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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman 14:57 - Nov 23 with 4350 viewsElderGrizzly

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:02 - Nov 23 with 2907 viewsBlueNomad

Almost outPateling Patel!
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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:03 - Nov 23 with 2900 viewsArnoldMoorhen

A masterclass in simple, patient demonstration of facts.

No, not by Suella.
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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:13 - Nov 23 with 2870 viewscbower

Almost begging those either side of her to step in and rescue her! A nasty piece of work who clearly doesn't know her stuff well enough to defend her own policies. Let's not forget, Home Secretary is a top government post. Is this the best we have to offer ffs?

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:29 - Nov 23 with 2812 viewsElderGrizzly

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:03 - Nov 23 by ArnoldMoorhen

A masterclass in simple, patient demonstration of facts.

No, not by Suella.


And it was a Tory MP setting her up to fail too.
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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:34 - Nov 23 with 2791 viewsArnoldMoorhen

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:29 - Nov 23 by ElderGrizzly

And it was a Tory MP setting her up to fail too.


I have to confess that I don't recognise him, but, whoever he is, he did a very good job of holding the Executive to account there. Now we just need some Tory MPs to vote accordingly on related matters.
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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:45 - Nov 23 with 2730 viewsSwansea_Blue

I'd always assumed they know but just don't care. But there's a few moments there where she looks utterly clueless. Could all be part of the act though, flicking papers and calling in other just to buy a bit of time.

She must know though, shirley? That there are no safe and legal routes other than for the few countries we have specific schemes for is on page 1 of UK Immigration for Dummies.

Well done to Tim Loughton for showing the type of clear questioning that's sadly lacking in politics and the media in general.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:48 - Nov 23 with 2704 viewsjeera

Goes well with a Brexit secretary who didn't understand the significance of the Dover-Calais crossing.

A Transport Secretary who gave ferrying contracts to a firm with no ferries.

A Culture/Media Secretary who didn't know Ch.4 wasn't licence payer funded.

Just a few examples that spring to mind.

It's almost as though BJ surrounded himself with people who don't know what they're doing.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:59 - Nov 23 with 2650 viewsSwansea_Blue

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:34 - Nov 23 by ArnoldMoorhen

I have to confess that I don't recognise him, but, whoever he is, he did a very good job of holding the Executive to account there. Now we just need some Tory MPs to vote accordingly on related matters.


Tim Loughton from somewhere darn sowf (Worthing).

he was good there, but I think he was lying. He doesn't look like a 16 year old and he's been in parliament since 97 so I doubt he's fleeing religious persecution from East Africa. Tutt, typical Tory!

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:06 - Nov 23 with 2619 viewsjeera

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:59 - Nov 23 by Swansea_Blue

Tim Loughton from somewhere darn sowf (Worthing).

he was good there, but I think he was lying. He doesn't look like a 16 year old and he's been in parliament since 97 so I doubt he's fleeing religious persecution from East Africa. Tutt, typical Tory!


Very patient wasn't he, and explained his scenario twice, even though the first attempt was perfectly articulate.

I think you're giving too much credit to her by suggesting she might actually know the answer. She looked uncomfortable being asked 'things' and didn't even seem to understand there might need to be reasons for doing stuff other than for just wanting to realise her own personal freakish dreams.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:20 - Nov 23 with 2568 viewsGlasgowBlue

I don't have sound at the moment but I assume it's this admission?


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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:22 - Nov 23 with 2579 viewsgiant_stow

A brutal yet polite takedown.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:26 - Nov 23 with 2552 viewsnoggin

Yeah but Corbyn...

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:26 - Nov 23 with 2549 viewsDanTheMan

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:20 - Nov 23 by GlasgowBlue

I don't have sound at the moment but I assume it's this admission?



Yup, just dances around the question and basically said "they'd have to come to the country" which is... well exactly what they are doing.

One of the people with her says they could contact the UNHCR but caveats with that obviously is not always possible.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:26 - Nov 23 with 2547 viewsSwansea_Blue

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:06 - Nov 23 by jeera

Very patient wasn't he, and explained his scenario twice, even though the first attempt was perfectly articulate.

I think you're giving too much credit to her by suggesting she might actually know the answer. She looked uncomfortable being asked 'things' and didn't even seem to understand there might need to be reasons for doing stuff other than for just wanting to realise her own personal freakish dreams.


When you see the rest of the car crash of the session with her, then yes I was giving her fat too much credit. She’s nowhere near on top of her brief. I’d be surprised she even knows where her office is.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:26 - Nov 23 with 2547 viewsArnoldMoorhen

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 15:48 - Nov 23 by jeera

Goes well with a Brexit secretary who didn't understand the significance of the Dover-Calais crossing.

A Transport Secretary who gave ferrying contracts to a firm with no ferries.

A Culture/Media Secretary who didn't know Ch.4 wasn't licence payer funded.

Just a few examples that spring to mind.

It's almost as though BJ surrounded himself with people who don't know what they're doing.


Don't ever forget the wonderful Karen Bradley, who was made Secretary of State for Northern Ireland during a very tense time (collapse of Power Sharing Executive, no way forward on Brexit re Border Checks) and on her very first day in the job, said, out loud, "I didn't know that Catholics don't vote for the DUP and Protestants don't vote for Sinn Fein!"

Braverman was also the Attorney General for a Government which proposed breaking International Law as policy.
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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:42 - Nov 23 with 2511 viewsfactual_blue

She should be addressed by her actual forename, which is Sue-Ellen.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:45 - Nov 23 with 2494 viewsElderGrizzly

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:26 - Nov 23 by Swansea_Blue

When you see the rest of the car crash of the session with her, then yes I was giving her fat too much credit. She’s nowhere near on top of her brief. I’d be surprised she even knows where her office is.


And lets not kid ourselves or anyone, she is in that post to placate the ERG to allow Sunak to be PM.

She was incompetent and woefully underqualified as Attorney General, yet here she is as the 3rd most powerful post in Government.
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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:56 - Nov 23 with 2454 viewsArnoldMoorhen

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:26 - Nov 23 by Swansea_Blue

When you see the rest of the car crash of the session with her, then yes I was giving her fat too much credit. She’s nowhere near on top of her brief. I’d be surprised she even knows where her office is.


Especially as there was a really easy answer which would have played to her base very well indeed:

"An East African country? I would encourage them to take the safest route to Rwanda, where our good friends would be able to support them while they needed asylum. If there were a humanitarian crisis in an East African country then we would work with the DEC to support an emergency response in neighbouring countries, and would prioritise aid budgets to ease some of the burden on our partners such as Rwanda."
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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:56 - Nov 23 with 2457 viewssolemio

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:26 - Nov 23 by noggin

Yeah but Corbyn...


I think this may have outlived its usefulness - if it ever had any - and certainly its youthfulness.
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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:58 - Nov 23 with 2447 viewsgiant_stow

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:56 - Nov 23 by solemio

I think this may have outlived its usefulness - if it ever had any - and certainly its youthfulness.


Ye, a bit dull but also, its always presented as argument killer, when in fact, it's just the start of another argument.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 17:02 - Nov 23 with 2423 viewsSpruceMoose

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:58 - Nov 23 by giant_stow

Ye, a bit dull but also, its always presented as argument killer, when in fact, it's just the start of another argument.


People never like being reminded of their mistakes I suppose.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 17:04 - Nov 23 with 2409 viewsnoggin

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 16:56 - Nov 23 by solemio

I think this may have outlived its usefulness - if it ever had any - and certainly its youthfulness.


Yeah I suppose so. A bit like reminding little Englanders of the damage brexit has caused. They don't care.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 17:07 - Nov 23 with 2375 viewsgiant_stow

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 17:02 - Nov 23 by SpruceMoose

People never like being reminded of their mistakes I suppose.


Indeed but was the mistake Labour sticking with an obvious liability in Corbyn or the public not voting for him?

...on it goes...

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 17:08 - Nov 23 with 2364 viewsnoggin

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 17:07 - Nov 23 by giant_stow

Indeed but was the mistake Labour sticking with an obvious liability in Corbyn or the public not voting for him?

...on it goes...

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Liability? Only in simple minds.

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The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 17:09 - Nov 23 with 2353 viewsgiant_stow

The evil incompetence of Suella Braverman on 17:08 - Nov 23 by noggin

Liability? Only in simple minds.


Only in electoral reality born out by results mr, but I really am off now.

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