| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? 10:27 - Mar 7 with 3258 views | itfcjoe |
The passion he has for the game, and that energy - his celebration for the second goal looked massively intense and that was just for a 'pre assist', and then following it up with the fist pump at the end to take on the baton from Chambers (who I likened his spirit and seeming on pitch infectiousness to when he signed).
We really need to go up this season so we can get to where these players like Clarke, Davis, Woolfenden, etc are heading with or without us
His interview in programme was great, as a local boy myself you just can't beat having a proper Ipswich/Suffolk boy in the team |  |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 10:30 - Mar 7 with 3193 views | TRUE_BLUE123 |
Seems a great lad. Really articulate as well enjoyed the interviews I've seen from him. That relationship with Wes is crucial and seems to be improving, albeit against very very poor defensive teams.
However, someone has to be boring. Full time fist pumps, not for me. |  |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 10:39 - Mar 7 with 3127 views | wrightsrightglove |
He’s settled in so quickly, can’t even begin to imagine where he’ll be after a year of McK’s coaching. His reaction to the Burgess tackle was amazing as well, almost celebrated it as much as a goal at the other end! |  | | |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 10:49 - Mar 7 with 3053 views | BigCommon |
Definitely bought some energy to that position... JD's been great, but getting up and down the pitch, the way he did, for the last year or more was starting to take it's toll, imo...
Plus, the long throw, and the ability and confidence to take the odd long range shot, are also, a couple of good additions to our armoury...Not to mention, he's a local lad.... A very good signing. Brings enthusiasm, energy and a positive attitude.
And tbf on JD, hes still a very solid player that we can rely on if we need to. |  | | |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 10:52 - Mar 7 with 3031 views | PrideOfTheEast |
Looks a bl00dy good player. So exciting to have him and Davis in those positions. | | | |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:00 - Mar 7 with 2981 views | chicoazul |
2 proper Ipswich Suffolk boys! |  |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:10 - Mar 7 with 2917 views | clive_baker |
Good player, I hope supporters remember how inexperienced he is and support him. I'm sure they will, but similarly to Davis on the other side they'll get things wrong and have off days, they're raw but I really believe they both have a high ceiling. Neither should be playing in L1 for too much longer. Physically they have incredible attributes, great runners and with the technical ability on the ball to cause a lot of problems.
Personally I don't put Woolfenden quite in that bracket. I like him, certainly a starter for us at this level and great to see local lads wearing the badge. |  |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:18 - Mar 7 with 2846 views | itfcjoe |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:10 - Mar 7 by clive_baker |
Good player, I hope supporters remember how inexperienced he is and support him. I'm sure they will, but similarly to Davis on the other side they'll get things wrong and have off days, they're raw but I really believe they both have a high ceiling. Neither should be playing in L1 for too much longer. Physically they have incredible attributes, great runners and with the technical ability on the ball to cause a lot of problems.
Personally I don't put Woolfenden quite in that bracket. I like him, certainly a starter for us at this level and great to see local lads wearing the badge. |
I think Davis and Clarke are future PL players, whereas would put Woolf as a top end Champ player - and there is a huge difference between top end Champ and establishing self in PL as a player. | |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:22 - Mar 7 with 2811 views | clive_baker |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:18 - Mar 7 by itfcjoe |
I think Davis and Clarke are future PL players, whereas would put Woolf as a top end Champ player - and there is a huge difference between top end Champ and establishing self in PL as a player. |
I would be surprised if at least 1 of Clarke or Davis doesn't go on to make a decent chunk of appearances in the PL. I mean, hopefully for us, but failing that they both have the potential to be playing at that level for someone over the next few years. | |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:27 - Mar 7 with 2778 views | soupytwist |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:18 - Mar 7 by itfcjoe |
I think Davis and Clarke are future PL players, whereas would put Woolf as a top end Champ player - and there is a huge difference between top end Champ and establishing self in PL as a player. |
Do you think the difference between those two and Woolfenden is partly/wholly explained by the quality of the academies they've come through?
Leeds was only granted category one status in 2020 but I assume that Arsenal's always has been.
Clarke will make an interesting case study given the path he's taken and now being back where he started, would he be in the first team at this point had he stayed?
And yes, you have got to love him. |  | | |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:28 - Mar 7 with 2759 views | jp_itfc |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:22 - Mar 7 by clive_baker |
I would be surprised if at least 1 of Clarke or Davis doesn't go on to make a decent chunk of appearances in the PL. I mean, hopefully for us, but failing that they both have the potential to be playing at that level for someone over the next few years. |
Hopefully young Humphreys also! He has come on leaps and bounds and seems to have the mentality to go the top. Seems so well grounded, everybody who has worked with him seems to speak very highly of him. [Post edited 7 Mar 2023 11:28]
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:46 - Mar 7 with 2608 views | unstableblue |
What excites me about Clarke is I think there is so much more room for improvement, so much room for him to be a better and stronger player. And yet even now he's involved in that wonderful move for the second goal, with two moments of sheer quality. A goal that makes you want to rush back to Portman Road.
He is still making numerous errors in a game in distribution, and also sometimes getting caught out of position. Once these are ironed out, which comes from experience and match time, and given his physical attributes - he's going to be a class act.
The same goes for Davis, Humphreys and Wolfenden... these are players who have great individual technical ability, and are able to be effective in McKenna's technical set-ups... they all strike the ball very cleanly for one. Davis is really stroking the ball around - see recent banger against the post.
They remind me of Cresswell and Mings in terms of level.
I wondered if Clarke had gone a bit early on the Chambo fist pump... but pleased to see how well its been received.
Its a project Joe - and Clarke is the upgrade on the already strong Donacien that we needed. Broadhead just gives greater consistency on the already good Harness, so we upgrade, and of course Luongo is the player we have needed all season... the missing link.
But you need a Donacien, a Leigh, a Harness, a Humphreys* in the wings.. you need that quality when the obvious knocks come in
*Camara will provide that other upgrade to our midfield
Lets smash Accrington early, put the pressure on the Plymouth fans and players.
COYB [Post edited 7 Mar 2023 12:19]
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:50 - Mar 7 with 2588 views | RobTheMonk |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:46 - Mar 7 by unstableblue |
What excites me about Clarke is I think there is so much more room for improvement, so much room for him to be a better and stronger player. And yet even now he's involved in that wonderful move for the second goal, with two moments of sheer quality. A goal that makes you want to rush back to Portman Road.
He is still making numerous errors in a game in distribution, and also sometimes getting caught out of position. Once these are ironed out, which comes from experience and match time, and given his physical attributes - he's going to be a class act.
The same goes for Davis, Humphreys and Wolfenden... these are players who have great individual technical ability, and are able to be effective in McKenna's technical set-ups... they all strike the ball very cleanly for one. Davis is really stroking the ball around - see recent banger against the post.
They remind me of Cresswell and Mings in terms of level.
I wondered if Clarke had gone a bit early on the Chambo fist pump... but pleased to see how well its been received.
Its a project Joe - and Clarke is the upgrade on the already strong Donacien that we needed. Broadhead just gives greater consistency on the already good Harness, so we upgrade, and of course Luongo is the player we have needed all season... the missing link.
But you need a Donacien, a Leigh, a Harness, a Humphreys* in the wings.. you need that quality when the obvious knocks come in
*Camara will provide that other upgrade to our midfield
Lets smash Accrington early, put the pressure on the Plymouth fans and players.
COYB [Post edited 7 Mar 2023 12:19]
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The potential is huge. Agree with the distribution being a little off at times, but then there's times when he plays a perfectly weighted ball down the line for Burns to chase. There's more risk in his play vs Donacien who is a safe pair of hands at this level.
He reminds me of a young Micah Richards at the moment. |  | | |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:58 - Mar 7 with 2515 views | Garv |
Was he one that lived in Chambo's shed for a while? |  |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 14:49 - Mar 7 with 2175 views | solemio |
Yes, all these non-Suffolk boys were useless:
eg Crawford, Cooper, Burley, Beattie, Mills, Hunter, Wark, Muhren, Thijssen, Mariner, Brazil, Gates, Osman, Baxter, Nelson, Elsworthy, Stephenson, Moran, Leadbetter.
All Suffolk players useless, eg Butcher, Talbot, Dozzell, Dyer [Post edited 7 Mar 2023 15:07]
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 14:58 - Mar 7 with 2131 views | itfcjoe |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:27 - Mar 7 by soupytwist |
Do you think the difference between those two and Woolfenden is partly/wholly explained by the quality of the academies they've come through?
Leeds was only granted category one status in 2020 but I assume that Arsenal's always has been.
Clarke will make an interesting case study given the path he's taken and now being back where he started, would he be in the first team at this point had he stayed?
And yes, you have got to love him. |
I wouldn't have thought so - Woolfie was with us all the way through whereas Leif Davis ended up at Morecambe and did his scholarship there which is a much lower level - he was signed by Leeds at 18 when he completed his scholarship at Morecambe so was never in Leeds academy - was a signing for their U23s at the time
Clarke an interesting journey, no doubt going to Arsenal a massive help for him because it allowed him to get better loan spells lined up and to be pushed on more than he would have been here.
His time as a pro coincided with us being in doldrums so likely he wouldn't have got the same opportunities and hard for a young player to break through when the club not in a stable position | |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 15:00 - Mar 7 with 2123 views | itfcjoe |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 11:58 - Mar 7 by Garv |
Was he one that lived in Chambo's shed for a while? |
No, he left at 14 or 15 - I think it has only been young professionals that have lived there, i.e. not players still in the U18s squad who are in proper digs sorted by the club, but those who are 18/19/20 after they've signed pro contracts and no longer have digs | |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 15:01 - Mar 7 with 2119 views | itfcjoe |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 14:49 - Mar 7 by solemio |
Yes, all these non-Suffolk boys were useless:
eg Crawford, Cooper, Burley, Beattie, Mills, Hunter, Wark, Muhren, Thijssen, Mariner, Brazil, Gates, Osman, Baxter, Nelson, Elsworthy, Stephenson, Moran, Leadbetter.
All Suffolk players useless, eg Butcher, Talbot, Dozzell, Dyer [Post edited 7 Mar 2023 15:07]
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Am I not allowed to have a preference for liking Ipswich/Suffolk boys to be in the team representing the Town/County? | |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 15:10 - Mar 7 with 2040 views | solemio |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 15:01 - Mar 7 by itfcjoe |
Am I not allowed to have a preference for liking Ipswich/Suffolk boys to be in the team representing the Town/County? |
You are allowed - and I agree with you. I'm just in facetious mood. | | | |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 15:19 - Mar 7 with 1991 views | itfcjoe |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 15:10 - Mar 7 by solemio |
You are allowed - and I agree with you. I'm just in facetious mood. |
I think a lot of those players mentioned became honorary Suffolk boys by making the county their home and staying here long after they played for Town | |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 15:32 - Mar 7 with 1896 views | FromReuserWithLove |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 15:19 - Mar 7 by itfcjoe |
I think a lot of those players mentioned became honorary Suffolk boys by making the county their home and staying here long after they played for Town |
I agree with you Joe, Clarke seems the full package. Talented, a Suffolk lad, a Town supporter and most importantly, a fully dedicated and serious professional. The values he picked up at a giant club like Arsenal is probably worth the transfer fee we've paid. The way the starts have aligned for him is incredible as there is simply no club or manager better suited for the next stage of his development and career. |  | | |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 17:30 - Mar 7 with 1702 views | NthQldITFC |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 10:30 - Mar 7 by TRUE_BLUE123 |
Seems a great lad. Really articulate as well enjoyed the interviews I've seen from him. That relationship with Wes is crucial and seems to be improving, albeit against very very poor defensive teams.
However, someone has to be boring. Full time fist pumps, not for me. |
I don't know - the passion you feel winning a game of football, and the additional passion and massive connection with the crowd you feel as a local boy and former fan - I don't think I'd be able to resist fist pumping at full time. It's such a strong emotive force is footy, brings out the warrior in us.
On the Town in 5 videos, that full time crowd interaction is always accompanied by incoherent 'roaring' from the players, same as when scoring a goal. You can't control it. |  |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 17:40 - Mar 7 with 1669 views | Herbivore |
He looks to be a player with a lot of upside and the fact he's local and has that passion for the club is a massive bonus. Love it. |  |
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| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 09:14 - Mar 8 with 1393 views | soupytwist |
| You've got to love Harry Clarke don't you? on 14:58 - Mar 7 by itfcjoe |
I wouldn't have thought so - Woolfie was with us all the way through whereas Leif Davis ended up at Morecambe and did his scholarship there which is a much lower level - he was signed by Leeds at 18 when he completed his scholarship at Morecambe so was never in Leeds academy - was a signing for their U23s at the time
Clarke an interesting journey, no doubt going to Arsenal a massive help for him because it allowed him to get better loan spells lined up and to be pushed on more than he would have been here.
His time as a pro coincided with us being in doldrums so likely he wouldn't have got the same opportunities and hard for a young player to break through when the club not in a stable position |
I looked the three of them up on Wikipedia to compare ages and discovered that Davis had come through Morecambe's set up. He's done well.
Seeing what's happened to Clarke has made me more understanding of Ben Knight, was he a contemporary of Clarke's? Forgetting the financial benefits, he too should benefit like Clarke has and if he doesn't make it at City will have a good grounding to draw on.
But then we thought that of Alex Henshall who'd come through the City academy and ended up dropping through the leagues after leaving us. Difference was that City released him I guess. | | | |
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