 - Aug 12 with 1810 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:22 - Aug 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
It's amazing isn't it that they would vote for her. I'm no fan of Sunak, but what planet are these people on to select her over him?
Uppa Town etc....#pray4anegativetest |
She's the ghost of Maggie Thatcher, manifested by Liz Truss.
Of course they are going to vote for her. |  |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:06 - Aug 12 with 1792 views | ZXBlue |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:03 - Aug 12 by Cheltenham_Blue |
She's the ghost of Maggie Thatcher, manifested by Liz Truss.
Of course they are going to vote for her. |
That is unfair to Thatcher, who was largely rational rather than nuts and evil. | | | |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:08 - Aug 12 with 1778 views | DanTheMan |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:01 - Aug 12 by ZXBlue |
The mere fact that her solution to current issues is to get rid of the green levy, in themidst of a near unprecedented spell of hot dry weather, is extraordinary. |
It's mental, I think the green levy on average is about £13 per month of the bill.
Given how much they are going up, that's not going to make anywhere near enough of a difference. It's just pandering to the quite frankly evil "Net Zero scrutiny" group. | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:08 - Aug 12 with 1770 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:06 - Aug 12 by ZXBlue |
That is unfair to Thatcher, who was largely rational rather than nuts and evil. |
Theres no such thing as 'unfair to Thatcher' | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:14 - Aug 12 with 1757 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
I just can’t fathom the member’s enthusiasm for her?
It can’t be her ideology- she doesn’t have one of her own. She’s a spineless “yes” candidate who’ll enact their whims. But ultimately, how do they conceive her to be electable - surely they have one eye on the next GE? Not that the others were remotely inspiring but she’s surely the bottom of the barrel.
I guess on the plus side at least we’ll only have one joke candidate in 2024. | | | |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:22 - Aug 12 with 1711 views | Darth_Koont |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:14 - Aug 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I just can’t fathom the member’s enthusiasm for her?
It can’t be her ideology- she doesn’t have one of her own. She’s a spineless “yes” candidate who’ll enact their whims. But ultimately, how do they conceive her to be electable - surely they have one eye on the next GE? Not that the others were remotely inspiring but she’s surely the bottom of the barrel.
I guess on the plus side at least we’ll only have one joke candidate in 2024. |
Gmpf. | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:27 - Aug 12 with 1689 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
You say that but I think he illustrates your Starmer point quite well there!! | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:28 - Aug 12 with 1679 views | Darth_Koont |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:27 - Aug 12 by BanksterDebtSlave |
You say that but I think he illustrates your Starmer point quite well there!! |
Indeed. I think the irony is lost on him though. | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:29 - Aug 12 with 1678 views | NthQldITFC |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:50 - Aug 12 by Guthrum |
However, a lot of people in this country still believe themselves to be on the benefit side of that equation, despite declining services, the rocketing cost of living and governmental sleaze. Simply because of the promise (so far unfulfilled) that less money will be taken out of their pay-packet at source and despite the fact that what's left doesn't go as far. |
When they realise that they've been had I think we're in for a seriously unstable and anarchic period. For a start it should destroy the Tory party quite quickly. Then, optimistically, it could instigate a moral and systematic reset so long as democracy and law and order can hang together for long enough. We desperately need a selfless, inspirational (and necessarily charismatic) left or centre-left leader to help us through that. But whether anything like that can happen unilaterally in one country is very questionable.
Coming as it does with the catastrophic ramifications of AGW apparently really starting to bite and many other countries facing similar or worse situations, there's never been a more challenging period for humanity than right now. It's all our own fault, and we all need to take an equal share of responsibility for it no matter how good or bad we feel we've been in the past. We need to stop blaming everybody else and just get on and try to fix our country and the world.
Any decent scientist will tell you they don't deal in proof or certainty. They deal in probabilities. This leaves us always with a possibility that a situation can be rescued no matter how grim it looks. For that reason we need to keep trying and be honest with ourselves and others and to put aside cynicism in the hope that we can rebuild our social system AND save our planet. |  |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:29 - Aug 12 with 1672 views | LegendofthePhoenix |
Short term, catastrophe, but looking ahead to the next GE, the havoc her and her bunch of self-serving sycophants do in 18 months will devastate not only the country but the Tory party. Sunak at least can see as far as the next election which Truss clearly can't. Sweeping and long lasting political change at the next GE. |  |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:31 - Aug 12 with 1659 views | SuperKieranMcKenna |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:28 - Aug 12 by Darth_Koont |
Indeed. I think the irony is lost on him though. |
I’m trying very hard not to say it…😃 | | | |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:33 - Aug 12 with 1634 views | Darth_Koont |
| Liz Truss as PM on 09:31 - Aug 12 by SuperKieranMcKenna |
I’m trying very hard not to say it…😃 |
Say it. Won't be the first or last time you've got yourself in a bit of a muddle. | |
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| Liz Truss as PM on 09:35 - Aug 12 with 1602 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Liz Truss as PM on 08:35 - Aug 12 by Guthrum |
Our only hope is that she's playing up to the most extreme elements of the Conservative Party membership in order to win this vote, then will be more pragmatic once in office.
There's no guarantee of that, however. She will face a lot of rage from the constituencies (and their frightened MPs) if she betrays her current hard line too blatantly. |
The two leadership candidates dreadful. The Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition seem to have gone missing. Gordon Brown seems to be filling the ideas vacuum.
We could do a lot worse than get Blair, Brown, Major, Ken Clarke and other grown up politicians to get together and sort this mess out. |  |
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