| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD 23:05 - Sep 3 with 2190 views | quirkie |
Jeez, that has to be the worse VAR decision so far.
Utter farce. |  |
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| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:12 - Sep 3 with 2141 views | Bent_double |
scrap it. honestly can't see the benefit of VAR |  |
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| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:14 - Sep 3 with 2131 views | tractordownsouth |
It's bad, yet it's somehow not even the worst VAR decision of the day.
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| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:18 - Sep 3 with 2104 views | Plums |
Ridiculous. Goal should have stood and the keeper booked for unsporting behaviour. |  |
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| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:26 - Sep 3 with 2088 views | Ftnfwest |
Barmy, but isn’t it the referee that disallowed it? |  | | |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:37 - Sep 3 with 2040 views | mrfixit426 |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:12 - Sep 3 by Bent_double |
scrap it. honestly can't see the benefit of VAR |
VAR isn't the problem. It's the cretins running it in this country. It worked fine in the 2018 World Cup and the Euros in 2021. |  | | |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 00:52 - Sep 4 with 1948 views | Illinoisblue |
An absolute obscenity of a decision. Caught prem highlights in a bar earlier… looked like VAR was on steroids today, every game seemed to hand something controversial under review. The disallowed Everton goal was a shocker too |  |
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| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 01:06 - Sep 4 with 1920 views | Bury_St_Edmundson |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:37 - Sep 3 by mrfixit426 |
VAR isn't the problem. It's the cretins running it in this country. It worked fine in the 2018 World Cup and the Euros in 2021. |
100% this
VAR as a tool is amazing, for some reason, our FA seems to want to try to swim uphill in treacle using it, rather than just adopt the FIFA/UEFA version (that seems to work so well in comparison) |  | | |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 01:45 - Sep 4 with 1890 views | Garv |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:14 - Sep 3 by tractordownsouth |
It's bad, yet it's somehow not even the worst VAR decision of the day.
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The Newcastle one isn't that bad.
If you want to argue there is a push on Willock(?) and that's what takes him into the keeper, then fine, but ordinarily you wouldn't see a free kick for that especially in a crowded penalty area.
If we're accepting that as the usual hustle and bustle of a corner or free kick, then it's a foul on the keeper. The guy is running in at speed, completely misses his header and clatters into the keeper.
If it had stood I wouldn't have had a problem, because I can see the argument that Willock himself was nudged, but equally I can easily see why they disallowed it. It's never going to be an exact science, and that's VAR's issue - it gives the impression everything will be right, which will never ever be possible. |  |
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| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 03:44 - Sep 4 with 1820 views | BlueBadger |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 00:52 - Sep 4 by Illinoisblue |
An absolute obscenity of a decision. Caught prem highlights in a bar earlier… looked like VAR was on steroids today, every game seemed to hand something controversial under review. The disallowed Everton goal was a shocker too |
But on the other hand, it's happened to West Ham, so actually...quite funny. [Post edited 4 Sep 2022 3:44]
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| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 07:07 - Sep 4 with 1652 views | tractorboy1978 |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:37 - Sep 3 by mrfixit426 |
VAR isn't the problem. It's the cretins running it in this country. It worked fine in the 2018 World Cup and the Euros in 2021. |
The standard of officiating is so dire across the board in this country. It should be really worrying to your average fan that some of these decisions are being made even with the benefit of watching the incidents back multiple times from different angles. |  | | |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 07:53 - Sep 4 with 1566 views | iamatractorboy |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 07:07 - Sep 4 by tractorboy1978 |
The standard of officiating is so dire across the board in this country. It should be really worrying to your average fan that some of these decisions are being made even with the benefit of watching the incidents back multiple times from different angles. |
If we consider the reason why the officiating standards are so poor, we might conclude it's because no one wants to become a ref in the first place due to the relentless abuse and scrutiny. Who fancies putting themselves out there each week to have tens of thousands of angry fans screaming at their every decision? I know I don't. | | | |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 08:09 - Sep 4 with 1498 views | Ftnfwest |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 07:07 - Sep 4 by tractorboy1978 |
The standard of officiating is so dire across the board in this country. It should be really worrying to your average fan that some of these decisions are being made even with the benefit of watching the incidents back multiple times from different angles. |
If anything when it came in I thought that at least it would pick up on those diving and punish them. It seems to do the opposite with multiple checks for penalties determined on whether someone is touched or not. This incident is pretty bizarre when both players are looking to con the ref but the VAR ref can’t seem to see that, so I’d agree with others, play on, goal. | | | |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 08:26 - Sep 4 with 1447 views | NthQldITFC |
Just watched it. It's clear simulation by the keeper, BUT the striker did deliberately leave his foot in, although all he did is stroke the keeper's arm with it. Should have been a common sense decision to allow the goal to stand, but you can see why the ref gave the decision he did in a way.
Trying to apply precision technology to a subjective field (i.e. everything apart from balls crossing lines, or offsides perhaps) was logically always going to fail. Stupid people who don't understand this are in charge of the business of football though.
It reminds me of a scene in Breaking Bad that always really pisses me off. In a flashback Walt and Gretchen are listing the chemical composition of a human body: "Hydrogen 63%, Oxygen 26%, Carbon 9%..." then we get to 2 decimal places for "Nitrogen 1.25%", and 5dp for "Iron 0.00004%" etc. Then super brain Walt 'adds it all up' and says "that's 99.888042%, we're short by 0.111958%", as if that level of precision can be applied when the first few components were only quoted to 0dp - or are we supposed to believe that Hydrogen is exactly 63.000000%? It's just stupid dressed up as clever for the stupid.
VAR kind of tries to apply a precision to something that it doesn't make sense to do so with, just because half-witted officials, media people and technology businesses think it looks cool or something.
Strange rant, sorry!    |  |
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| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 08:39 - Sep 4 with 1381 views | azuremerlangus |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 08:26 - Sep 4 by NthQldITFC |
Just watched it. It's clear simulation by the keeper, BUT the striker did deliberately leave his foot in, although all he did is stroke the keeper's arm with it. Should have been a common sense decision to allow the goal to stand, but you can see why the ref gave the decision he did in a way.
Trying to apply precision technology to a subjective field (i.e. everything apart from balls crossing lines, or offsides perhaps) was logically always going to fail. Stupid people who don't understand this are in charge of the business of football though.
It reminds me of a scene in Breaking Bad that always really pisses me off. In a flashback Walt and Gretchen are listing the chemical composition of a human body: "Hydrogen 63%, Oxygen 26%, Carbon 9%..." then we get to 2 decimal places for "Nitrogen 1.25%", and 5dp for "Iron 0.00004%" etc. Then super brain Walt 'adds it all up' and says "that's 99.888042%, we're short by 0.111958%", as if that level of precision can be applied when the first few components were only quoted to 0dp - or are we supposed to believe that Hydrogen is exactly 63.000000%? It's just stupid dressed up as clever for the stupid.
VAR kind of tries to apply a precision to something that it doesn't make sense to do so with, just because half-witted officials, media people and technology businesses think it looks cool or something.
Strange rant, sorry! |
“It's just stupid dressed up as clever for the stupid”
I’ll be using that line in future! |  |
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| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 09:11 - Sep 4 with 1323 views | Wickets |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 23:26 - Sep 3 by Ftnfwest |
Barmy, but isn’t it the referee that disallowed it? |
Gave the goal VAR sent him to the screen he buckled ! |  | | |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 09:19 - Sep 4 with 1307 views | Plums |
| Just seen that 2nd West Ham goal VAR'd off on MoTD on 07:07 - Sep 4 by tractorboy1978 |
The standard of officiating is so dire across the board in this country. It should be really worrying to your average fan that some of these decisions are being made even with the benefit of watching the incidents back multiple times from different angles. |
Get your whistle and cards and do a course, the country is desperate for refs. | |
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